98% Of Fully Vaccinated Test Positive For Covid

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  1. Pants

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    And if the virus is spread to vaccinated individuals, their likelihood of serious injury is much less than if not vaccinated. So, then, it isn't about the contagiousness, but the vulnerability of the population to whom it will be spread.
     
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    So would you be on board with public health announcements etc. informing the public obese individuals are often Covid super-spreaders? What about limiting access to certain venues based on BMI?

    Another question. How exactly do you address the health of society without first addressing the health of individuals? I think the silly notion “masks are to protect others, not yourself “ has given people the incorrect idea that societal health can be addressed while ignoring the individual.

    There need to be two things in existence for transmission of a seriously contagious virus—an infected individual shedding virons and an uninfected individual susceptible to infection. From an epidemiological perspective the best way to protect others is to ensure you do not become infected yourself. Our “public health” officials did not follow tenets of epidemiology or adhere to science when they led the public to believe you can/should protect others before yourself. It’s illogical from a virology perspective and from a philosophical perspective. But most Americans fell for it.

    Public health is important for sure. But from an epidemiological perspective based on science the individual’s health must come first. It’s simply impossible to have a healthy society without healthy individuals.
     
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    True. They are fed cheap processed rubbish. Vitamin supplements are needed because dietary vitamins are inadequate.
    Fibre supplements and aperients are given because the residents need to eat quickly and don’t have time (or teeth) to chew fresh fruit and veg.

    there’s often a constraint on the amount of assistance someone will be given to eat their meal, owing to minimal staffing levels.
    Sallyally- retired nurse.
     
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    There is no data that supports that fiction. Charts do not lie. Vaccines are useless.
     
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    You obviously didn't read a single word of what I posted. Stop wasting our time and bandwidth
     
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    The vaccines have killed people and caused many severe adverse reactions. Since vaccinated people also spread the virus and the vaccines are indeed dangerous in some, not even accounting for unknown long term consequences, people should have the right to choose what they want to do regarding their own health.

    The following link is from NPR, not Fox News:

    https://www.npr.org/sections/health...-drugs-had-safety-problems-after-fda-approval

    We don't really know what the long term effects of the vaccines are. Will they wind up being in the FDA's one third of mistakes? People have a right to be worried about it.
     
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    I have never argued that. I totally agree. What I am arguing is that vaccine mandates aren't necessary since vaccinated people spread the virus. Vaccine passports aren't necessary because vaccinated people spread the virus. Firing people from their jobs is not necessary because vaccinated people spread the virus. And, the vaccines have killed people, caused many severe adverse reactions, and we don't know the long term effects of the vaccines. Therefore, people shouldn't be forced to get vaccines because they have a legitimate fear. One third of all FDA approved drugs are later found to have safety issues. It's not unreasonable for people to worry about that. People should have the right to make their own health decisions.
     
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    Since the vaccinated also spread the virus and the vaccines have killed people, caused severe reactions to many, and we don't know the long term effects of the vaccines, people should make their own health decisions based on all of this information.
     
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    Which seems to be the subtle point of making folks misunderstand the efficacy of the shots. These aren't vaccines, and is why the CDC had to literally change their definition of what a vaccine is or is supposed to accomplish. This is fraud. Plain and simple. So, you get the shot, and magic happens, and the vaccinated are spreading the disease far and wide. And bureaucrats like Fauci are using those facts to continue to lock folks down, suspend the constitution, and enforce extra constitutional tyranny on the people.

    The sad truth is that this is a pattern for Fauci. The comparison to what Mengele did is becoming more and more apt when comparing the two.
     
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    How do you know this?
     
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    glasses of water kill people....
     
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    LOL. So, you are admitting that vaccines kill people? That's a start.
     
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    and glasses of water kill people.... but I still drink water as the risk is low

    as many as have taken the vaccine without issues, it's been shown to be very safe and effective
     
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    What we've learned in these last 2 years, though it is suppressed and never mentioned by MSM, is that the virus itself is about as dangerous as the flu virus.

    What kills some individuals is the spike protein.

    The dirty little secret is (it's actually not a secret) is that the shots cause the body to produce the dangerous spike protein.

    Point being, the virus itself matters little, but causing the body to produce the spike protein is the weapon angle. Some become sick from what the spike protein does, and some die from it, like my friends Kim and Pete.
     
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    Close to 10,000 have died from the vaccines, just in the US alone. Tens of thousands, just in the US alone, have had very serious adverse reactions from the vaccines. I got the vaccine myself, and recently a booster, because I wanted to. People should not be forced to get a vaccine that has killed and has had many adverse reactions, especially when the vaccines do nothing to stop the spread. We live in free country, not Nazi Germany.
     
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    MEANWHILE : oopsy

    https://news.yahoo.com/scientists-mystified-wary-africa-avoids-074905034.html
    Scientists mystified, wary, as Africa
    avoids COVID disaster

    HARARE, Zimbabwe (AP) — At a busy market in a poor township outside Harare this week, Nyasha Ndou kept his mask in his pocket, as hundreds of other people, mostly unmasked, jostled to buy and sell fruit and vegetables displayed on wooden tables and plastic sheets. As in much of Zimbabwe, here the coronavirus is quickly being relegated to the past, as political rallies, concerts and home gatherings have returned.

    “COVID-19 is gone, when did you last hear of anyone who has died of COVID-19?” Ndou said. “The mask is to protect my pocket,” he said. “The police demand bribes so I lose money if I don’t move around with a mask.” Earlier this week, Zimbabwe recorded just 33 new COVID-19 cases and zero deaths, in line with a recent fall in the disease across the continent, where World Health Organization data show that infections have been dropping since July.
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