I just wanted to share a anecdote of something that happened to a family friend recently. She had a baby about six weeks ago. At the last office appointment before giving birth she told her doctor that she didn't want to have to have any more children and wanted her tubes tied when the arrives. His staff told her that she needed to have her husband's consent. She explained that she wasn't married and was no longer in a relationship with her baby's father. She was told that her father would have to consent. She is 29/30, has a job, owns her own house and has another child. Yet, she was denied the right to make choices about her own body unless she had a male's permission. ------------------ Conversely, back in the early days of the pandemic, China was doing anal swabs to test for COVID. Several of our male embassy workers complained and China stopped that type of testing due to the pushback. Why are a man's right to his body and medical choices advocated so aggressively but another US citizen, with the same civil rights, has her voice silenced about her rights to her body and medical choices?
This seems bizarre. I can understand that there are some doctors who would not be willing to do the procedure, but to say they would be willing to do the procedure but only with the consent of the biological father? It seems very strange to me. I can't even think of a reason why they might hold that position. Could it have been a Muslim doctor, perhaps?
Another friend emailed me when I sent her the above outrageous event. She's in Washington state. She told me that one of her neighbor's granddaughter is married with 5 children (in 5 years). She asked for a tubal ligation and was denied with them stating she was "too young". A couple of weeks later, her husband had a vasectomy. No medical panels. No spouse's permission needed. Just scheduled it and it happened. I can't think of his name and I'm too tired to search but I know there is at least one Trump-endorsed candidate running for office and he has publicly stated that women should not be allowed to vote.
No candidate would ever say anything like that if he/she had the slightest desire to be elected to anything. Its a ridiculous post... unless it was just said as a joke... and libs are way too up tight to ever understand a joke.
Oh that too... I was thinking more along the lines of any doctor in the United States telling a woman who is over the age of 18 that she has to have anyone's permission to do any of what's described in the op. If a person lodged a complaint, that doctor's license will be pulled so quick.
It is bizarre but it isn't at all uncommon. Until relatively recently, there were laws in many US states requiring this, a long hangover from times when women were essentially considered property of their father, or their husband when they married. While any serialisation procedure should be carefully considered, including discussion with any spouse or long-term partner in normal circumstances, the idea of requiring anyone else's formal consent is unconscionable. And, of course, the same attitudes are rarely, if even, applied when men seek a vasectomy. https://www.insider.com/a-woman-needed-husbands-consent-to-get-her-tubes-tied-2020-2
A spouse consent is not needed by law for voluntary sterilization. That how ever does not mean that there are not doctors that will not do it with out consent. Just one more person bitching over nothing. Simply go to a different doctor. My family doctor would not even entertain the idea of a vasectomy, hard core Catholic. Did I cry and moan about it no. Made an appointment to a different doctor. He how ever would not preform it with out written consent of my wife. So I got it and that was that. Not every doctor out there is a doctor for you, go find the doctor that works best for you. Faith based doctors or not for everyone.
And your proof of that is??? My it is soooooo easy to convince some that blue is green and liberals are running Paedophile rings out of non existent basements in Pizza shops
That does obviously sound like a double standard, but to be fair, a male vasectomy is easier to reverse than a female tubal ligation. I imagine the doctor might have been more concerned about the woman, and whether she might have future regrets. It's always possible, for example, she might later get divorced and then want to have a baby with a new husband. We also have to keep in mind that these doctors do not always know whether the facts the women are telling them are true. For all they know, the woman does not actually have any children and is married. They might be a little reluctant to do the procedure when they cannot verify the facts. Some women might just falsely tell the doctor they already have lots of children so the doctor will do the procedure without any questions. It can also be pointed out that, statistically, there will be more males who go without ever having been married or having children during their lifetimes than females. So a male choosing to not have children is going to be seen as a little bit more normal than if it were a woman. This can sort of enter into a complicated biological and sociological discussion. I think there's a lot of delicate subtleties and nuances to be considered in this discussion.
I could imagine a doctor advising a woman to talk it over with her husband because vasectomy is less risky. But I have a hard time believing this happened in the United States.
