A Mask Mandate is NOT a law

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  1. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    The bandanna breaks the force of the droplets, which can carry them well beyond 6 feet. The mask isn't meant to be absolutely effective but it's FAR better than nothing

    Like I say, I think everyone should get a monthly supply of N95 masks in the mail for free. Yes, that might cost billions, almost as much as a 3000 mile Wall on our Southern border
     
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    I've not heard yet of anyone saying anyone has to wear a mask at home, or outdoors, or even in their car.

    Kwitchurbitchin, wear it in a store or business and be thankful that you still can.
     
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    You only exhale 'droplets' when you cough or sneeze. Normal breathing results in vapor being released, not droplets. I cough or sneeze into the crook of my arm whether there is a plandemic afoot or not, which is 100X more effective at stopping 'droplets' than a bandana or a mask I've been wearing all day which has been inundated with whatever I've been breathing, and the forceful pressure of a cough or sneeze uncovered is just going to send a cloud of whatever is on the mask off the mask at the same speed as the air came out of my mouth, because thats how pressure works. The vapor released by normal breathing is too small to be meaningfully stopped by any normal clothing fabric.

    Your precious masks don't do anything, and the people telling you they do are full of it.

    N95 masks probly would help somewhat, so long as they're not the ones with the exhalation valve.

    So riddle me this- why do all the mandates require simply a 'face covering' instead of an N95 mask without an exhalation valve?
     
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    Not that you'll care but...

    https://www.ucsf.edu/news/2020/06/4...s-heres-science-behind-how-face-masks-prevent
     
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    Nonsense. We spew droplets when we TALK
     
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    "If this kinda intrusive insanity spreads,
    they'll soon be takin' away mah freedom
    to strut around in public without pants!"
     
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    A mask is an ancient idea, and I don't believe there is any science at all to it, but common sense tells you that a mask or face covering has at least some value as a contagion barrier.

    And Mama said something is better than nothing. So I'm going with Mama and common sense. I don't give a damn what the government says.
     
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    An overwhelming consensus of public health experts agree that the evidence is clear that masks can help prevent the spread of COVID-19.

    For hardcore ideologues who eschew science,

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    "I’m a believer in masks.
    I think masks are good!”

    Would you become pissy because your favorite fireworks store told you that you had to leave your olympic torch outside?
     
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    An overwhelming consensus of public health experts may agree that the evidence is clear that CERTAIN masks designed to help prevent the spread of disease can help prevent the spread of COVID-19, but no one has done any studies on the face coverings made of random, unknown fabrics that most people are using as masks.
     
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    No. They agree that ANY face covering helps reduce the spread. If you disagree wear a better face covering

    This isn't tough stuff.
     
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    No one has done any studies on the face coverings made of random, unknown fabrics that most people are using as masks. A consensus of agreement based on pure assumption and then made into law is just plain ridiculous.
     
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    A mandate comes with a fine if not followed. That's the difference. How many $100 fines is a person willing to pay just for the sake of 'standing his ground' being stupid? This is one big failing of democracy, it allows idiots to jeopardize the health and well-being of others.
     
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    Yes you will be called to appear in court for not paying a fine and if you fail to appear you will be breaking the law. Depending on the jurisdiction, failing to appear can be a misdemeanor or felony. The individual can also face contempt of court charges. This may result in penalties such as jail time and/ or fines. How many 'no-mask' idiots are going to be willing to face jail time for not wearing a mask and spending that jail time with prisoners infected with Covid-19?
     
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    What is your source for your claim that most people are using random unknown fabrics as face coverings?

    What is known concerning the efficacy of face masks can be found here.
     
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    That can be agreed upon, but that business as a result, has to agree it’s going g to lose business.
     
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    Having morals and thinking for yourself, instead of having the government do it for you, is considered an act of “being stupid?” Again, it’s becoming glaringly apparent to me we are putting too much faith in masks.
     
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    When this is all over, one will be able to separate the free thinkers from the sheep.
     
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    Just about everyone in the entire world disagrees. How does it feel being in the minority? Do you imagine yourself to be a valiant crusader for a cause maybe or are you just another direly unformed people that are playing your little game of faux ignorance because you think it makes you 'special' and 'individual'?

    There's just no better proof of someone's morals when they make the small sacrifice of wearing a mask for other people, not only themselves.
     
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    This is a simple solution. Those who want to wear the mask, wear the mask but they decided to take it upon themselves to force beliefs unto others. People who are afraid of the virus can also choose to stay home.

    But god forbid I run an errand without a mask.
     
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    You will definitely be counted in the herd.
     
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    Look around. People are wearing bandanas and neck scarves and knittings and things they cut out of T-shirt sleeves or bought from craft hobbiests online. None of which are included in your link.

    Most people I see are wearing stuff like this.

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    Both of these state in their description that they are not medical grade. But they comply with the BS mandate.

    Any 'consensus' that these face coverings prevent anything (aside from a potential fine, of course) is speculation and assumption and not scientific at all.
     
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    Do you think those people disagree, or do you think they feel obligated to wear a mask, at the expense of thinking for themselves? The amount of people I have seen mask-less before tyrants started scaring people with fines and crimes tells me I’m not in a minority. I’m willing to fight for what I believe, and it’s not ignorance.

    It’s ones free will to think and defend for himself. Those that think, “Oh, there’s a mandate in place, better wear a mask!” either are too afraid to stand up for themselves, or never were capable of doing so in the first place.

    A pandemic does not strip one of that free will.
     
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    You have it backwards. If I just went along with the mandate, then I would be in the herd.
     

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