A Mask Mandate is NOT a law

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  1. FatBack

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    This, while democrat "leaders" are releasing droves of inmates, nationwide.
     
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    You have no surveys that you can cite, apparently limit your impression to personal observation in your area, and have no way of knowing when PM 2.5 filters are fitted inside the masks. One benefit of wearing any face mask is that it prevents unconscious touching of one's face, a behavior that is a common means of disease transmission. https://www.ajicjournal.org/article/S0196-6553(14)01281-4/fulltext
     
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    Absolute false equivalency.
     
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    It should be noted anti-maskers do not seem to mind requirements for shoes and shirts in stores and restaurants. Nor do they much seem to mind anymore that you cannot simply light up a cigarette anyplace you choose or break out a bottle of booze for a quick snort, or that they must wear a seatbelt when they get behind the wheel. Maybe, over time, they simply have become accustomed to those rules. Not so with wearing masks to help slow the spread of coronavirus. The mere suggestion sends them into a chest-thumping tizzy.
    https://www.adn.com/opinions/2020/07/10/theres-no-question-anti-maskers-are-dead-wrong/
     
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    If you get the coronavius, you will probably go a week or two without even knowing it. And some people think they have a mild cold and never figure out they have the coronavirus. Research is finding that infected tiny water droplets from coughing, sneezing, and talking can remain suspended in the air and infect other people in indoor environments. Wearing a mask can reduce the number of these suspended droplets and the risk of infecting others. If you have a good mask, it can even reduce the risk of you getting infected. If you infect an older or elderly person, they may need medical attention, and could even die. Wearing a mask is a less economically damaging way of reducing the spread of covid and is preferable to harsher lockdown and quarantine measures that would be needed if mask wearing isn't properly observed. Wear a mask and observe social distancing.
     
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    Well, I would say the effect of an individual business losing business would be somewhat mitigated by the fact that all businesses are being forced to do the same thing. The choice of the consumer is not between different businesses, but between giving their business or not giving their business.
     
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    Oh yeah that's right, you're so special that you would risk causing someone else to die. Sort of selfish just to puff out your chest and say 'I am not a sheep!'
     
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    No it's not. Think about the insanity...release criminals because...covid....lock people up for not wearing a mask and paying a fine because...covid.
     
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    The majority of those prisoners released were being held on non-violent charges or were deemed to pose no immediate threat to society if released. Every prisoner that was released was tested for Covid-19 before release. Yes, it's a false equivalency to compare those prisoners released with millions and millions of Americans not wearing facial masks, or throngs of teenagers having Covid parties. And yes, if a dangerous man points a gun at me threatening my life, he should be in prison. If a person that has covid-19 whether they know they have it or not, doesn't wear a mask knowing that possibility exists, and that will threaten my life, absolutely that person should be locked up.
     
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    May you never be elected to so much as the local dog catcher.
     
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    I’m not claiming I’m special. I’m saying I don’t need the governors to tell me how to live my life, because I can think for myself. Remember, more have recovered than died from this virus, so “risking someone else’s life” is likely a trip to the hospital at best.
     
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    I’d be willing to bet a lot of free thinking people like myself that shopped at Walmart are now going to opting for the online grocery service.
     
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    May you never get within six feet of me or anyone in my family.
     
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    Again, a seatbelt and a mask is an apples to oranges comparison. I’ve explained this in detail before. They are not on the same playing field.

    Shoes and shirts are stylish and what it looks like is you’re asking us to confirm to a new normal. That is a screwed up way of thinking.
     
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    The reckless crackpot ideologues are being begged to conduct themselves in a patriotic, socially-responsible manner:

    Surgeon General Jerome Adams on Monday begged Fox News viewers to "do the right thing" and wear masks in public as America struggles to contain the coronavirus... during his appearance on the network's popular morning show "Fox & Friends," telling viewers this routine action is the nation's best hope at controlling the virus.

    "It relies on the individual people of America doing the right thing, and that's why I’m pleading with your viewers, I’m begging you: Please understand that we are not trying to take away your freedoms when we say wear a face covering,” Dr. Adams said...

    If all Americans wore masks while outside and maintained social distancing, the virus could be controlled within two months, Dr. Adams said.

    https://news.yahoo.com/surgeon-general-begs-fox-news-153115683.html
     
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    I'd rather a good six miles, at least. 6 states would be better.
     
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    The lockdown isn’t necessary just like mask ma dates aren’t necessary. This is where the US is best advised to listen to Sweden. The people most at risk stay quarantined, and the people with no conditions continue about with their normal lives. No need for overreach like mandates, shutdowns, etc
    Leave it to the citizens to mitigate the spread, not the government.

    Did we shutdown during H1N1? No. And that was a pretty bad flu, I don’t remember people trying to shove masks on peoples faces. Zika? Not much panic there. Countries didn’t freak out over Ebola either. The Hong Kong flu killed more people than Covid has globally. At some point, even those enlisted in the mask police have to admit we are becoming our own hypochondriacs.
     
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    If you are looking for the culprit re:WWll look to France. The crippling reparations demanded by the French had much more of the "root of WWll" about it than any actions the US took.

    If you feel that wearing a mask as mandated infringes on your right not to wear one and you are infected whether symptomatic or not recklessly infecting other people, that is their sacrifice to protect your rights. But you damn well know that because you are not stupid. Everything you regard as a right, given exigent circumstances, can be temporarily suspended. This also you know because, again, you are not stupid.
     
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    Of course you have the right to be wrong. And to suffer the consequences.
     
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    Dude..if you think bandanas or home made masks don't do enough...GET A BETTER MASK.

    Stop whining
     
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    You're fighting for the right to infect others if you get the virus?

    YOU are exactly the kind of person who is dangerous to society...because since you don't want to wear a mask you most likely associate with others who do not as well...and THAT is the group that is passing the virus back and forth
     
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    Thats not 'protecting my rights', thats them failing to protect themselves by staying away from potentially infected strangers.
     
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    Why? Bandanas are more comfortable. Thats why people wear them instead. The point is they are useless for preventing infection, but still in compliance with the mask mandate. Which makes the mask mandate BS.

    Its like tying yourself to your carseat with some string counting as 'wearing a seatbelt'. Whats the friggin point of mandating it if compliance with the mandate can be entirely symbolic and nonfunctional?
     
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    Do you revel in being wrong? Will this matter to you?
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