Hi guys. As I keep noticing here some of the conservative forumers are highly doubtful about Turkey. They believe that Turkey has turned into somewhat an Islamic state thus can't be trusted. I am not going to discuss why those people think this way. Let's assume that what they told us true. Turkey was indeed bad. I would just like to know what the conservative politicans are going to do when they come to power . I don't want your personal opinions or any article on the net written by some retarded rednecks. I just want to know what the conservative politicans promise you to do regarding Turkey. What's their policy on Turkey. Seriously. So, please enlighten me.
Probably and most likely nothing. Why should the answer be any different lol. Turkey is mostly Islamic anyways I believe...I knew two guys who we're staying in the US temporarily (they we're doing a foreign exchange program with the company I worked for, had travel visas) from Turkey a few years back, learned some very interesting things from them, still can't pronounce their names (fail on my part). Being from Turkey you'd have to enlighten me whether this is true or not, I'm afraid I don't know much about Turkey.
There are four traditional schools of thought in American foreign policy. The conservative movement finds three of these schools present, i.e., the Realist approach, Neo-Conservatism, and Isolationism. Neo-Conservatism has been discredited. Realism is on the defensive. Isolationism is ascendant. The next conservative administration will be under compelling pressure to adopt a neo-isolationist approach to foreign policy. The approach towards Turkey would be the same as the approach to most other countries, i.e., normal trade, appropriate and limited diplomatic relations, no military to military contact, no treaty relationships, but weapons are for sale if Turkey can put cash on the barrelhead.
So that means the conservative polticians don't have any policy on recognizing the Armenian genocide, the Cyprus issue, the Kurdish question, the problems with Greece, and Islamist Turkey being a NATO member et cetera. So Albert's opinion about Turkey has nothing to do with the conservative politicans' policies. Cool. Good to know.
eligious groups according to estimates:[5][13] * Muslim - 96.83% (80-85% Sunni, 15-20% Alevi) * Christian - 0.13% (60% Armenian Orthodox, 20% Syrian Orthodox, 10% Protestant, 8% Chaldean Catholic, 2% Greek Orthodox) * Jewish - 0.03% (96% Sephardi, 4% Ashkenazi) * Bahá'í Faith - 0.01% * Atheist - 3% The vast majority of the present-day Turkish people are Muslim and the most popular sect is the Hanafite school of Sunni Islam, which was officially espoused by the Ottoman Empire; according to the KONDA Research and Consultancy survey carried out throughout Turkey on 2007[14]: * 40.8% defined themselves as "a religious person who strives to fulfill religious obligations" (Religious) * 42.3 % defined themselves as ""a believer who does not fulfill religious obligations" (Not religious). * 2.5% defined themselves as "a fully devout person fulfilling all religious obligations" (Fully devout). * 10.3% defined themselves as "someone who does not believe in religious obligations" (Non-believer). * 4.1%' defined themselves as "someone with no religious conviction" (Atheist). WIKI
Turkey is Muslim-majority, but heavily Westernized. If they want to join NATO or the EU, I have no problem with that.
I didn't want to offend anyone in this forum though. Sorry for the trouble. I can't edit my post. Though I don't want an opinion. I would just like to see the policy of conservatives towards Turkey. Not an opinion of a conservative individual. Thanks for the statistics. Again, having a state religion is one thing, having a majority Muslim population is another. The Turkish state has no religion and no intention to glorify Islam and work for Islamism. The state is secular. That's what I am talking about. The Turkish people are majority Muslim. No argument there. Are you aware that Turkey has been a NATO member since 1952? So that's all about your imagination right?
You have already answered my original question though. Sorry for the unclearity, what I meant is: It seems that the US policy towards Turkey wouldn't change so much If the conservatives came to power.
Ofcourse I didn't want to slur Caucasian Protestan Christians. I thought "Rednecks" standed for uneducated southerns. But anyway, that's not the point. Secoundly, you can provide facts on an opinion forum. I just want to learn the policy of the conservative party towards Turkey - If any. Something like this: http://www.conservatives.com/Policy/Where_we_stand/Foreign_Affairs.aspx
Turkey is in the process of becoming Islamist domestically and Neo-Ottoman in foreign affairs, subject to the dictates of its Saudi financiers. American policy should be to reduce contact with Turkey. Close Incirlik and the other bases, bring all US forces home along with their equipment.
Albert, I still respect your opinion. You seem to read articles about Turkey. But your conclusion is totally wrong (Hereby the writers of the articles). Though I am not going to discuss it here, because it's slightly off topic as I said what conservative people in the US think about Turkey is another thing, as well as important. But not here. For instance the Turkish conservatives think many things about the US, but those opinions don't represent AKP's official policy towards the US at all.
Saudi Arabia isn't funding Turkey.. They have collaborated on advice to Pakistan and Hezbollah. I am pretty optimistic about Turkey.
Saudi Arabia's multi-billioner Islamist warlords funding AKP is a claim by Kemalists in Turkey. Which is a total BS. Some of the International media use the Kemalist propaganda to portray Turkey as a totalitarian Islamist state. Which is again BS. Turkey has a very strong opponent party - Kemalist CHP, and also a Kurdish party BDP, and many other political parties. As for the fund from Saudi Arabia, Erdogan is trying to establish an economical tie between Turkey and the Arab world, because up to recent years, Turkey had totally ignored the Arab world. But after Erdogan's effort, some Saudis invested in Turkey. But the volume of economical relations between Turkey and Saudi Arabia is nothing compared to that of between Saudi Arabia and the US. The Turkish economy relies on France and Germany as far as exports and imports go.
Saudi Arabia is just not that strong. Compare the economies of the both parties. And then examine the economical relations between the EU and Turkey.
My underlying point is that Saudi Arabia has purchased influence with Turkey at the same time Turkey suddenly took a hard line on Syria consistent with the new anti-Assad/Alawaite position of the Saudis.
This is simply not true. The whole West took an aggressive position against Syria at the same time. Look at this: http://www.consilium.europa.eu/uedocs/cms_data/docs/pressdata/EN/foraff/124495.pdf The EU goes even further.
I'm sure most Conservatives think about people like Warren Buffet who is a billionaire and pay less tax them them. If they did, then boy it would be different! http://infrequentrant.blogspot.com/2011/09/is-obama-crazy.html
