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  1. jcarlilesiu

    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Is this post from from 2016? Because we were told all the bad things that would happen then, and dud. Nothing.

    Trying to create panic to push your partisan agenda us really desperation.

    I understand though, it's all the left has left.
     
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    • Trump's Policy "Magic Wand" Boosts Manufacturing Jobs 399% In First 26 Months Over Obama's Last 26 https://www.forbes.com/.../trumps-policy-magic-wand.../...

    • There are more jobs than people out of work, something the American economy has never experienced before
      https://www.cnbc.com/.../there-are-more-jobs-than-people...

      Pay gains under Trump best since the Great Recession
      www.cnbc.com › 2018/01/31 › pay-gains-under-trump...

      Jan 31, 2018 - Workers looking for fatter paychecks had their best year in 2017 since before the financial crisis, according to a government report Wednesday.

      Overlooked on economy? Rising paychecks for blue-collar ...
      www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2019/08/14/blue...
      Aug 14, 2019 • Blue-collar path to solid paycheck. And as blue-collar workers have seen their wallets thicken, highly educated white-collar workers’ wages have grown more modestly.

      • Pay
      gains under Trump best since the Great Recession
      www.cnbc.com/2018/01/31/pay-gains-under-trumps...
      Jan 31, 2018 • President Donald Trump's first full year in office saw gains that easily outdistanced any year for his predecessor, Barack Obama, whose best showing was the 2.2 percent increases in 2016 and 2014. Six of Obama's eight years in office saw gains of 2 percent or less.
    Did Donald Trump Sign a $1.8 Billion Autism-Services Bill?
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    Claim: In September 2019, U.S. President Donald Trump signed into law a bill that provides $1.8 billion in funding for autism research and services.
    Claimed by: ABC News
    Fact check by Snopes: True

    He started child care funding for single mothers, Work and the Cost of Child Care | The White House
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    Feb 25, 2019 - Policies that reduce this cost of child care could bring more Americans into ... But by 1998, labor force participation among single mothers grew to 77 percent, ... In 2018, President Trump signed into law a $2.4 billion funding ... and Head Start and pre-school programs provide care for young children as well.

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    He started a new job training program for those without skills, Trump and private sector come together for job training ...
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    Jul 20, 2018 - Job training got a boost as President Donald Trump ushered in a new ... The council will oversee current government training programs and ... high school graduates to mid- and late-career workers for jobs in the new economy. ... Previous articleChicago's workforce development solution: It starts with a job.

    Trump Administration Proposes New Type of Apprenticeship ...
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    Jun 24, 2019 - The Labor Department released its proposal to create a new type of ... Federal Job-Training Programs 'Largely Ineffective,' Trump Advisers


    Five smart ways Trump has improved our health care system (nypost.com)



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    How many miles of border wall did Donald Trump build?
    WEBAug 9, 2023 · The Customs and Border Protection report says the Trump administration built 52 miles of new primary wall systems and 33 miles of new secondary wall systems where there were none before. (This after Pelosi said not one dine to build the wall.)

    Trump's Policy "Magic Wand" Boosts Manufacturing Jobs 399% In First 26 Months Over Obama's Last 26 https://www.forbes.com/.../trumps-policy-magic-wand.../...

    FULL President Trump 2019 Prison Reform Summit and First ...
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    Apr 14, 2019 · Like him or not, President Trump is doing something with prison reform that no other presidents have done. Others promised reform, but never did a thing. The First Step Act. To give them a new lease on life.

    Trump signs bill giving terminally ill patients 'right to try ...
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    President Trump on Wednesday signed legislation into law that gives patients the “right to try” experimental drugs, to give them a chance to live, or at least extend their life, cementing a major policy priority for the White House. ... Trump signs bill ..

    Trump signs ‘Buy American, Hire American’ executive order ...
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    President Trump signed his "Buy American, Hire American" executive order at a factory in Kenosha, Wis., on April 18. He railed on NAFTA and the outsourcing of U.S. Jobs and promised to "make sure

    What the massive US military budget pays for
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    When President Donald Trump signed the $1.3 trillion omnibus spending bill on Friday, he approved what his administration calls the largest military budget in US history, $700 billion.( to fix the mess Obama left the military in.
    Grounded: Nearly two-thirds of US Navy’s strike fighters ...
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    Overhauls — "availabilities" in Navy parlance — are being canceled or deferred, and when ships do come in they need longer to refit. Every carrier overall for at least three years has run long, and some submarines are out of service for prolonged periods, as much as four years or more. One submarine, the Boise, has lost its diving certification …

    70% of Marine Aircraft Can't Fly - …
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    Out of 276 F/A-18 Hornet strike fighters in the Marine Corps inventory, only about 30% are ready to fly, according to statistics provided by the Corps. Similarly, only 42 of 147 heavy-lift CH-53E Super Stallion helicopters are airworthy.

    Real change finally comes to the VA, thanks to Trump
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    Real change finally comes to the VA, thanks to Trump. By ... The VA Mission Act is designed to create effective fixes for these ... This bill does real good. House Veterans Affairs Committee ...

    Trump Sworn In: Corrupt VA Employees Are Finally Fired
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    Leftist America realizes that Trump doesn't mince words. While Obama promised to fix the VA and did nothing, Trump fires VA employees...

    Scoop: Trump finally losing patience with VA Sec. …
    https://www.axios.com/trump-losing-patience-with-va......
    Scoop: Trump finally losing patience with VA Sec. Shulkin. Shulkin (L) at a cabinet meeting last week. Photo: Michael Reynolds-Pool/Getty Images. It took a few weeks to land on his radar, but President Trump now views Veterans Affairs Sec. David Shulkin as a major problem. Trump has been telling associates he doesn't know what's …
     
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    Sorry, I'm not going to engage in right-wing propaganda fantasies. I know what I saw with my own two eyes and have read more than enough of what happened that day. Repeating these manufactured fabrications may do something for you, but not for me.
     
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    Trump's FDA approving wave of generic drugs to lower drug prices ...
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    Oct 23, 2018 - It approved 90% more generic drugs in fiscal year 2018 than 2014. ... One of the Trump administration's most concrete efforts to lower drug prices

    Donald Trump Signs Executive Order $100 Billion To ...
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    Dec 20, 2018 · Donald Trump Signs Executive Order $100 Billion To Revitalize Low Income Urban Communities, bringing back jobs and making them safer.

    Trump Signs Bill to Clean Millions of Tons of Garbage from World's Oceans

    READ MORE: https://neonnettle.com/.../5317-tr...llions-of-tons-of...
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    https://www.atr.org/thanks-trump-median-household-income-highest-level-ever
    Real median household income has grown by $4,144 or 6.8 percent since President Trump took office, according to an op-ed published in the Wall Street Journal.

    This data is based on a report released by Sentier Research analyzing the Census Bureau’s monthly Current Population Survey.
    As noted in the op-ed, authored by Stephen Moore, real median household income is at an all-time high:
    “Real median household income—the amount earned by those in the very middle—hit $65,084 (in 2019 dollars) for the 12 months ending in July. That’s the highest level ever and a gain of $4,144, or 6.8%, since Mr. Trump took office. By comparison, during 7½ years under President Obama—starting from the end of the recession in June 2009 through January 2017—the median household income rose by only about $1,000.”
    The below chart highlights the strong Trump wage growth.

    Economy & Politics: Income Gap Grows under Trump, Obama — but ...
    www.nationalreview.com/2019/10/income-gap-growth...
    Indeed, in a bit more than half of his term, Trump’s $5,003 mountain of growth in median household income is 346 percent higher than Bush-Obama’s $1,444 molehill of marginal middle-class earnings. https://www.nationalreview.com/.../income-gap-growth.../
     
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    Prove it.
     
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    Haters are gonna hate, so hate your little heart away.
     
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    Marine1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You only saw what the bias news let you see. Fox News ran many hours of film from Capital cameras that showed what the people did after entering the Capital. Videos that the bias news didn't show. They like to trash Fox so you won't watch it and see what they won't tell or show you.
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Were you out of the country from 2017 to 2021?
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Four years after he won the Midwest by vowing to revitalize the U.S. manufacturing workforce, President Donald Trump is campaigning for reelection on a job well done. The numbers tell a different story.

    Trump’s anti-trade agenda and a pandemic-induced recession have combined to shutter factories and accelerate decades-old trends toward automation, eliminating hundreds of thousands of manufacturing jobs, many for good, including in the Rust Belt states he needs to win in November.

    https://www.politico.com/news/2020/09/16/trump-manufacturing-jobs-record-415588

    Donald Trump: In manufacturing, "I brought back 700,000 jobs. (Obama and Biden) brought back nothing."

    PolitiFact’s ruling: False


    Here’s why: Reaching back to one of his core agenda issues from the 2016 presidential campaign, President Donald Trump touted his record on manufacturing jobs during the first presidential debate in Cleveland.

    Referring to the manufacturing sector, Trump said, "I brought back 700,000 jobs." By contrast, Trump said, under President Barack Obama and Vice President Joe Biden, Trump’s 2020 opponent, "They brought back nothing."

    Trump is exaggerating gains on his own watch, even before the coronavirus pandemic, and he’s offering a misleading assessment of what happened during the Obama administration.

    https://eu.statesman.com/story/news...ufacturing-job-gains-during-debate/114197350/

    While the Trump administration has claimed that the era of U.S. offshoring is “over,” the reality is that the United States has not begun to address the root causes of America’s growing trade deficits and the decline of American manufacturing. Decades of trade, currency, and tax policies that incentivized offshoring, combined with an utter failure to invest adequately in infrastructure and good jobs at home, have contributed to growing inequality and an eroding middle class.

    President Trump’s erratic, ego-driven, and inconsistent trade policies have not achieved any measurable progress, despite the newly combative rhetoric. On top of that, COVID-19—and the administration’s mismanagement of the crisis—has wiped out much of the last decade’s job gains in U.S. manufacturing.

    https://www.epi.org/publication/reshoring-manufacturing-jobs/
     
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    The claims of the left from 2016, the fear mongering came true?

    Not even close.

    But here we are, the left fear mongering again AFTER A being proven wrong the first time.

    Some of you need to start being more analytical and a bit less emotional.
     
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    I have no doubt Trump exaggerated his numbers of jobs his policies helped create and gave no credit to Obama and Biden. As I showed by the graft, the bias news reports on Trump were over 92% negative. They gave him no credit for anything.

    Off shoring is a big problem and so is automation. Another was the very bad trades America made down through the years which was one of the first things Trump tried to fix by renegotiating trade treaties and encouraging foreign factories to relocate in America. He also cut taxes to encourage companies to bring their factories and off shore money home.

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    Asked in 2016 if he would bring his billions in off shore billions home, he said no.( .Apple CEO Says Company Won't Bring Home Money Parked ...

    https://www.forbes.com/.../08/17/apple-ceo-says-company-wont...

    Aug 17, 2016 · Apple CEO Says Company Won't Bring Home Money Parked Overseas Until Tax Rates Are 'Fair'. Tech giant Apple is hoping that the United States' tolerance for pain is a little bit lower than mine. In an interview with The Washington Post last week, Apple CEO Tim Cook discussed his tenure at Apple and, not surprisingly,...

    But one year later after Trump's tax cuts


    Newscentermaine.com | Why Apple is bringing billions back home
    www.newscentermaine.com/article/news/nation-now/...
    A second corporate campus, an additional 20,000 workers and a $350 billion commitment. That's Apple's pledge to the U.S. As the tech giant announced a sweeping set of moves Wednesday to bring back billions of its offshore cash and spur economic growth. The plan also includes paying $38 billion in taxes.

    T.S.M.C. Is Set to Build a U.S. Chip Facility, a Win for Trump
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    May 14, 2020 — SAN FRANCISCO — Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company has agreed to build an advanced chip factory in the United States, in a response ...
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    This plant is built her in Arizona and the company is building another here.


    The agreement means South Korea will be forced to cut its steel exports to the U.S. by 30 percent of past three years' average, in exchange for becoming the first U.S. ally to receive an indefinite exemption on steel tariffs imposed by Trump.Mar 26, 2018

    U.S., South Korea revise trade deal, Korean steel faces quota


    Trump went after bad trades and he knew how vital our steel industry was. It helped us win WWII and our steel companies were going out of business at an alarming rate and he tried to fix that through new trade agreements and tariffs.







































     
  12. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I don't know specifically what claims you are referring to. Was the country better off for the 4 years Trump served in office? Unequivocally no.
     
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    Up till the virus hitting us and having 3/4 of our businesses shut down, hell yes.

    There are more jobs than people out of work, something the American economy has never experienced before

    https://www.cnbc.com/.../there-are-more-jobs-than-people...

    Pay gains under Trump best since the Great Recession
    www.cnbc.com › 2018/01/31 › pay-gains-under-trump...

    Jan 31, 2018 - Workers looking for fatter paychecks had their best year in 2017 since before the financial crisis, according to a government report Wednesday.

    Overlooked on economy? Rising paychecks for blue-collar ...
    www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2019/08/14/blue...
    Aug 14, 2019 • Blue-collar path to solid paycheck. And as blue-collar workers have seen their wallets thicken, highly educated white-collar workers’ wages have grown more modestly.

    • Pay
    gains under Trump best since the Great Recession
    www.cnbc.com/2018/01/31/pay-gains-under-trumps...
    Jan 31, 2018 • President Donald Trump's first full year in office saw gains that easily outdistanced any year for his predecessor, Barack Obama, whose best showing was the 2.2 percent increases in 2016 and 2014. Six of Obama's eight years in office saw gains of 2 percent or less.

    https://www.atr.org/thanks-trump-median-household-income-highest-level-ever

    Real median household income has grown by $4,144 or 6.8 percent since President Trump took office, according to an op-ed published in the Wall Street Journal.

    This data is based on a report released by Sentier Research analyzing the Census Bureau’s monthly Current Population Survey.
    As noted in the op-ed, authored by Stephen Moore, real median household income is at an all-time high:
    “Real median household income—the amount earned by those in the very middle—hit $65,084 (in 2019 dollars) for the 12 months ending in July. That’s the highest level ever and a gain of $4,144, or 6.8%, since Mr. Trump took office. By comparison, during 7½ years under President Obama—starting from the end of the recession in June 2009 through January 2017—the median household income rose by only about $1,000.”
    The below chart highlights the strong Trump wage growth.



    Economy & Politics: Income Gap Grows under Trump, Obama — but ...
    www.nationalreview.com/2019/10/income-gap-growth...
    Indeed, in a bit more than half of his term, Trump’s $5,003 mountain of growth in median household income is 346 percent higher than Bush-Obama’s $1,444 molehill of marginal middle-class earnings. https://www.nationalreview.com/.../income-gap-growth.../
     
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    I believe that number was based on a study conducted by the conservative Media Research Center. Making it questionable. However, there were so many negatives to report on I can see how the number might be accurate. His campaign began with lies about Obama's citizenship, followed by calls to Russia to find dirt on Hillary, followed by lies about the size of the inaugural crowd, followed by Mike Flynn being fired, followed by Comey being fired............get the picture?
     
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    Look beyond the economy juiced by a budget busting tax cut and a deregulatory regime that we paid a price for with respect to the environment.

    In justifying many of the rollbacks, the agencies said that previous administrations had overstepped their legal authority, imposing unnecessary and burdensome regulations that hurt business.

    “We have fulfilled President Trump’s promises to provide certainty for states, tribes, and local governments,” a spokeswoman for the E.P.A. said in a statement to The Times, adding that it was “delivering on President Trump’s commitment to return the agency to its core mission: Providing cleaner air, water and land to the American people.”

    But environmental groups and legal analysts said the rollbacks have not served that mission.

    All told, the Trump administration’s deregulatory actions were estimated to significantly increase greenhouse gas emissions over the next decade and lead to thousands of extra deaths from poor air quality each year.

    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/climate/trump-environment-rollbacks-list.html#:~:text=total rollbacks-,The Trump Administration Rolled Back More Than 100 Environmental,Here's the Full List.&text=Over four years, the Trump,water, wildlife and toxic chemicals.

    Then consider all the other negatives for the country. The ones that lead to the voters overwhelmingly rejecting his presidency. The divisiveness, the nod to despots and white supremacists, the corruption of the SC, ending the Iran nuclear agreement, botching the response to COVID, the incompetent people he surrounded himself with, the gutting of the State Dept, far too many to list.
     
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    Obama's economy busting regulations and tax hikes were killing America and American jobs. Most of all of Obama's 10 million jobs were in the low paying service industry. Which most had little to no benefits and were part time. We were heading to be a third world nation.

    Obama administration presses ahead ...
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    As the future Trump administration begins to take shape, the Obama White House is engaged in a frenzied, final effort to put in place as many new rules and regulations as time allows.

    20,642 New Regulations Added in the Obama Presidency
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    More than $22 billion per year in new regulatory costs were imposed on Americans last year, pushing the total burden for the Obama years to exceed $100 billion annually.

    Does the U.S. Have the Highest Corporate Tax Rates in the ...

    https://www.financialsense.com/cont.../matthew-kerkhoff/does...

    Proponents of this thesis will draw attention to the fact that the US has the highest corporate income tax rate in the industrialized world, currently at 39.1% (based on the 35% federal rate and the average rate levied by US states), see chart below. This high rate puts companies at a big disadvantage.



    Recovery Has Created Far More Low-Wage Jobs Than Better-Paid ...
    www.nytimes.com/2014/04/28/business/economy/...
    Apr 27, 2014 · Economy Recovery Has Created Far More Low-Wage Jobs Than Better-Paid Ones
    How good were the 10.9 million jobs under Obama?
    Money.CNN.com/2016/11/04/news/economy/jobs-under-obama/...
    Nov 03, 2016 · CNNMoney breaks down what kinds of jobs have been created and ... Almost all of the job gains under President Obama have been in so-called service jobs,

    The deep recession wiped out primarily high-wage and middle-wage jobs. Yet the strongest employment growth during the sluggish recovery has been in low-wage work, at places like strip malls and fast-food restaurants.

    In essence, the poor economy has replaced good jobs with bad ones. That is the conclusion of a new report from the National Employment Law Project, a research and advocacy group, analyzing employment trends four years into the recovery.

    “Fast food is driving the bulk of the job growth at the low end — the job gains there are absolutely phenomenal,” said Michael Evangelist, the report’s author. “If this is the reality — if these jobs are here to stay and are going to be making up a considerable part of the economy — the question is, how do we make them better?”

    The report shows that total employment has finally surpassed its pre-recession level. “The good news is we’re back to zero,” Mr. Evangelist said.

    But job losses and gains have been skewed. Higher-wage industries — like accounting and legal work — shed 3.6 million positions during the recession and have added only 2.6 million positions during the recovery. But lower-wage industries lost two million jobs, then added 3.8 million.
    HTTPS://www.nytimes.com/…/recovery-has-created-far-more-low…
    77 percent of 2013 jobs were part-time positions ...
    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/aug/2/part-timer-nation...
    Aug 02, 2013 · Fully 77 percent of positions added to the market in 2013 have been part-time, in contrast to the positive economic news making the media rounds, according to payroll reports released in recent weeks.
    "There are now 1.2 million fewer jobs in mid- and higher-wage industries than there were before the Great Recession, according to data from the National Employment Law Project. In contrast, there are 2.3 million more jobs in lower-wage sectors than before the recession," according to CNBC. Nor is there the hoped-for renaissance in American manufacturing. We have some 300,000 fewer manufacturing jobs since President Barack Obama took office and 1.5 million jobs below the pre-recession level.

    https://www.usnews.com/news/the-report/articles/2015/08/23/the-part-time-economic-recovery
     
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    Tell me Lee, how does America compete with record breaking regulations and tax hikes, mostly part time and service jobs that mostly don't pay benefits? Most of those jobs wouldn't support an individual, much less a family. We were heading to be a second class nation.
     
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    Statistically, by almost every metric... yes.

    But I'm sure you're one of those people that uses the pandemic to draw your conclusions.

    Care to name any metric pre-pandemic that was worse?
     

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