Aborting Jesus Christ!?

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  1. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Report you ? That would take away all the fun of watching your crucifixion .. on a cross of your own making friend.

    Who is the worthless RINO in the room .. the one who hates the founding principle ...the control freak who has no ability to make a valid argumen but wants to trample on liberty .. force religious beliefs on others through physical violence like the Islamists .. and other worthless pieces of human garbage of the same ilk.

    That wouldn't be you would it mate -- who is the whiny collectivist "aka" Liberal Socialist .. in the room .. trying to tar others with his failure

    Only a moron believes a human exists on the basis of "Potential" .. How stupid would that be .. and on that basis I am fine with the morning after pill .. so don't be tarring me with that brush either "princess" har har har.

    Who's the liberal collectivist tyrant RINO in the room .. .. whining on about responsibility for one's actions .. says the fellow who hides behind the heavy hand of the state ... get them to do the dirty work .. big hero .. big tough guy hiding in the corner.

    and the steaming pile continues ?! -- who is the one aborting God .. and why are you trying to tar me with your brush of Filth ... same thing you did in previous post .. trying to tar me with as a Liberal Collectivist RINO such as yourself....

    You the one claiming to speak for God .. blaspheming the name of the Most High .. the one with tyranical collectivist perspective. .. in the name of the Logos..

    You can keep that mantra to yourself mate .. I want no part of that ideology from the dark side.. demons in sheeps clothing.
     
  2. Injeun

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    American freedom and our rights in freedom are based on what you say is a fantasy, which is that there is one God from whom we all come. So if you are right, then no one in America, including women, have/has any God given rights to anything at all, especially equality, because we are all anything but the same.

    The legalization of abortion does more to endorse the promiscuous lifestyle of both men and women, than to ensure the rights of women. It has not only led to the abortions of millions of conceptions, but to an astronomical number of out of wedlock births, Fatherless homes, and an overabundance of crime sweeping thru our nation.

    So while freedom is a joyous right, it is at the same time a solemn obligation to live worthy of it and do the right thing.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No .. Wrong .. The liberty bestowed on us by the "Creator" does not come from your God from the Bible .. as that is the "Sky Daddy" being referred

    "The one God from whome we all come" - Which God is that I have asked you many times .. at which point you go running from the room screaming .. unable to come upwith the name of this God you worship... what Davies refer's to as the lie ..

    So prove the lie wrong .. tell us the name of this God from the OT Bible that you worship .. and from whome your Christ proceeds .. who is this Father fellow you claim is the "one God .. from whome we all come" .


    A steaming pile of nonsense on steroids .. but what has this to do with Jesus .. would would never have condoned legislation of abortion... ... so you are not a follower of Christ .. obviously

    Who is this God that you worship hates abortion ? Please tell is her name so we can all worship her .. or is it a boy .. or perhaps a hermaphropdite your God .. or perhaps it is nothing at all . a figment of your imagination....

    None of which the founders based our rights however . What is the name of this creator God that you worship ? .. the one you falsely claim bestowed liberty upon us.
     
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    Injeun Well-Known Member

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    According to our Declaration of Independence, that there is one creator from whom springs our lives, liberties, and equality, is self evident. Apparently, his name is not self evident as they didn't mention it.

    If you can't see that the legalizing of abortion goes more to endorse the promiscuous lifestyle of men and women than to ensure womens rights, then I can't fix that. In fact, broad scale abortion cheapens everything noble and coddles the decline of our people. You may not like what I say. But it needs saying. And it isn't new or foreign. It's what Americans used to hold in common, but have tossed aside for the love of corruption.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The DOI does not say the creator is one .. nor say anything about our lives springing from the creator .. but most importantly .. the Creator being referred to is not the God that you worship .. not the God of Abraham.

    and 2) criminalization of abortion is something Jesus would have abhored. If you wish to force your personal religious beliefs on others through physical violence like the Sharia loving Islamist that is one thing but, don't tar Jesus with your stink brush.
     
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    Giving birth is giving death. Whether or not to fertilize an egg is a decision about death. That is what fertile women decide every cycle. Pretending otherwise is just that, pretending. "Abortion" is the extension of the woman's choice, and logically should be left to the woman without torturing or penalizing her. Hypocritical protests from those who allow tax dollars to bomb babies do not change the basic facts.
     
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    I can read. It says what I said. If you disagree with our founding, you're about 250 years late to the party.

    You could be right. But Jesus also told the woman to quit whoring. Pretty sure that would include abortions. So like I said, legalizing abortion doesn't ensure womens rights. It endorses the promiscuous lifestyle of men and women which lead to it. It also vastly increases the number of out of wedlock births which result in Fatherless homes, and an increase of criminal behavior plaguing our nation. Abortion also cheapens the value of life, cheapens womanhood, Motherhood, Fatherhood, Marriage and family. Not to mention killing millions of children. So say what you will, but don't brag about it. BTW, all of our good laws which modify human behavior, are in harmony with Judeo/Christian values. That doesn't make us a theocracy. It makes us civilized.
     
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    The DOI doesn't say what you claim .. You are making things up that are simply not stated .. but regardless .. the part you are avoiding like the plague .. is that the "Creator" is not the God that you worship .. and in fact the term "Creator" was specifically chosen NOT to invoke the Christian God

    Your conflation of adultery with abortion is more made up fantasy ..and you misrepresent the passage using the term "whoring" which is something different from Adultery. .. so a big fail on numerous fronts on that one mate.

    Now tell me what the Name of your God is .. so I know which one to Worship .. The name of the Most High .. who Jesus calls "The Father" The one from whome the Spirit and Logos proceed .. according to the Creed .. understanding of which you are in desperate need .. in order to be freed from the seed .. of the dark side of the force young skywalker :alien::alien: :cynic::cynic: .. Who is your Father my young apprentice ? Search your feelings .. you know it to be true .. baby blue ..

    Sup Injeun - tell me true, tell me why, was Jesus Crucified .. was it for this that "Daddy Died" Roger Waters.

    The NAME of that God you worship .. which one is it ? or "What" is it .. if not the God of Abraham ..

    and why are you trying to abort the teachings of Jesus .. bastardize and transform - to fit into some spanky who box you got your God trapped in.

    Something must be real scary about this question .. you been avoiding post after post .. . yet talking on and on about this God as if we should all want to get to now it ..

    Which God are you talking about mate ? Is it Shiva ? No need to be afraid and ashamed of the God you Worship .. lest it be 'that one" .. is that why you are afraid and/or ashamed ? is it "That One" the deceiver ... that Trickster God ?

    Is it Inanna .. Ishtar .. Asherah .. the Goddess of Heaven that you worship .. is that why you are so unwilling to tell us .. but you refer to God as He .. so didn't think it was one of these...

    I think you should stop talking about God if you are unwilling to tell us which God you are talking about .. it is quite pointless .. as one knows naught which God you are referring.

    Or is it the God with no name .. or the God who named himself "no name" YAHU of the Shasu ?
     
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    The DOI is clear if you look at it. As for abortion, all immorality, promiscuity, whorishness, adultery and abortion to that end is sin in whole. And as for the name of God, it doesn't matter. What matters is that in all that we do, say, and imagine, we should do to his pleasure honor and glory because he is the giver of our lives and freedom. It is to give love in return for the love he has first given, because we are his plantings, and our fruits belong to him. And though the choice is ours, our choices do not divest God of his judgment seat or his place in the matter anymore than an eclipse of the sun causes the sun to cease to be. We are accountable. But more importantly, we live because God lives. He is the God of our youth, who showered us all the days of our youth with his mercy. But we have gone away into forbidden paths. Like Isaiah 53:6 said, " All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the Lord hath laid on him(Jesus Christ) the iniquity of us all."

    So believe, say or worship what you will G.O. But I will align myself with Joshua 24:15 who said, "“And if it seem evil unto you to serve the LORD, choose you this day whom ye will serve; whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the flood, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land ye dwell: but as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD.”
     
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    Indeed the DOI is clear ... the "Creator" being referred to is not the God you worship.

    Your fallacious conflation of abortion and promiscuity with adultery was already addressed .... The passage is about Adultery .. which has nothing to do with abortion or promiscuity with the exception of that involving a married woman bedding down another man.

    You are falsely misrepresenting scripture - and doing so in a typical way .. trying to bend the Bible into the Puritain Box .. happens often a fairly common area of "Artistic Licence" - the translators desperate to bend scripture into dogma. everytime you see the word "Fornication" in the KJV for example .. better think twice .. as most often the passage doesn't mean that.

    so one could be forgiven for getting one of those passages wrong .. the woman caught in adultery on the othe rhand .. you can't .. just a blatent fallacy
     
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    I wrote this on my profile as well, as I do many of my ideas, that don't make it into posts on this site.


    Choice. Democrat politicians respect choice so much in America, that if you chose to be a republican, they disrespect you by calling you a racist, or sexist, or other names, and try and disrespect you, and dishonor you, and trying and ruin your life. That doesn't sound like that much of a choice to me. Because you either chose to vote democrat, or they will destroy you!!! You either chose their way, or no way at all. I thought that choice, meant more than 1 option? Maybe that's just me though? Like if a woman choses an abortion they're happy!!! yay! they murdered another innocent baby! But if a woman, (especially black women), don't chose to have an abortion, then wow! that's just whatever! and the fact that republican politicians don't point this out more often, simply shows, how corrupt the system is in general, and how both parties are simply more about money, and power, then actually trying to be a civial servant for the people. You want to be a civil servant? then how about working for free? you pieces of ****! I mean, if you actually care about your own country?
     
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    So now YOU are the ultimate source of truth and knowledge? There are only the correct people that agree with you and everyone else is inherently wrong? Wow.
    God is not real? You are free to have your own opinion. But that's all it is.
    I've never known anyone that had an abortion. What inner city blue run area do you live in?
     
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    This thread is of such low quality it makes the baby Jesus cry.
     
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    Little kids that fail to do their job say, "The dog ate my homework".
    When Biden fails to do his job he says, "It's Putin and COVID's fault".
     
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    "So, they would be perfectly fine, if Mary had Aborted Jesus Christ."

    is God not all powerful, if he can get a little girl "Mary" pregnant, sure he could stop her from aborting
     
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    did Jesus die? or just pretend to die and pretend to be stuck in his body for 3 days...

    "1500 Year-Old Bible Found In Turkey Is Stirring Up Controversy About Christianity"


    https://www.sunnyskyz.com/good-news...Is-Stirring-Up-Controversy-About-Christianity

    ""Much to the dismay of the Vatican, an approx. 1500-2000 year old bible was found in Turkey, in the Ethnography Museum of Ankara. Discovered and kept secret in the year 2000, the book contains the Gospel of Barnabas – a disciple of Christ – which shows that Jesus was not crucified, nor was he the son of God, but a Prophet. The book also calls Apostle Paul "The Impostor". The book also claims that Jesus ascended to heaven alive, and that Judas Iscariot was crucified in his place."
     
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    Republicans been blaming Covid for Trump failures for years now - but seems off topic, just realized thread we were in

    maybe it's because the golden calf claimed to be the chosen one and God sent a plague?
     
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    He probably does believe that in actual fact, one of those who prays while his child dies of simple fever.

    Had we aborted Christ the world would have been MUCH better off over the last several millennia
     
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    Why? Because control freak tyrants would have stolen, murdered and terrorized without anyone to stop them? You may want to live in a world run by tyrannical Democrats... I don't.
     
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    Probably the storage in the testicle. Any male masturbator is a genocide.

     
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    WHOA... THAT POST IS IN THE ETHER SOMEWHERE. Can you resend in more usable fashion?
     
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    sorry some believe God is so weak that he can be aborted, maybe why he impregnates children
     
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    It is easy to make theistic claims. Here is one of mine. One cannot support Trump or the Clintons and be a true believer in Christ. I said it so it must be true, right? If no, then your theistic claim is as subjective as my own.
     
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    Because several religious wars may never have happened. Do you realise there has never been a Buddhist religious war?
     
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    Suuuure!
     

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