About the Holocaust

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  1. MGB ROADSTER

    MGB ROADSTER Banned

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    Served with love even to holocaust deniers
     
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    Jazz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That's great! It's a start towards recognizing the Palestinians.
    And what is in that parcel?
    I googled:

    Made in Israel: SodaStream now proudly labels its products with the Israeli flag – Yonatan 07.02.17

    Below the flag a note reads, "This product is made by Arabs and Jews working side by side in peace and harmony."
    Includes videos [2:54, 0:30].
    February 22, 2017

    And here you can see the product ---->

    https://plus61j.net.au/editors-picks/made-israel-arabs-jews-working-side-side/
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    Thank you for your kind heart and your love to all, dear Roadster. Gladly do I send you my love in return and wish you a happy New Year!

    May Israel have the heart and determination to continue sharing its business success with the beleaguered Pals. Eventually it will lead to them becoming good friends and neighbors like they used to be at one time. Nothing is impossible! :pray:
     
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    Thank you dear Jazz.
    I can say after visiting the Middle East couple of times that the Israeli neighbors DO NOT want to share a common life.
    Even the UN started to understand that after looking what the so called Palestinians teach their kids.
    Let's hope for more good news.
     
  4. Jazz

    Jazz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes, that is a good idea. :thumbsup:

    Good Night!
     
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    Grau Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If you think that the persecution of Ms. Furchner is disgusting, a 101 German man(1) was sentenced to 5 years in prison even though the prosecution couldn't prove that he killed anyone.

    The current German government seems so desperate to appease the multi billion dollar, international Holocaust Industry - Lobby that they are frantically tormenting Germany's oldest generation for no justifiable reason other than that they managed to survive one of history's worst wars and most brutal and ruthless Allied occupation.

    Ms. Furchner was only 18 - 19 years old when she worked as a secretary and would probably know as much as anyone what really went on. If she ever had any thoughts about debunking the homicidal gas chamber myth or the myth of a genocidal German agenda, she now knows the misery she will invite.

    That is, after all, one of the objectives of these Soviet style show trials; to intimidate WW 2's last witnesses from telling the truth about mythical homicidal gas, steam and electrocution chambers and the equally mythical genocidal German agenda.

    Thanks,


    “If you would know who controls you see who you may not criticise.”
    Tacitus
    https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/654209-if-you-would-know-who-controls-you-see-who-you


    (1) “101-year-old Nazi guard convicted”
    https://www.rt.com/news/558007-germany-nazi-concentration-camp-guard-convicted/


    EXCERPT “The court found that the defendant served in a guard battalion stationed at the concentration camp from 1942 until 1945. Presiding Judge Udo Lechtermann noted that S. had “willingly supported the mass extermination” of camp prisoners.

    During the process, defense attorney Stefan Waterkamp argued his client should be acquitted because the prosecutor’s office had failed to prove the defendant’s complicity in any one particular murder case.

    According to the German media, 101-year-old Josef S. is the oldest Nazi criminal to stand trial in the country.” CONTINUED
     
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    Grau Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That's very thoughtful but no one here has denied that the Holocaust happened.

    In fact, only a very few people actually feel like the Holocaust was completely fabricated but about 2/3 of the world(1) feels that it has been grossly exaggerated and crassly exploited.

    It is primarily Westerners who are victims of residual WW 2 Allied propaganda and Holocaust Industry brainwashing via Hollywood and MSM.

    If there were any truth to the standard Holocaust narrative, it wouldn't need draconian "Holocaust denial" laws to shield it from open debate and honest examination.

    Thanks,




    (1) ”THE WORLD IS FULL OF HOLOCAUST DENIERS”
    https://www.theatlantic.com/interna...he-world-is-full-of-holocaust-deniers/370870/

    EXCERPT “Only a third of the world's population believe the genocide has been accurately described in historical accounts.

    Some said they thought the number of people who died has been exaggerated; others said they believe it's a myth.

    Thirty percent of respondents said it's probably true that "Jews still talk too much about what happened to them in the Holocaust."

    - Hindus were most likely to believe that the number of Holocaust deaths has been exaggerated.

    - people younger than 65 were much more likely to say they believe that facts about the Holocaust have been distorted”CONTINUED
     
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    As opposed to what the Israelis teach their kids:

    "Once we were alarmed when we discovered anti-Israeli propaganda, accompanied by racist caricatures, which was included in textbooks used by refugee children in Gaza. And now it is clear, although only few parents know about it, that we, the Israelis, are employing much worse material of racist hatred which is accompanied by caricatures no less racist. Parents buy those books for their children, often without knowing their content; or the children get them in school or municipal libraries. And what a wonder: those are almost the only books which are never left on the shelf. At the moment they are returned to the library, a queue of children is waiting for every book."

    Israeli Hate Literature for Children by Tamar Meroz, first published in Ha'aretz, Weekly Supplement, September 20, 1974.
     
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    FatBack Well-Known Member

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    @Esau

    What do you make of this? There are far more examples
     
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  9. Grau

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    Feel free to ask for clarification concerning anything I've written and I'd be happy to respond.

    Regardless of my skepticism concerning the entire Holocaust narrative, I have no use for Neo Nazism, anti Semitism or White Supremacism.

    Thanks,
     
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    Hello, Everyone, yesterday was "Holocaust Memorial Day!!"

    Ukrainian army choir sings 'Eli Eli' on International Holocaust Memorial Day
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    They sang the Hebrew song "Eli Eli" on Friday at the Babyn Yar massacre site.

    Check link and listen here:
    https://www.msn.com/en-ca/entertain...ernational-holocaust-memorial-day/ar-AA16Pve1
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    In 1941, over 33,000 Jews and tens of thousands of Ukrainians, Roma, Soviets and the physically and mentally disabled were executed by the Nazis at the site. *

    The killings still go on, albeit under a new leadership of peace loving, democratic and christian countries, called NATO.!
    Western countries will deliver more than 300 tanks to Ukraine, Kyiv’s ambassador to France said on Friday.
    I think they should already start dusting off Nuremberg and get ready to prosecute and hang this next set of criminals.

    * They are forgetting to mention the homosexuals!!!
     
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    Hello,

    After closer and more objective examination, it turns out that the Germans are as guilty of a massacre in Babi Yar as they were at Kaytn. In other words, they didn't do it.

    EXCERPT "Soviet archival records reveal that the atrocity propaganda about Katyn and Babi Yar was fabricated by Ilya Ehrenburg and Vasily Grossman, who also invented and reported the now discredited victim counts of Nazi concentration camps: 4 million at Auschwitz; 1.5 million at Majdanek and 3.5 million at Treblinka." CONTINUED (1)

    Examinations of detailed Aerial Photography, related news sources and interviews with the locals confirm that the Babi Yar massacre could not have happened at its alleged location or at the time claimed because the photos remain no evidence of human activity during the time of the alleged massacre.

    Students of WW 2 and the Holocaust must remember the not only the "other side" uses propaganda and Russia's Illya Ehrenburg was a master propagandist,

    Thanks,



    (1) What Happened at Babi Yar? Fact vs. Myth”
    http://www.fpp.co.uk/Auschwitz/BabiYar/Nikiforuk.html

    EXCERPT “THE MEMORY of the "massacre" of Jews at Babi Yar is painful to all politicians. But evidence shows it never happened. Aerial reconnaissance photos taken before and during World War II show mass graves of victims of the Soviet Cheka/NKVD, but an absence of Jewish mass burials.

    What if anything, happened at a place called Babi Yar (Old Woman's Ravine) near Kiev, Ukraine - September 29, 1941? According to official histories and inscriptions on monuments, 250,000 people, mostly Jews, were killed by the Nazis there. But if thousands of Kievan Jews (those not evacuated by the Soviets) were killed in September of 1941 by the Germans, they were not murdered or buried at Babi Yar. This fact was revealed in aerial reconnaissance photos discovered in the U.S. National Archives in Washington, DC.”

    A number of additional, overlooked historical facts undermine the credibility of the standard tale propagated about Babi Yar today.

    • For one thing, the Babi Yar massacre was not mentioned in the Ukrainian Resistance press, although the killing of its members by the Germans in Kiev is described.
    • Secondly, the occurrence of the Babi Yar massacre is excluded, until the late 1970s, from the writings of Ukrainian emigres (former wartime inhabitants of Kiev) as well as from Ukrainian encyclopedias; some published by Western universities.
    • Thirdly, and perhaps most importantly, for decades the Babi Yar massacre did not catch the literary attention of Kiev's Jewish population."
    CONTINUED
     
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    The Flat Earthers claim that is a psyop site, a gatekeeper, full of disinfo to make Flat Earthers look silly, thereby turning people away and concluding Flat Earthers are morons.

    It's possible. Just look at all the trolls and disinfo on 9/11. Similar story.
     
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    Obsessive denial of the Holocaust is filthy & disgusting.
     
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    Which American company supplied punch cards to the Nazis so they could catalog Jews?

    Who was Prescott Bush, Dubya's grandfather, doing business with in Germany around that time?

    Why did Herman Goering say, "I decide who is an Aryan and who is not" ; and why were there 150,000 or so Jews and half-Jews in the Germany military while Nazis were proclaiming the 'purity' of the Aryans? - Bryan Mark Rigg, Hitler's Jewish Soldiers

    Why did the Nazis, as soon as they were in power, ban all Jewish newspapers and publications except the Zionist ones?

    Why did Jewish bankers lend huge amounts to the Nazi regime, as revealed by Samuel Untermeyer, one of the leading American Jews of the day?

    If Hitler hated Jews so much why did he effectively allow a country to be built for them? - The Haavara Agreement

    And did you know that the Nazi publicist Julius Streicher admitted the racist Nuremberg Laws were patterned on Jewish law?


    The real evil is the Nazi-like massacres Israel is committing against the innocent Palestinians.
     
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    Again pro Islamo Jihado Arabo propaganda.
    We are fed up with the Palestinian wall of lies.
     
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    I don't know who you consider "We" but there are many Israelis and Jewish people around the world who condemn the ethnic cleansing agenda of Israel's Right Wing extremists.

    Even Israeli media condemns(1) the Zionist "Provoke-then-Massacre" strategy(2) of ethnic cleansing.

    Do you consider Haaretz to be "pro Islamo Jihado Arabo propaganda" ?

    Thanks,



    (1) "The Israel Massacre Forces"
    https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.premium-the-israel-massacre-forces-1.5962852

    EXCERPT "The shooting on the Gaza border shows once again that the killing of Palestinians is accepted in Israel more lightly than the killing of mosquitoes"CONTINUED


    (2). "Moshe Dayan, in his diaries said: "Our strategy was always to provoke the Arabs and get an appropriate response so we could attack and smash them."

    https://tekgnosis.typepad.com/tekgnosis/2009/05/the-matrix-report-v-20-pt1.html
     
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    How do you feel about Nakba denial?
     
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    news to me, source?
    the red cross didnt inspect the camp to investigate how well the germans were treated :eekeyes:

    Wow so you dont even know what a holocaust is?? seriously?
     
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    What makes you think he would know about it? Nothing exists to even suggest such a thing.
     
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    I dont understand where they cooked up this exterminate gig? I always wondered whatever gave these guys the idea hitler was going to exterminate the jews in the first place?

    Ever see this?



    something everyone should download.
    it makes the holocaust religion cult cringe!
     
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    Not even in the same universe as excessive evangelizing!

    The skeptic cant lie, evangelists all too often lie. :rolleyes:
     
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    Because he was the "Fuhrer", Grand Nazi-in-chief.
    Hitler ordered removal of the Jews, not explicit mass murder. His paladins (like Himmler) had to take care of the details.

    Hitler himself could not bear the sight of suffering. He never visited one of his death camps.
     
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    The older I get the more I begin to doubt the main stream narrative tbh.
     
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    Brain performance decreases with age.
    It's then easier to fall prey to revisionist lies. :(
     
  25. Kokomojojo

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    not true only in the case of some brain disease like alzheimer's.
     
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