Africa Growing EV Market for Chinese Imports

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  1. Bowerbird

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    And Indonesia is about to enter the EV market if for no other reason than at the moment it has the highest level of air pollution in the world
     
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    And as we Aussies know China might have cheap imports but if you want something that will last longer than 2 minutes you buy something built elsewhere
     
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    And you would be wrong. Trump’s policies are the Reagan policies.
     
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    What would be huge is coal fired power stations with electrical distribution systems. The Chinese Communist Party is providing those to developing nations as part of their debt diplomacy strategy.
     
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    Except that distribution network doesn’t reach rural communities
     
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    As economic wealth increases distribution systems will be expanded. That’s how it works.
     
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    Does it? Well until you provide a citation I am filing that response in the waste basket
     
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    Lols no citation no links no reason to believe
     
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    Read the history of Australia.
     
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    It’s obvious but if you need more confirmation:


    — The Biden Malaise: How America Bounces Back from Joe Biden's Dismal Repeat of the Jimmy Carter Years by Kimberley Strassel
    https://a.co/5NhPC4o
     
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    Renewable energy and electrification go hand-in-hand with EVs and electric scooters. Over half of Africans don't have access to electricity. It is an inevitable fact that the situation is changing rapidly.

    https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2024/03/how-renewables-power-africa/

    Over half of Africa’s people – about 600 million – lack access to even the bare minimum of electricity.
    • 76% of all electricity required on the continent could come from renewable resources by 2040.
    • A new database called the Renewable Power Plant Database Africa provides information on existing and planned renewable energy projects.
    • While hydropower has been the main renewable energy source, solar and wind are becoming more affordable.
    • Sharing electricity and data across borders is crucial to ensure a stable renewable energy supply for all African countries.
    We conclude that combining the advantages of hydropower with wind and solar would be a more sustainable alternative to hydropower alone. And that hybrid solutions would be the best option.
     
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    I lived in Nigeria for five years. All that renewable charging gear would be stolen within a week.
     
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    Maybe but so would the copper wiring if they put in a distributed system. BTW it does NOT have to be high tech windmills. I remember going out to my Uncles farm so my father could set up a wind power system because they did not have mains power - this was back in the 1960s. I was the classic Australian metal blade windmill hooked up to a series of lead acid batteries
     
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    It doesn't matter what it would be; it wouldn't last a week.
     
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    Things change. What are you talking about - the 1990s? Kind of hard to hijack a wind turbine or a solar panel array. Plus it would be difficult to sell on the black market, without getting caught. I think your reaching.
     
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    It comes down to “any excuse” methinks. Plus from what I gather these “power stations are set up in towns and are centres where phones can be charged for a fee - I would then imagine the locals would be quite protective
     
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    Early 2000's. With decades of experience. You have no idea of the ingenuity and ruthlessness of Nigerian criminals.
    When I was there they would gut newborns to use to smuggle drugs.
     
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    Solar doesn't scale and doesn't provide 24/7 power on a large scale. Solar is a niche off grid source of power. It is only economic because power line hookups are very expensive if the grid is not in fairly close proximity.

    https://toddmoss.substack.com/p/why-isnt-solar-scaling-in-africa
     
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    You imagine wrong.
     
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    You have offered no proof either way and just supplied scepticism.
     
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    The history of Australia shows that your imagination is incorrect.
     
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    I lived there. Anyone else who can say the same is free to comment.
     
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    If you provide proof it will be ignored and a few days later there will be a claim made that proof was never provided. That’s the modus operandi.
     
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    When? And as what field worker or coloniser? (Borrowing from Black Panther of course :p). This is an unverifiable claim
     
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    Africa installed 3.7 GW of Solar in 2023, giving them a total of 16 GW. But to your point, 3 GW of that 2023 total was installed in South Africa, and Nigeria didn’t even make the list.

    https://www.pv-magazine.com/2024/02/05/africas-annual-pv-additions-hit-3-7-gw-in-2023/

    Africa’s annual PV additions hit 3.7 GW in 2023

    According to new figures from the Africa Solar Industry Association (AFSIA), the continent’s cumulative installed PV capacity reached 16 GW at the end of December, based on 3.7 GW of new annual installations.

    Burkina Faso has installed the second-most solar capacity in Africa with 92 MW, followed by Mauritania with 84 MW, Kenya with 69.5 MW, and the Democratic Republic of Congo with 40 MW. Except for Mauritania, where all of the new capacity is C&I, these countries have built large-scale projects. Another 15 countries installed more than 10 MW each last year, but most African states remain below 1 MW of installed capacity.
     
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