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    Lying Pen

    Jeremiah 8:8
    “‘How can you say, “We are wise, for we have the law of the Lord,” when actually the lying pen of the scribes has handled it falsely?

    1 Timothy 1:3
    As I urged you when I went into Macedonia, stay there in Ephesus so that you may command certain people not to teach false doctrines any longer

    2 Timothy 4:3
    For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear.

    Jude 1:4
    For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of an ancient order to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God,…

    Isaiah 8:12
    Do not call conspiracy everything this people calls a conspiracy; do not fear what they fear, and do not dread it.

    Jeremiah 11:9
    And the Lord said unto me, A conspiracy is found among the men of Judah, and among the inhabitants of Jerusalem.

    Ezekiel 22:25
    There is a conspiracy of her prophets in the midst thereof, like a roaring lion ravening the prey; they have devoured souls; they have taken the treasure and precious things; they have made her many widows in the midst thereof.



    2 Thessalonians 2:2
    not to become easily unsettled or alarmed by the teaching allegedly from us—whether by a prophecy or by word of mouth or by letter—asserting that the day of the Lord has already come…

    Here is that letter in our bibles.

    Matthew 27:51
    51 At that moment the curtain of the temple was torn in two from top to bottom. The earth shook, the rocks split 52 and the tombs broke open. The bodies of many holy people who had died were raised to life. 53 They came out of the tombs after Jesus’ resurrection and went into the holy city and appeared to many people.
     
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    But, but, I thought the text of the Bible was God’s word. So how can this be?
     
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    God's word was moved to add Pagan beliefs from the Catholics.
     
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    Yahwah's name was in the original New Testament scriptures

    After killing Hebrew Christians, the Jews would take the New Testament scripture written in Hebrew, and carefully cut the name of God out. Then they would place the divine name in a safe place to keep. Following that, they then would burn the remainder of the scrolls in a fire. Rabbi Yose who lived during the second century AD states that, "One cuts out the reference to the Divine Name which are in them [the New Testament writings] and stores them away, and the rest burns." One of his characteristic sayings is, "He who proclaimed the coming of the Messiah,[John] and he who hated scholars [Yahshua] and his disciples; and that false prophet and those slanderers, will have no part in the future world." According to Wilhelm Bacher this was directed against the Hebrew Christians. And so it is an established fact then, that the Disciples of Christ did in fact write the Holy Name of God into the original New Testament.
     
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    Evangelist John Ramirez reports being able to drink blood.... astral project.... go to churches and mess them up..........

    in a way Constantine was sent by the dark side of the force to mess up the Messianic Jewish Movement that had already been taken over by Pagan Christianity... .Churchianity..........

    and for sure Christianity has been significantly taken over by fallen angels influencing so many of the leaders.....
    .....





    Now that is definitely interesting........ Wow!!!!
     
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    Pope Gregory and Paganism.
    The attitude of the Catholic Church toward paganism is best summed up by Pope Gregory the Great, in his words to a missionary: “You must not interfere with any traditional belief or religious observance that can be harmonized with Christianity.”
    Not only were the Congregations divided by Gnosticism, but enticed by philosophy and paganism also, and there were geographic divisions as well.
    Pope Gregory 540 – 12 March 604.
     
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    List of words that do not belong in scriptures.

    Angel in place of messenger.
    Church in place of Congregation.
    Cross in place of stake.
    Lucifer in place of Morning Star.
    Hades in place of grave.
    Tartarus also in place of grave.
    Hell in place of grave and Gehenna.
    Hell in one place for pit.
    The Lord in place of God's name.
    God in place of Elohiym.
    Jesus in place of Yahshua.
    James in place of Jacob.
    Prince in place of minister.

    The Lord in place of Yahwah.

    The translators have been putting words in God's mouth.
     
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    The Catholic Church claims responsibility for the change from seventh-day to first-day Sabbath. Here is an explanation from The Catechism of the Catholic Church Section 2 Article 3 (1994):

    Sunday – fulfillment of the Sabbath. Sunday is expressly distinguished from the Sabbath which it follows chronologically every week; for Christians its ceremonial observance replaces that of the Sabbath...

    The Sabbath, which represented the completion of the first creation, has been replaced by Sunday which recalls the new creation, has been replaced by Sunday which recalls the new creation inaugurated by the Resurrection of Christ...

    In respecting religious liberty and the common good of all, Christians should seek recognition of Sundays and the Church’s holy days as legal holidays.

    And here are various Catholic sources claiming the change was the doing of the Roman Catholic Church:

    Cardinal James Gibbons, The Faith of Our Fathers (Ayers Publishing, 1978): 108:

    But you may read the Bible from Genesis to Revelation, and you will not find a single line authorizing the sanctification of Sunday. The Scriptures enforce the religious observance of Saturday, a day which we never sanctify.

    The Convert's Catechism of Catholic Doctrine (1957): 50:

    Q. Which is the Sabbath day?
    A. Saturday is the Sabbath day.
    Q. Why Do we observe Sunday instead of Saturday?
    A. We observe Sunday instead of Saturday because the Catholic Church transferred the solemnity from Saturday to Sunday.

    Chancellor Albert Smith for Cardinal of Baltimore Archdiocese, letter dated February 10, 1920:

    If Protestants would follow the Bible, they should worship God on the Sabbath day by God is Saturday. In keeping the Sunday, they are following a law of the Catholic Church.


    Stephen Keenan, Catholic—Doctrinal Catechism 3rd Edition: 174:

    Question: Have you any other way of proving the Church has power to institute festivals of precept?

    Answer: Had she not such power, she could not have done that in which all modern religionists agree with her, she could not have substituted the observance of Sunday the 1st day of the week, for the observance of Saturday the 7th day, a change for which there is no Scriptural authority.i

    John A. O'Brien, The Faith of Millions: 472-473: "The third commandment is: 'Remember thou keep ...


    Our Sunday Visitor (February 5, 1950):

    Practically everything Protestants regard as essential or important they have received from the Catholic Church... The Protestant mind does not seem to realize that in accepting the Bible and observing the Sunday, in keeping Christmas and Easter, they are accepting the authority of the spokesman for the church, the Pope.


    Louis Gaston Segur, Plain Talk about the Protestantism of To-Day (London: Thomas Richardson and Son, 1874): 213:

    Thus the observance of Sunday by the Protestants is a homage they pay, in spite of themselves, to the authority of the (Catholic) Church.


    The Catholic Mirror (September 23, 1893):

    The Catholic Church, for over one thousand years before the existence of a Protestant, by virtue of her divine mission, changed the day from Saturday to Sunday...

    The Adventists are the only body of Christians with the Bible as their teacher, who can find no warrant in its pages for the change of day from the seventh to the first. Hence their appellation, "Seventh-day Adventists."


    Catholic Priest T. Enright, CSSR, Kansas City, MO:

    It was the holy Catholic Church that changed the day of rest from Saturday to Sunday, the 1st day of the week. And it not only compelled all to keep Sunday, but at the Council of Laodicea, AD 364, anathematized those who kept the Sabbath and urged all persons to labor on the 7th day under penalty of anathema.

    Catholic Priest T. Enright, CSSR, lecture at Hartford, KS, Feb 18, 1884:

    I have repeatedly offered $1000 to any one who can furnish any proof from the Bible that Sunday is the day we are bound to keep...The Bible says, “Remember the Sabbath day to keep it holy,” but the Catholic Church says, “No, keep the first day of the week,” and the whole world bows in obedience.


    Cardinal John Newman, An Essay on the Development of Christian Doctrine (London: Basil Montague Pickering, 1878): 373:

    The use of temples, and these dedicated to particular saints, and ornamented on occasions with branches of trees; incense, lamps, and candles; votive offerings on recovery from illness; holy water; asylums; holydays and seasons…are all of pagan origin and sanctified by their adoption into the Church.


    Catholic Record (September 1, 1923):

    The [catholic] Church is above the Bible, and this transference of the Sabbath observance is proof of that fact.

    Pope Leo XIII, Praeclara Gratulationis Publicae (The Reunion of Christendom), June 20, 1894:

    We hold upon this earth the place of God Almighty.

    “Pope,” Ferraris’ Ecclesiastic Dictionary:

    The Pope is of so great dignity and so exalted that he is not a mere man, but as it were God, and the vicar of God.

    Our Sunday Visitor (April 18, 1915): 3:

    The letters inscribed in the Pope’s miter are these: VICARIUS FILII DEI, which is the Latin for, “Vicar of the Son of God.”

    Letter from C.F. Thomas, Chancellor of Cardinal Gibbons on October 28, 1895:

    Of course the Catholic Church claims that the change was her act…And the act is a MARK of her ecclesiastical power and authority in religious matters.

    American Catholic Quarterly Review (January 1883):

    Sunday...is purely a creation of the Catholic Church.

    Catholic American Sentinel (June 1893):

    Sunday...It is a law of the Catholic Church alone...

    S.C. Mosna, Storia della Domenica (1969): 366-367:

    Not the Creator of the Universe in Genesis 2:1-3, but the Catholic Church “can claim the honor of having granted man a pause to his work every seven days.”

    “The Question Box,” The Catholic Universe Bulletin (August 14, 1942): 4:

    The (Catholic) Church changed the observance of the Sabbath to Sunday by right of the divine, infallible authority given to her by her Founder, Jesus Christ. The Protestant claiming the Bible to be the only guide of faith, has no warrant for observing Sunday. In this matter, the Seventh-day Adventist is the only consistent Protestant.

    Arthur Weigall, The Paganism in Our Christianity (New York: Putnam’s Sons, 1928): 145:

    The Church made a sacred day of Sunday…largely because it was the weekly festival of the sun; for it was a definite Christian policy to take over the pagan festivals endeared to the people by tradition, and to give them a Christian significance.

    John A. O'Brien, The Faith of Millions: the Credentials of the Catholic Religion Revised Edition (Our Sunday Visitor Publishing, 1974): 400-401:

    But since Saturday, not Sunday, is specified in the Bible, isn't it curious that non-Catholics, who claim to take their religion directly from the Bible and not from the Church, observe Sunday instead of Saturday? Yes, of course, it is inconsistent; but this change was made about fifteen centuries before Protestantism was born, and by that time the custom was universally observed. They have continued the custom even though it rests upon the authority of the Catholic Church and not upon and explicit text in the Bible. That observance remains as a reminder of the Mother Church from which the non-Catholic sects broke away—like a boy running away from home but still carrying in his pocket a picture of his mother or a lock of her hair.

    This change from Saturday to Sunday Sabbath was prophesied about in Daniel 7. The great reformer Philipp Melanchton knew this truth five centuries ago. He wrote this:

    He changeth the tymes and lawes that any of the sixe worke dayes commanded of God will make them unholy and idle dayes when he lyste, or of their owne holy dayes abolished make worke dayes agen, or when they changed ye Saterday into Sondaye...They have changed God’s lawes and turned them into their owne tradicions to be kept above God’s precepts.ii

    Copied form here:
    https://amazingdiscoveries.org/S-deception-Sabbath_Sunday_Catholic_Church
     
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    Annihilationism is taught in the bible

    Annihilationism (also known as extinctionism or destructionism) is a belief that after the final judgment some human beings will be totally destroyed so as to not exist, or that their consciousness will be extinguished, rather than suffer everlasting torment in hell. Annihilationism is directly related to the doctrine of conditional immortality, the idea that a human soul is not immortal unless it is given eternal life by God.

    Atheist claim they could never worship a God who is more evil than any person who lived, by torturing people in Hell for all eternity.




    Genesis 2:17
    but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat of it you will surely die."

    Genesis 3:3
    but God did say, 'You must not eat fruit from the tree that is in the middle of the garden, and you must not touch it, or you will die.' "
    God never said they could not examine the fruit.

    Genesis 3:4
    "You will not surely die," the serpent said to the woman.

    The serpent’s doctrine is that there is eternal life in Hell.
    Note: The word Hell is nowhere to be found in the original bible text.



    Deuteronomy 30:15
    See, I set before you today life and prosperity, death and destruction.

    Deuteronomy 32:39
    "See now that I myself am He! There is no God besides me. I put to death and I bring to life, I have wounded and I will heal, and no one can deliver out of my hand.

    1 Samuel 2:6
    "The LORD brings death and makes alive; he brings down to the grave and raises up.

    Proverbs 2:18
    For her house leads down to death, and her paths to the death of spirits.

    Proverbs 8:36
    But whoever fails to find me harms himself; all who hate me love death."

    Proverbs 11:19
    The truly righteous man attains life, but he who pursues evil goes to his death.

    Proverbs 16:25
    There is a way that seems right to a man, but in the end it leads to death.

    Proverbs 23:14
    Punish him with the rod and save his (soul / spirit) from death.

    Psalm 56:13
    For you have delivered me from death and my feet from stumbling, that I may walk before God in the light of life.

    Psalm 118:18
    The LORD has chastened me severely, but he has not given me over to death.

    Hosea 13:14
    "I will ransom them from the power of the grave ; I will redeem them from death. Where, O death, are your plagues? Where, O grave, is your destruction?

    Ezekiel 33:11
    Say to them, 'As surely as I live, declares the Sovereign LORD, I take no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but rather that they turn from their ways and live. Turn! Turn from your evil ways! Why will you die, O house of Israel?'

    Ezekiel 18:32
    I take no pleasure in the death of anyone, declares the Sovereign LORD. Repent and live!

    Ezekiel 18:23
    I do not take any pleasure in the death of the wicked declares the Sovereign LORD. Rather, I am pleased when they turn from their ways and live?


    Matthew 16:28
    I tell you the truth, some who are standing here will not taste death, but they will see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom."

    Mark 9:1
    And he said to them, "I tell you the truth, some who are standing here will not taste death, but they will see the kingdom of God come with power."

    Luke 9:27
    I tell you the truth, some who are standing here will not taste death, but they will see the kingdom of God."

    John 5:24
    "I tell you the truth, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life and will not be condemned; he has crossed over from death to life.

    Hebrews 5:7
    During the days of Jesus' life on earth, he offered up prayers and petitions with loud cries and tears to the one who could save him from death, and he was heard because of his reverent submission.

    Hebrews 6:1
    Therefore let us leave the elementary teachings about Christ and go on to maturity, not laying again the foundation of repentance from acts that lead to death,…

    James 5:20
    remember this: Whoever turns a sinner from the error of his way will save him from death and cover over a multitude of sins.

    Revelation 1:18
    I am the Living One; I was dead, and behold I am alive forever and ever! And I hold the keys of death and Hades (Grave).

    Revelation 6:8
    I looked, and there before me was a pale horse! Its rider was named Death, and Hades (Grave) was following close behind him. They were given power over a fourth of the earth to kill by sword, famine and plague, and by the wild beasts of the earth.

    Revelation 20:13
    The sea gave up the dead that were in it, and Death and Hades (grave) gave up the dead that were in them, and each person was judged according to what he had done.

    Revelation 20:14
    Then Death and Hades (grave) were thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death.

    Genesis 18:25
    Far be it from you to do such a thing—to kill the righteous with the wicked, treating the righteous and the wicked alike. Far be it from you! Will not the Judge of all the earth do right?”

    Matthew 10:28
    And do not fear them which can kill the body, but are not able to kill the (soul / spirit): but rather fear him which is able to destroy both (soul / spirit) and body in (hell / Gehenna.)
    A soul consist of both body and spirit.

    Ecclesiastes 9:5
    For the living know that they will die, but the dead know nothing; they have no further reward, and even their name is forgotten.

    Job 27:8
    For what hope have the godless when they are cut off, when God takes away their life?
    The Serpent's doctrine is that there is eternal life in Hell, and that God is a liar, and that people will not surly die.
     
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    Who is a Jew or the nation Israel.
    This is what God has spoken through His prophets.


    Genesis 17:3

    Abram fell facedown, and God said to him, 4. "As for me, this is my covenant with you: You will be the father of many nations. 5. No longer will you be called Abram; your name will be Abraham, for I have made you a father of many nations. 6. I will make you very fruitful; I will make nations of you, and kings will come from you. 7. I will establish my covenant as an everlasting covenant between me and you and your descendants after you for the generations to come, to be your God and the God of your descendants after you.


    Genesis 35:11
    And God said to him, "I am God Almighty; be fruitful and increase in number. A nation and a community of nations will come from you, and kings will come from your body.


    Exodus 12:37
    The Israelites journeyed from Rameses to Succoth. There were about six hundred thousand men on foot, besides women and children. 38. Many other people went up with them, as well as large droves of livestock, both flocks and herds.


    Leviticus 19:34
    The alien living with you must be treated as one of your native-born. Love him as yourself, for you were aliens in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.


    Leviticus 24:22
    You are to have the same law for the alien and the native-born. I am the LORD your God.


    Numbers 15:15
    The community is to have the same rules for you and for the alien living among you; this is a lasting ordinance for the generations to come. You and the alien shall be the same before the LORD :


    Joshua 8:33
    All Israel, aliens and citizens alike, with their elders, officials and judges, were standing on both sides of the ark of the covenant of the LORD, facing those who carried it—the priests, who were Levites. Half of the people stood in front of Mount Gerizim and half of them in front of Mount Ebal, as Moses the servant of the LORD had formerly commanded when he gave instructions to bless the people of Israel.


    Esther 8:17
    In every province and in every city, wherever the edict of the king went, there was joy and gladness among the Jews, with feasting and celebrating. And many people of other nationalities became Jews because fear of the Jews had seized them.

    The word "Jew" was a nickname assigned by the Babylonians to anyone who either lived in or came from the area of Judea.

    Psalm 2:4
    The One enthroned in heaven laughs; the Lord scoffs at them. 5. Then he rebukes them in his anger and terrifies them in his wrath, saying, 6. "I have installed my King
    on Zion, my holy hill." 7. I will proclaim the decree of the LORD : He said to me, "You are my Son; today I have become your Father. 8. Ask of me, and I will make the nations your inheritance, the ends of the earth your possession.


    Psalm 82:8
    Rise up, O God, judge the earth, for all the nations are your inheritance.


    Psalm 111:6
    He has shown his people the power of his works, giving them the lands of other nations.


    Isaiah 9:3
    You have enlarged the nation and increased their joy; they rejoice before you as people rejoice at the harvest, as men rejoice when dividing the plunder.


    Isaiah 14:1
    The LORD will have compassion on Jacob; once again he will choose Israel and will settle them in their own land. Aliens will join them and unite with the house of Jacob.


    Isaiah 26:15
    You have enlarged the nation, O LORD; you have enlarged the nation. You have gained glory for yourself;
    you have extended all the borders of the land.


    Isaiah 44:5
    One will say, 'I belong to the LORD '; another will call himself by the name of Jacob; still another will write on his hand, ['The LORD's / Yahwah],' and will take the name Israel.


    Isaiah 56:3
    Let no foreigner who has bound himself to the LORD say, "The LORD will surely exclude me from his people."- 6. And foreigners who bind themselves to the LORD to serve him, to love the name of the LORD, and to worship him, all who keep the Sabbath without desecrating it
    and who hold fast to my covenant-
    7. these I will bring to my holy mountain and give them joy in my house of prayer. Their burnt offerings and sacrifices will be accepted on my altar; for my house will be called a house of prayer for all nations."
    8. The Sovereign LORD declares— he who gathers the exiles of Israel: "I will gather still others to them besides those already gathered."


    Ezekiel 47
    21. "You are to distribute this land among yourselves according to the tribes of Israel. 22. You are to allot it as an inheritance for yourselves and for the aliens who have settled among you and who have children. You are to consider them as native-born Israelites; along with you they are to be allotted an inheritance among the tribes of Israel. 23. In whatever tribe the alien settles, there you are to give him his inheritance," declares the Sovereign LORD.


    Zechariah 2:10
    "Shout and be glad, O Daughter of Zion. For I am coming, and I will live among you," declares the LORD. 11. "Many nations will be joined with the LORD in that day and will become my people. I will live among you and you will know that the LORD Almighty has sent me to you. 12. The LORD will inherit Judah as his portion in the holy land and will again choose Jerusalem. 13. Be still before the LORD, all mankind, because he has roused himself from his holy dwelling."
     
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    Who is a Jew or the nation Israel.
    This is what God has spoken through His prophets.



    Matthew 12:21
    In his name the nations will put their hope."



    The Parable of the Tenants
    Luke 20
    9. He went on to tell the people this parable: "A man planted a vineyard, rented it to some farmers and went away for a long time. 10. At harvest time he sent a servant to the tenants so they would give him some of the fruit of the vineyard. But the tenants beat him and sent him away empty-handed. 11. He sent another servant, but that one also they beat and treated shamefully and sent away empty-handed. 12. He sent still a third, and they wounded him and threw him out.
    13. "Then the owner of the vineyard said, 'What shall I do? I will send my son, whom I love; perhaps they will respect him.' 14. "But when the tenants saw him, they talked the matter over. 'This is the heir,' they said. 'Let's kill him, and the inheritance will be ours.' 15. So they threw him out of the vineyard and killed him. "What then will the owner of the vineyard do to them? 16. He will come and kill those tenants and give the vineyard to others." When the people heard this, they said, "May this never be!" 17. Jesus looked directly at them and asked, "Then what is the meaning of that which is written:

    " 'The stone the builders rejected
    has become the capstone? 18. Everyone who falls on that stone will be broken to pieces, and he on whom it falls will be crushed."

    19. The teachers of the law and the chief priests looked for a way to arrest him immediately, because they knew he had spoken this parable against them. But they were afraid of the people.


    Acts 3:25
    And you are heirs of the prophets and of the covenant God made with your fathers. He said to Abraham, 'Through your offspring all peoples on earth will be blessed.'


    Romans 2:28
    For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: 29. But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.


    Romans 3:29
    Is God the God of Jews only? Is he not the God of Gentiles too? Yes, of Gentiles too,


    Romans 4:13
    It was not through law that Abraham and his offspring received the promise that he would be heir of the world, but through the righteousness that comes by faith. 14. For if those who live by law are heirs, faith has no value and the promise is worthless, 15. because law brings wrath. And where there is no law there is no transgression.
    16. Therefore, the promise comes by faith, so that it may be by grace and may be guaranteed to all Abraham's offspring—not only to those who are of the law but also to those who are of the faith of Abraham. He is the father of us all. 17. As it is written: "I have made you a father of many nations." He is our father in the sight of God, in whom he believed—the God who gives life to the dead and calls things that are not as though they were.


    Romans 4:18
    Against all hope, Abraham in hope believed and so became the father of many nations, just as it had been said to him, "So shall your offspring be."


    Romans 8:17
    Now if we are children, then we are heirs—heirs of God and co-heirs with Christ, if indeed we share in his sufferings in order that we may also share in his glory.


    Romans 9:6
    It is not as though God's word had failed. For not all who are descended from Israel are Israel. 7. Nor because they are his descendants are they all Abraham's children. On the contrary, "It is through Isaac that your offspring will be reckoned." 8. In other words, it is not the natural children who are God's children, but it is the children of the promise who are regarded as Abraham's offspring.


    Romans 9:24
    even us, whom he also called, not only from the Jews but also from the Gentiles?


    Romans 10:12
    For there is no difference between Jew and Gentile—the same Lord is Lord of all and richly blesses all who call on him,...


    Romans 10:19
    Again I ask: Did Israel not understand? First, Moses says, "I will make you envious by those who are not a nation;...


    1 Corinthians 14:21
    In the Law it is written: "Through men of strange tongues and through the lips of foreigners I will speak to this people, but even then they will not listen to me," says the Lord.


    Ephesians 2:12
    remember that at that time you were separate from Christ, excluded from citizenship in Israel and foreigners to the covenants of the promise, without hope and without God in the world.


    Ephesians 2:19
    Consequently, you are no longer foreigners and aliens, but fellow citizens with God's people and members of God's household,...


    Ephesians 3:6
    This mystery is that through the gospel the Gentiles are heirs together with Israel, members together of one body, and sharers together in the promise in Christ Jesus.


    Galatians 3:28
    There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.


    Galatians 3:29
    If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.


    Colossians 3:11
    Here there is no Greek or Jew, circumcised or uncircumcised, barbarian, Scythian, slave or free, but Christ is all, and is in all.


    Titus 3:7
    so that, having been justified by his grace, we might become heirs having the hope of eternal life.


    Revelation 2:9
    I know your afflictions and your poverty—yet you are rich! I know the slander of those who say they are Jews and are not, but are a synagogue of Satan.


    Revelation 3:9
    I will make those who are of the synagogue of Satan, who claim to be Jews though they are not, but are liars—I will make them come and fall down at your feet and acknowledge that I have loved you.


    Isaiah 65:15
    You will leave your name to my chosen ones as a curse; the Sovereign LORD will put you to death, but to his servants he will give another name.

    Acts 11:26
    and when he found him, he brought him to Antioch. So for a whole year Barnabas and Saul met with the church and taught great numbers of people. The disciples were called [Christians / Messianics] first at Antioch.


    A Jew is a convert to Orthodox Judaism and the Hebrews are an ethnic group of people.

    Contrary to popular belief, Jews are not a race, but an assembly of people.
     
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    Proverbs 8:23.
    I was formed
    long ages ago, at the very beginning, when the world came to be.
    Christ was formed in the beginning of creation by Yahwah.

    Christ Pre-existed.

    John 6:41
    At this the Jews there began to grumble about him because he said, “I am the bread that came down from heaven.”

    John 6:42
    They said, “Is this not Jesus, the son of Joseph, whose father and mother we know? How can he now say, ‘I came down from heaven’ ?”

    John 8:42
    Jesus said to them, “If God were your Father, you would love me, for I have come here from God. I have not come on my own; God sent me.

    John 8:58
    “Very truly I tell you,” Yahshua answered, “before Abraham was born, I existed!”

    John 10:36
    what about the one whom the Father set apart as his very own and sent into the world? Why then do you accuse me of blasphemy because I said, ‘I am God’s Son’?

    John 17:5
    5 And now, Father, glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world began.

    John 17:24
    “Father, I want those you have given me to be with me where I am, and to see my glory, the glory you have given me because you loved me before the creation of the world.

    Yahshua is a created being.
    Before Christ was born into this world and became known as Yahshua, he was called Peniel in Heaven.
     
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    God Evolved

    Alpha First Beginning


    Isaiah 44:6
    “This is what the Lord says— Israel’s King and Redeemer, the Lord Almighty: I am the first and I am the last; apart from me there is no God.

    Isaiah 48:12
    “Listen to me, Jacob, Israel, whom I have called: I am he; I am the first and I am the last.

    Isaiah 43:10. "You are my witnesses," declares the LORD (Yahwah), "and my servant whom I have chosen, so that you may know and believe me and understand that I am He. Before me no god formed, nor will there be one after me.

    The proof that God exist is in the fact that spontaneous evolution of life is not possible in this universe. God evolved, then He created. From the Subatomic and the primordial Dark Matter. A type of nothing, because it has no atomic bonds to form anything. God created gravity and gravitons to form the atomic elements of this Universe.

    Dark Matter is undifferentiated material which has no atomic bonds, this would make it of no particular substance. In other words, it is Nothing. And if you are willing to accept it, it is primordial, and God's store house for creating the universe from "Nothing."

    Dark Matter is accepted by the mainstream scientific community. The existence and properties of dark matter are inferred from its gravitational effects on visible matter, on radiation, and on the large-scale structure of the universe. The presence of dark matter in the universe, including gravitational lensing of background objects by galaxy clusters such as the Bullet Cluster, the temperature distribution of hot gas in galaxies and clusters of galaxies and, more recently, the pattern of anisotropies in the cosmic microwave background.

    According to cosmologists, dark matter is composed primarily of a not yet characterized type of subatomic particle.

    The belief that God created from nothing comes from the Ramban comments on Genesis: http://www.sefaria.org/Ramban_on_Genesis.1.1?lang=en&layout=lines&sidebarLang=all

    Dark Matter: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_matter
     
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    Yahwah reveals His name to Moses
    Exodus 3:13-15.
    13 And Moses said to Elohiym, “Suppose I go to the siblings of the Israelites and say to them, 'The Elohiym of your forefathers has sent me to you,' and they ask me, 'What is His name?' What shall I say to them?”
    14 And Elohiym said to Moses, “The Living that Lives. This is what you are to say to the Israelites: 'The Living has sent me to you.”
    15 And Elohiym also said to Moses, “Say to the Israelites, 'Yahwah, the Elohiym of your forefathers; the Elohiym of Abraham, the Elohiym of Isaac and the Elohiym of Jacob has sent me to you.' That’s my name forever, the name by which I’m to be remembered, from generation to generation.”

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    God's personal name means "Life Began."
     
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    The word "angel" in the Bible literally means "messenger" and is repeatedly used for that purpose in purely non-supernatural contexts to talk about mortal messengers. This isn't "social engineering." It's just basic literacy. And it isn't from "Greek mythology."
     
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    Your assumption is not correct.
     

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