Alec Baldwin: All criminal charges against actor over fatal shooting on Rust set are dropped

The defence would have been insanely simple. Take the jury to the range and have each of them recreate the scene with blank rounds. Then ask them to check the pistol and try to distinguish a live round from the dummies. End of story.

 

LOL, talk about calling the kettle black here.

so, let me reiterate. It is a movie set. there are plenty of things that went wrong on that day on the movie set, the least of which was Alec Baldwin firing that shot. You somehow don't care and have used gun politics and politics in general in your hyperpartisan argument to ignore all of that because you have already made up your GD mind that he is guilty despite other people pointing out the obvious. If you want to look at partisan, look to yourself and no one else. So, stop projecting again

 

You also get off scott free when you are a snot nosed kid causing trouble in Wisconsin.... who pulled the trigger twice..

Congrats to Alec.... Nobody really saw a case here for any sort of intentional act....

I hear they are now continuing the movie.... that's gotta be weird....

Can't wait until Alec gets his subpoena from the weaponization of movies committee...

 

in your imagination perhaps.

 

The least of the issues was someone getting killed? That seems to be the biggest issue in all this…

 

Do you know anything about the case and the circumstances involved outside of the actual shot? The assistant set director moved the angle of the shot due to the sun, wind, etc. The people behind the camera were originally out of the way, but when they moved the angle of the shot, they were all of a sudden in the way. The director will provide two cautions for which the shot will be done, the practice round, and the actual footage. That is the cue for the staff to get out of the way and apparently, they either didn't listen or assumed they were out of the way, which one wasn't. On top of that, the gun that was used had its firing mechanism altered, which could have contributed to the fatality. So, as you can see, a lot of things happened wrong that day. If everything went perfectly and everyone observed the safety protocols before the actual live scene was filmed, no one would have gotten hurt. And prior to all of this, the work staff were playing with the same gun with live bullets because some Yahoo staff members brought them to the set to begin with.

 

“Think beyond,” implies a willingness and ability to stretch one’s mind.

Hypocrites lack both.

 

when you hire professionals to fix your brakes, and they fail minutes after leaving the garage and one kills someone, is it attempted murder cause you did not check in detail the brakes before you started driving and find they made a error

this is a civil matter, not criminal

 

The 4 universal rules of gun safety are:
1. Treat all guns as if they are always loaded.
2. Never let the muzzle point at anything that you are not willing to destroy.
3. Keep your finger off the trigger until your sights are on target and you have made the decision to shoot.
4. Be sure of your target and what is behind it.

News has reported that Baldwin failed to attend gun safety training for the movie. I've some small background in this sort of thing. Teaching gun safety, family members in the movie business including working on westerns, some wearing or carrying guns as extras in various scenes.

All my life, and I'm an old guy, I've been taught that if you take a gun into your hand you are responsible for what happens when it fires. Doesn't matter if the gun was defective, as is now being reported. Doesn't matter if somebody told you the gun was empty. You take a gun into your hands, it is all on you. You control where it points. If it fires, wherever that bullet goes, whatever it ends up damaging, you own that.

So maybe in a court of law the case is now much too clouded to convict him of anything. Likely other people did things that led up to this happening. Takes nothing away from the wrong of Baldwin's actions, but I understand how the gun being defective makes it a messy thing to try and convict him in court.

But as far as I am concerned Alec Baldwin killed Halyna Hutchins and wounded Joel Souza. The gun did not do it, the human being holding the gun did it. Guns have no will, no soul, no means of making a choice. Baldwin made a choice to point a gun at another person. He broke all the rules, and a woman died and a man went to hospital with a hole in him.

I know it was unintentional, but he held the gun, he pointed it at her and she's dead.

So he is guilty of manslaughter, plain as day.

 

K. No doctor should ever trust sterilized equipment. No pharmacist should ever trust the drugs. No consumer should ever trust the food. Allocation of expertise should disappear.

Right?

 

exactly...

 

1. This is a prop gun and was loaded with dummy bullets, how on earth would Baldwin know it had a live round loaded unless he had x-ray vision?
2. The scene required him to point the gun in that direction.
3. Yes but he was playing a drunken wild west gunfighter, not a SWAT team member, I'm sure Doc Holiday kept his finger on the trigger.
4. He was never intending to fire and never pulled the trigger.

 

And that’s how someone gets shot. You ignore all the rules of gun safety.

 

No doctor should ever trust sterilized equipment. No pharmacist should ever trust the drugs. No consumer should ever trust the food. No anyone should ever trust anything.

Allocation of expertise should disappear. We all need to become chemists, engineers, mathematicians, etc.

Right?

 

There are some things you just don’t do. Ignoring the 4 rules is one.

He ignored every single one and someone is dead. The gun safety rules are there for a reason. This is the reason.

 

So when an actor in a movie or TV show points a gun at someone as directed for the filming of a scene they should treat the gun as if it is loaded? Why? Surely actors have to assume in that circumstance that the gun is NOT loaded or they can't act out the scene. I would have thought that was both fundamental & pretty obvious.

That is why there are specific people on set to oversee firearms - so that actors can point the gun confident in the knowledge it is safe to do so. It is the precise opposite of the normal rules for reasons I would have thought obvious to anyone without an agenda.

 

He’s the actor who takes the prop from the expert and uses it as instructed.
The pharmacist is the person who takes the drugs from bottles labeled by the experts and dispenses to clients.

Same/same.

 

You sure it's not "TWIST ones mind" I know the MSNBCNN, Hollywood and the DNC all teach their followers the technic.

 

No. There are 4 specific rules to prevent death when handling a firearm. They were all broken by Baldwin.

In the examples you keep trying to compare this to, they have rules to follow to prevent death as well. If they don’t follow the rules, someone can die.

 

That’s a lot of words to just say that in your opinion, a person being killed is the least of the issues that day. SMH.

 

Money, fixes everything but DEATH, the victim is hardly a memory now

 

It's the world we live in today.. When this happens in the home or real world, they sing a hole nother tune

Actors are special!

 

From what I've seen and read, Baldwin flat-out lied at least once to authorities about the shooting because he said he didn't pull the trigger, but the FBI analysts say that particular gun could not have been fired unless someone did pull the trigger. But a state like New Mexico has become completely Democrat blue over the years, and besides New Mexico always encourages big Hollywood productions to locate there. Don't bite the hand that feeds you, right?

 

You don't, you observe the but in a million years you never expect someone to give you a gun loaded with a real bullet.

 

Because you misinterpreted the word "least" was used in the context of the post. There was a lot of mistakes that day. The biggest and primary mistake was the other people handling the firearm away from the set who really weren't supposed to. That set everything else in motion that led to the fatal shooting.