Alex Youseff on Hookup Culture

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  1. FatBack

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    I think the biggest problem nowadays is most people are in love with their self.
     
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    Well, that is what happens when a leader is a role model
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    Trump has absolutely zero to do with this subject.

    Trump trump..... Everything, Trump trump
     
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    Since when has asking someone what site they got the incel information from a personal attack?
     
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    You do know the poster you were speaking to is a woman right?
     
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    Still could be getting information from an incel site
     
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    Actually, it is and has been for 30 years. It is a partnership in all senses of the word.

    Some people pay for it, and think they are in love.
     
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    I've no idea who that is or why their "insight" would be in any way relevant and could find anything obvious just searching the name. Since you've provided no references, I don't even know they even said what you're attributing to them.

    In general, this makes a whole load of factual claims without any basis. I specifically question "most women don't want to date most men.", "most guys are actually pushed away from dating" and "80% of guys being told that they are the villain in a story". There could well be some facts behind them, but the scale and specifics would need some support.

    It's also question the significance of "hook-up culture" on the ability of people to form relationships, given that a significant proportion of the population report being in some form of relationship, even younger ones. That doesn't even account for people who have been in relationships but happen not to be at the point they were asked. (https://www.statista.com/statistics/669122/americans-current-relationship-status-by-age/).

    The general feeling from this is of a man who tried dating in whatever is the specific way he believes it should work and didn't instantly find the perfect woman to fall in love with him. Rather than reconsidering his approach, he decided to blame everything and everyone else; "hook-up culture", "most women" and the few (in his opinion) men he perceives as being successful in dating. I personally don't like popularist political labelling as a rule, but the term "incel" has already been brought up in the thread.

    I don't deny that there are various issues and negative perceptions (often contradicting each other of course) within general society around dating and relationships but I think that has always been the case - it's just the nature of the issues constantly change. I question the scale of specificity of the problem suggested by this post though, and suggest that if such specific claims are going to be made, they need backing up with some (any!) evidential and logical basis.
     
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    LOL .. But you are partially correct.. I haven't f ****d anyone in decades, ..

    too busy making love to my wife.
     
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    Everyday... I have been studying it daily for the last 25 years now. So.. do you like meaningless sex? It's ok for awhile, I suppose, then you grow up and find you have just been selling off your soul bit by bit.
     
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    Most certainly at the top.. goes with that promise Satan made to humanity "you can be gods"; another one I identified over the years is that most people can't distinguish love from lust.
     
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    100% BS.... no wonder the English deported your kind.
     
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    Age old problem between men and women.. it is the natural urge of males to inseminate as many females as possible, women's problem is they want the dashing stud for his superior genetic traits, but need the dull old sod who will stay with her and support her and her children.
     
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    You were the one who brought up narcissism and since he is the poster boy for that……
     
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    Because we were too perspicacious?
     
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    They abstain from dating because videogames are more fun than real life... joking... maybe. I don't know, I feel like your story has a grain of truth to it, but is an extreme exaggeration. But there are definitely people who should focus more on improving themselves than dating, and not depend on relationships for happiness.

    That's not gay men, that's men in general. It just so happens that gay men only involve men, so when both sides are like that, well you get more promiscuous sex. Women are usually the ones putting the brakes on sex in dating. When men put the brakes on, it's a surprise.

    And it evolutionarily makes sense for the tendencies to be like this. Women need somebody who will be reliable to help them raise their child. Men invest less inherently, and so it's evolutionarily best for them to inseminate as many women as possible - even better if somebody else takes care of that child for them.
     
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    Yeah you have to get those morals after you get the wife.
     
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    I personally believe in an actual committed relationship. But hey if you want a plethora of STDs just go out and screw anything with a pulse that will hold still long enough
     
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    And remember, if she hooks up with you for your wallet, you certainly aren't the first one.

    When you get in your 40s +, it's time to leave those young girls alone and get yourself a woman who recognizes the signs of a stroke....:roflol:
     
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    Used to be that 20% of the men got 80% of the sex.

    It's worse than that now.

    This is simple, sad to say, a woman can get a hot guy in bed. But since a hot guy these days has his choice among a hundred or more, the odds of her marrying a hot guy are negligible.

    It was like that before, but it's worse now. Partly because there is a learning curve, and having few partners puts a real limit on how much an ordinary guy can learn.

    So when women stop crying into their rose', and feeling sorry for themselves, expect a lot of crappy marriages.

    I expect the kids that result will see that, and do something different.
     
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    I don't know why a guy would ever get married to a woman that is a lose-lose scenario. I think the major component Goliath amplified today is online dating. Every single one of these women I hear complaining about then are stuck to online dating and it's probably because they get to see more attractive men there. Are they all sort of share them. I'm reminded of Caleb from West elm. He was playing the game just like women do but they freaked out on him.
     
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    Yeah, and maybe Buddhism is the answer to poverty and decreasing standards of living.
     
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    It is not a toxic male culture it is a toxic female culture which is why more and more men are avoiding relastionships. Women have all the power through law and courts.

    Too many men have seen other men destroyed by divorce. Most divorces are filed by women and not for reasons of infidelity or abuse. The family courts are MASSIVELY biased against men.

    The only way to avoid it is don't let her get oo close. No marriage no cohabitation and protect your sperm at all costs so she can't hit you with support.
     
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    I know for a fact I could have a hareem of women if I wanted too.

    In periods when I'm single I tend to go through a lot of women. It's incredibly easy in this day and age.

    Women 100% want relationships in my experience. That's what they are aching for, even if they don't say it.

    After you start dating, having sex , forming a bond, you bet they want an exclusive relationship!

    Perhaps lockdown/isolation over COVID has made women incredibly thirsty or perhaps men as a whole have become such dorks in this day and age there isn't much competition?

    I digress personally I admit it I've even toyed with the idea of having multiple girlfriends that are all committed to me (totally doable), but In the end I tend to stick to conventional relationships where I'm absolutely faithful to the women I'm with.

    I like the cosy homely feeling that that brings, where life is simple. One where I can focus on my passions, a life where I'm not out there constantly trying to juggle women .


    Personally what has changed my perspective while in a relationship is that I know what's out there for me if the relationship ever failed.

    Basically I know my worth.
     
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    What does that have to do with toxic male culture?
     

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