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  1. Sallyally

    Sallyally Well-Known Member Donor

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    Obviously then, we are all doomed.
     
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    For myself, personally, I've worked for them and never trusted our government from the start. One of many things my father taught me was, "How do you know a politician is lying? Every time they open their mouths."

    From recent events, I think many people here in Aus are starting to wake up.
     
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    Sallyally Well-Known Member Donor

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    Welcome to the forum.

    I think that there is a majority of politicians who mean well.
     
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    Minority means well. They come into politics to change the world for the betterment of humanity, at least in their little corner of the world. As they rise through the ranks, they get bought, coerced, manipulated, blackmailed, converted & corrupted by those who 'pull' their strings and steer them onto a course of their agendas, such as lobbyists and up higher, which I'm sure the moderators will fry me for, should I mention who?
     
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    Dunno. We hear lots of stuff about corruption by big business etc, but I don’t think it’s so widespread.
    There are a few glaring examples from the last conservative govt. The man who ripped off the nickel mine workers, and the erstwhile water minister for example.
    I always felt a bit sorry for Peter Garrett. So well meaning but so naiive.
     
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    Yes, Peter Garret was scapegoated.

    The Liberal Government
    (One example, is what we had for the last round of garbage we civilised people call politics. Squeaky clean these people. NOT!):juggle: the closest thing I could find represents a circus.
     
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    Yep. Circus of crooks and “grifters”.
     
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    That's only obvious to you now?

    You must live in a very prosperous and quiet corner of the world.
     
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    The corruption is way further up the food chain.

    Talking to people locally about politics can be an exercise in frustration. Smart and switched on folk who haven't a clue what's being done to them, because all they see is their local 'personalities' and local publicly declared faux pas. None of this is about any of that.
     
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    They're all owned, at a certain point. They're all in service to the global corporatists and technocrats (though of course one ideology works a lot harder, for the megalomaniacs looking to seduce the proles into lifetime umbilical transfer of wealth). The little textures we see locally are effectively performative, and well placed to keep the eyes of the plebians off the bigger picture.
     
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    Yep, all top brass are owned to some extent. Either through bribes or blackmail.
     
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    I doubt they have to resort to such petty and grubby tactics. Most First World leaders know they'll be on the payroll going in. It's been decades since any were truly autonomous, and beyond the reach of the globalists.
     
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    Indeed.
     
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    Sallyally Well-Known Member Donor

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    I live in Victoria not NSW where corruption is endemic.
     
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    Geez, now that's a word I haven't heard in a long while.

    I thought Dashing Dan stole the honours from NSW. Yes, NSW is the anal & nanny state. What gives?
     
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    Dan is sea green and incorruptible like Robespierre compared with that pack of crooks in New South Wales.
     
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    Apart from some independents the lot of them are just a bag full butt holes.
     
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    Factoids

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_South_Wales
    The Colony of New South Wales was founded as a British penal colony in 1788.
    Thus a culture of criminality

    By 1850 the settler population of New South Wales had grown to 180,000, not including the 70,000 living in the area which became the separate colony of Victoria in 1851. . .

    A major obstacle to the federation of the Australian colonies was the protectionist policies of Victoria which conflicted with the free trade policies dominant in New South Wales.
    . .


    BTW Orange County, California
    was part of Los Angeles County until it split off.
    L.A. was Yankee veterans, O.C. more Confederate vets.



    Moi
    :oldman:


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    Yes.
     
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    Those of us that live in Aus, are gluttons for punishment. It's in our heritage.
     
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    Thank you. You're very gracious.

    Yes, I think they start off on with the best of intentions, but I also believe they become compromised by outside influences of varying types as they rise to more substantial positions, such as cabinet members who overlook any given portfolio(s).
     
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    Over the past 30 years I and began to take notice (putting it nicely) of politics, I observed the following.
    Whenever the Liberals were in, they would make a budget surplus. When Labor gets in, they spend up like a fat kid in a lolly shop. Recently, both parties are just the fat kid.
     
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    Liberals cut wages, taxes and working conditions. They like surpluses.
    Labour wants people to have adequate wages and working conditions.
    Work to live, not live to work.
     
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    That kind of has a socialist sentiment. But that is how I've perceived Labor.
     

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