Alternative facts world and coronavirus

The flu death rate is 0.1%, at least 10-times less than that of Covid19.

 

I doubt it can be contained when it spreads so easily and has symptoms that appear in so many other illnesses. There's a reason viruses like Ebola don't spread around the globe. You're deathly ill before you can get anywhere and spread it. COVID-19 is not nearly that virulent. I'd love the statistics from the cruise ship. The numbers can't be doctored by the Chinese government. It would be a great case study for how deadly the virus actually is.

The hysteria over this thing is puzzling.

 

My guess is that the death rate will be less than 2%. Why do I say that? The current death rate is calculated as (number of confirmed deaths/number of confirmed cases). I would assume that the number of actual cases is much larger than that of the confirmed cases, because many people don't even go to the doctor, because they think that it is a normal cold/flu. Or, they don't go because of fear of being stigmatized.

In any case, I find it odd that conservatives, who are normally driven by fear, collectively downplay the covid19 outbreak, almost the opposite to what they did during the recent Ebola outbreak. Then, they attacked Obama for not canceling ALL flights to Africa. I have only one answer: Fox news is preaching day and night that it is the Dem's and media's fault that people over-react.

 

When, if you lose, you are allowed to deny reality, it sure must be fun to bet half a million dollars.

 

Yep, exactly!

Once again, we see the folks at Fox News twisting everything into a partisan frenzy.

 

Well, if he loses, we'll never hear about that on the forum again .

 

If Bernie wins and the virus steps on the stage and grabs his mic, how will Bernie respond?

 

This is borderline obscene. Democrat politicians have been acting like this crap is the end of the world as we know it. And you accuse fox if hyping it? We know almost nothing about this crap other than what the Chinese are saying. We need more info before we go of half cocked for now Trump has responded exactly as he should have to an unknown, limit exposure, get a team of professionals from various agencies to deal with it

 

Cite just ONE Dem politician who acts like this is the end of the world as we know it? We'll wait.

 

Dem strategy for combating Corona:

Corona is racist. We need to infect more privileged classes in order to balance the equality of death outcome.

 

Schumer, Pelosi. There's two.

 

Life imitates art.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/20/us/coronavirus-racist-attacks-against-asian-americans/index.html

 

I Trust neither Trump nor any past administration nor any govt agency to tell me what is in the interest of my safety if such may undermine the functions of ordered society. I trust that the govt -any govt- will wait until its too late to tell me anything that serves my interest more than theres.

 

That depends on where you get your information, and how it applies. Death due to influenza is usually associated with pneumonia that it brings on. It also varies with the location and the level of medical care available there. It varies with health and age averages, and the people most likely to die will be older and have weaker immune and/or respiratory systems. Some reports from reliable sources like the CDC have recorded rates as high as 3% in epidemic areas. The issues with the Corona virus are also related to the lack of knowledge and effective treatments, because it is new and even the statistics are relatively crude. That is rapidly being improved, and as it does the mortality rate will drop.

One thing for sure- as one specialist in this said, "This is not ebola", referring to the relatively low risk by comparison, and the degree of panic we are seeing is disproportionate. It is an important problem, and nations all around the world are working on it, giving it far greater priority that threats of similar level usually get.

Of course, the opportunity to blame Trump for anything is never wasted, so we see that some are trying to make him responsible.

Perhaps you are not aware that one of the largest bio labs anywhere is located a few miles from the epidemic center.....
The Wuhan Institute of Virology is a research institute administered by the Chinese Academy of Sciences (CAS)

While it's no more than speculation, what do you suppose the odds are that this virus was born in that viral research lab and carried into the city accidentally?
Ponder that one for awhile; ask yourself if it's likely to be a coincidence that the epicenter and the government's biolab are in the same place, and what the odds on that are.

 

You are correct.
I had just posted a comment on the China role that would fit here- copied below:

Perhaps you are not aware that one of the largest bio labs anywhere is located a few miles from the epidemic center.....
The Wuhan Institute of Virology is a research institute administered by the Chinese Academy of Sciences (CAS) Some think it does bio-weapon research.
While it's no more than speculation, what do you suppose the odds are that this virus was born in that viral research lab and carried into the city accidentally?
Ponder that one for awhile; ask yourself if it's likely to be a coincidence that the epicenter and the Chinese government's biolab are in the same place, and what the odds on that are.

 

Not for nothing, but that's the nature of coincidences. They are coincident.

 

Coincidences do happen, but randomly, sometimes weirdly, and it's possible. But the proximity here between a unique new virus outbreak and a viral research lab being in the same location makes the probability of a relationship extremely high. Chinese are denying it of course.

 

Cite what they said.

 

It is also well know that more than a few Chinese factories in the region make have use of prison labor particularly political prisoners. That being the case it seems at least possible that this is little more than a particularly nasty way to cover up a bloodily suppressed revolt in a major manufacturing region. It is interesting to note that among the dead are the doctor that discovered it.

 

You didn't catch on the news the other day?

 

If that were the case then all pandemics would be more likely to ordinate near bio labs. They are not, statistically. Actually, it's the opposite.

 

Of course they aren't. Simple geography says they wouldn't be. This would be an accident, not a plan.

 

But we don't know if it's an accident.

If the lab was studying it, it's because it's endemic in a population of bats native to the region. I'll assure you, the bats are much less careful to cover their coughs.

 

What's US death toll?

 

So you are saying we don't know. Thought that was what I said.... just a coincidence?