American women not having babies

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  1. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Existence of cases of an effect that lacks a particular cause isn't really proof that there is no connection between that cause and effect.

    Let me give you an example. I hypothesize that a certain poisonous substance will cause death. You show me two dead bodies which you performed a test on and didn't find that substance in their blood stream, therefore you try to argue this means that substance does not cause death.
    That would obviously be completely absurd.

    The only thing that means is that there must exist other factors, besides (or in addition to) immigration that can also cause lower fertility rates.

    (Typically the two main causes of low fertility rates are very high cost of housing and overcrowding, combined with relatively high paying career opportunities for women. Absence of religion is another factor)
     
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    I've seen good evidence for lower fertility with increased education and career opportunities for women. Religion? Seems plausible and related. The others - haven't seen at all. Do you have data?
     
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    Think about it. If a woman is in a high cost of housing area, but where better career opportunity exists, she is faced with two choices.
    She can work and earn a high amount of money, which she will need to pay the expensive cost of housing. Or she can not work in a full time career, and then she will both be giving up being able to earn a high amount of money, and housing will be difficult because it is so costly in that area.

    Even though those two factors may sound at odds (earning more money and having greater expenses), it is still going to be hitting her doubly hard, if she decides not to work, compared to the situation in other areas. Her opportunity costs (the relative cost of not working compared to working, if she lives in that area) will be greater.

    Young people may be less likely to want to start a family if they cannot afford a house with enough room inside for children, and enough yard space outside.

    Another factor is higher paying career opportunity for women relative to career opportunity for men. This is especially the case as things have shifted more towards the "service economy". If the man she is with is not capable of earning much more money than her, then it will not make sense for her to stay in the home.
     
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    I am going to tell you as nicely as I can but you seriously need to STOP thinking about it. You need to look at some data, and I mean data from people and places that are NOT the usual suspects (esp. American usual suspects).

    I can tell you right now that you should reread LiveUninhibited posts 3 times each with a more open mind.

    All the "experts" blaming money are listening to the verbalized excuses made by childless people and those with fewer children. But those people are just parroting an excuse and don't even understand their own motives most of the time. And women? Women just freaking lie as a defense mechanism without a second thought. They are notoriously HORRIBLE for poll data concerning any female gender issue even when anonymity is assured. Not all are like that, but far too many to expect reasonable responses from them as a group.

    The proof? The poor unformally educated countries pop out babies like hot cakes and the women are genuinely happy having those kids. The rich formally educated countries are forgetting how to breed and the women do little more than complain and blame men for every headache and hangnail.
     
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    I truly hope see more postings from you. This forum could use ten more of your like. You are observing and incorporating that data depite what the talking heads say. Good show!
     
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    This is a problem for the debt and military. It will be a problem for Social Security as well. Shows we need to cut now and not later
     
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    One thing that never comes up and I doubt I will even bother to get too deep into it because people lose their damn minds and get the wrong idea.

    If it makes sense to any or not, I don't know. But I am not promoting any sort of abuse when I say this, but rather speaking AGAINST abuse. The age of consent has never been this high in human history, and the low birth rate is absolutely part of the law of unintended consequences resulting from it.

    At a very delicate time in their lives, teenage females are NOT feeling like they are "protected". The message they are getting is that they are dirty, nasty, and unworthy of love and affection....as every normal man looks at them with a few seconds of openness, then turns away with a cold expression of revulsion.

    This stays with them for the rest of their lives. For those few with the genetics to look underage despite being in their twenties, it is going to be even worse. All countries with high ages of consent are destroying their women from their teens. And like I say, people tend to get the wrong idea why I say so, and instead of thinking about it will instead turn to rage and accusation, as if I said something I did not....like the talking animals most people are.

    And so, I predict this abuse will continue, and the birth rates will drop even further when the age of consent rises to 21, as all the middle aged women no one wants anymore, want it to.

    Feminism brought us this. Feminism will destroy us.
     
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