America's descent into authoritarianism, and it's titular head is a mad man

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  1. Bullseye

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    Your "points" are as sharp as basketballs; I just deflate them.
     
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    Then I assume the goal post is this?

    "no president in history -- none -- has come even close to weaponizing the legal system the way Trump has."
     
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    It is, and Reality Winner and her story isn't, that is what i meant.
     
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    Biden's alleged crimes were committed before President. He would be covered by the Espionage Act, Trump's would be covered by the Presidential Records Act.
     
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    Reality Winner was part of the defense of your thesis that your AI generated for you. If you disagree maybe you should have actually read your own response and edited it rather than copy/paste your responses from a computer.
     
  7. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Deflate them? Hah, look at you, the Tom Brady of bad arguments!
     
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    No, because to harp on her, a very minor part of the overall point, would amount to pettifogging, which is a zippier word for moving the goal post.

    Not only that, your last comment is, in point of fact is as irrelevant as it is absurd, given the fact that, compared to yesteryear, we now drive in cars, use calculators, use computers, even, instead of paper letters, to communicate, and to feign some kind of righteous indignation over my use of AI, which I did not conceal, is rather hypocritical, as all it is is a tool of technology.

    And, correction, and it is a major one. AI did not create my 'thesis'. I told AI what the thesis was, and instructed it to find the data that corroborated it.

    However, I will temporarily suspend the above accusation, given that your syntax is rather chunky -- it's not clear if 'AI generated for you" refers to the defense, or the thesis. You should spend more time thinking about precisely what it is you want to communicate.
     
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    Ironic you'd say this last sentence as you continue to blather on and on about items that have no bearing on the official election result. "public support" is not an issue. The "win by public support" is a non sequitur. It's all desperation to avoid accepting the OUTCOME of the election which is the Electoral College result.

    I am staying on point which is the fact that Trump won the election as per constitutional process.
    I will continue to stay on that point. Your "point" seems to be more of a denial complex.
     
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    No irony here. :rolleyes:
     
  11. Patricio Da Silva

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    NO, you are changing the subject.

    Changing the point isn't being 'on point' it is changing the subject.

    When Biden won over Trump by a much larger margin than he won over Harris, did you reflect on your denial?

    No, of course you didn't, and it is irrelevant to the point.

    See, the fallacy you guys on the right are doing, is diverting every criticism, every legitimate criticism of Trump, into a 'Trump won, get over it'. argument.

    Did you do that when Biden won?

    No, of course not.

    You are, of course, being ridiculous,
     
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    Well, as you just claimed, if you are deflating my balls, then it is you who are the Tom Brady in this metaphor, not I.

    LOL
     
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    Huh? Are you twilighting on us?
     
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    Trump has made stupidity acceptable
     
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    LMAOROG, you are just being willfully deceitful, Cheeto isn't "covered" by it, it's simply a law saying GOV'T PROPERTY IS NO LONGER PRIVATE LIKE NIXON DID. Everything that's official Biz is simply US property, NOT private
     
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    Yeah, because Prez runs the economy? lol

    The biggest factor pushing up egg prices is a wave of avian flu, which began in early 2022 and led to the culling of millions of egg-laying hens. With demand remaining steady, the reduced supply has caused prices to rise.
     
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    Wow. You make it up as you need to. That means you know you're wrong
     
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    I didn't surrender. I ignored.
     
  20. Patricio Da Silva

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    We've addressed this point, before. Besides, he was VP and anything, on the administrative side of classification of documents that applies to the President applies VP. (see Executive Order 13526). However, as we shall see, below, even that is a moot point.
    The PRA is administrative, not criminal. Moreover, he wasn't president when he violated the Espionage act in Mar A Lago.

    No crimes covered by criminal law are superseded by administrative law. The Espionage act does not depend on any classification regime for it's degree of force, though such may be (or may not be) factored in, circumstantially, at the time of a crime's commission.

    So, IF Trump committed a violation of the Espionage act in the Mar A Lago docs case, it would not be superseded by the PRA, "IF' he were president at the time of the commission (which he wasn't, so the point is moot).

    So, you are incorrect on two levels, which is, of course, why I said yours wasn't a defense.
     
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    Your characterization is your meager attempt to glorify a paltry win which Trump should have won by a much larger margin given that his opponent had only three months to campaign. You guys on the right, of course, do this to feel better about electing a convicted criminal and adjudicated sex abuser.

    Truth hurts, I know, but at some point, you must swallow that bitter pill and own up to it.
     
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    History is replete with voters voting for a man who destroyed the country.

    But, Trump's margin of victory was a paltry 1.5%, so, your point doesn't exactly add up to bragging rights nor does it actually prove anything.
     
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    Nice cop out, which is, of course, a type of surrender.
     
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    1.5% or .000015%, a majority is a majority.

    So you are right and the majority is wrong. That is the way the democrats lost to start with.
     
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    I didn't say I was 'right', I said history is replete with the majority being wrong, so your point is meaningless, especially in face of the fact that Trump barely won, which diminishes your meaningless point even further.

    You need to stop putting words into my mouth.

    This isn't the first time you've done this.
     

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