And Yet People Defend Hamas

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  1. Zorro

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    HARVARD STUDENTS CANCEL THEMSELVES: A dozen CEOs back Bill Ackman’s call to not hire Harvard students who blamed Israel for Hamas attack.

    'Jonathan Newman, the CEO of salad chain Sweetgreen, was among a group of business honchos who seconded Ackman in urging that the signatories of the letter circulated by the a coalition of 34 Harvard student groups who “hold the Israeli regime entirely responsible for all unfolding violence.”'

    I wouldn't hire them.

    '“I would like to know so I know never to hire these people,” Newman wrote in response to Ackman’s post on X on Tuesday.'

    '“Same,” David Duel, CEO of healthcare services firm EasyHealth, wrote in response to Newman.'

    'The backlash and possible blacklisting has led to a flurry of backpedaling by four of the initial student organizations attached to the inflammatory statement — while board members of other groups have quit to distance themselves.'

    Might be too late.
     
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    Why is killing non-combatants and children, even babies, OK by missiles shot from miles away but not OK up close?
     
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    The 6 million dollar question.

    What they'll say is that the precision guided missile malfunctioned and it wasn't supposed to wipe out an entire family and babies.

    At least that was the official excuse in Libya, I'm sure they'll use it again here if it means staying out of jail.
     
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    Crimes against the Jewish people? I think crimes against all humanity too.
    Life is a bit like making stew. What we allow to be part of it affects the quality of life for all of us, and the only way to keep things healthy is to remove all the toxic elements.
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What is hard for me to comprehend......Progressives use the names of "Nazis and Hitler" often to condemn their opposition. Then at the same time, they turn around and embrace the actions of the last week in the name of "justification". We have brainwash centers called Universities that teach this type of logic. It is time Americans discover who our real enemies are in our midst! As a Nation of Judeo Christian morals we don't sensationalize war with acts of terror. We just remove them from the earth!
     
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    Perhaps you haven't seen all the hundreds of dying babies in Gaza from bomb inflicted wounds.

    I have...
     
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    And you think that is the same as a terrorist intentionally yanking a baby from it's crib and beheading it.

    Collateral damage from bombing is unavoidable, but the reports say Israel is issuing advance warnings of attacks.
    However to commit unspeakable atrocities intentionally and revel in it is far outside the range of reason or acceptance for any rational human being.
    Unfortunately, there are a lot of human beings who do not fit that description.

    Hamas made the rules of engagement when they orchestrated this attack-
    Annihilation.
     
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    Hamas and others like them, try to maximize collateral damage by hiding among non-combatants-including those who don't support their criminal actions. They are responsible for non-combatants being killed
     
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    Collateral damage?

    Hundreds of babies are dying because of the constant barrage and all you've got is "collateral damage"...

    S. M. H
     
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    Still waiting for the evidence for the 40 beheaded babies. It's all nonsense until they provide the evidence. Right now it's "The IDF stated to Insider that they would not investigate the allegation further, citing that it would be "disrespectful for the dead" to do so." giving them a free pass to lie or distort the truth. Do not investigate! Just trust! We know we fed you WMDs in Iraq and Assad's gas attack! But trust us again!
     
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    I find it interesting that the very people who call conservatives nazis are outing themselves, by their hatred of Jews as...nazis. I mean isn't Jew hatred kind of the textbook definition of "nazi "?
     
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    If you want to start a war don't complain about casualties.
    It would be like after Pearl Harbor the Japanese called the White House and said "Hold on! Don't get all upset, let's talk about this."
     
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    and whose fault is that? the IDF for retaliating against a disgusting attack against non=combatants? Or the vermin who hide among non-combatants. I damn the latter
     
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    That's an excellent point. I have been thinking of these war crimes as against the Jewish People, but you are right, they are crimes against humanity.

    THE ENEMY WITHIN: 'Rep. Rashida Tlaib is asked 10 times to condemn Hamas terrorism. She refuses to speak.'
     
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    All you've got is a blindfold.
    This battle began with Hamas atrocity. They opened the door, they put their own people at risk. Collateral damage is unintentional, one of the unfortunate side effects of all battles.

    Hamas slaughtering children IS intentional.
    Hamas hiding it's weapons and operations among civilians IS intentional.
    Hamas IS sacrificing Palestinian civilians intentionally- putting them squarely in the line of fire, in order to claim Israel is brutalizing civilians.

    Guess you never thought of that? Never looked, or never cared? Don't want to think about it? What?

    News report:
    Palestinian residents are claiming Thursday that Israeli planes have dropped flyers into Gaza with a message for them to leave their homes and head to "known shelters" or risk being harmed, a report says.

    "Anyone who is near Hamas terrorists will put their lives in danger," the flyers in the city of Beit Lahiya said, according to The Associated Press. "Adhering to IDF instructions will prevent you from being exposed to danger."
     
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    You mean when they tell the civilians to leave in advance because they're bombing a building filled with ammunition?
    When the Israeli's TELL you to leave because bombs are coming, you leave. Don't leave? You bear quite a bit of blame.
    Hamas likes to use human shields.

    Further: All these innocents elected Hamas in the first place, whose stated goal is genocide.
    They shelter these people. Feed them. Live with them.

    If they want the bombing to stop, they can turn over Hamas, recognize the two state solution as valid, apologize for abetting terrorists, acknowledge that if they start hostilities hostilities will be carried out against them, and affirm a commitment to peace.
    Don't do that? The bombings will continue.
     
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    Funny. I’m not sure of the fine print, but they are not wearing uniforms they are not protected by the Geneva Convention.
     
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    Surely they at least had an armband style uniform?

    Keeping military assets in a civilian structure is ALSO a warcrime.
     
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    What were they thinking:
     
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    Hundreds of babies are dying because of the constant barrage and all you've got is "collateral damage"...collateral damage is code for indiscriminate bombing campaigns.

    How you can support the massacres conducted by the IDF on the innocent women and children taking refuge in hospitals and refugee camps only to be targeted is quite frankly, no surprise at all.
     
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    A repeat of history... maybe people should've listened rather than drumming up wars continually.

     
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    We know the full history including the attempts by civil western states to compromise, appease, and give in to this barbarians and we know why they are engaged in their acts, to install a global Islamic rule.

    I don't care when they were born, I care they are the ones who install Hamas as their government in support of it's goals and we see what those are.

    They are a direct result of the terrorist group they elected to run their settlement and their support of their goals.

    Then they should ally with Israel to eliminate Hamas and Hezbollah and the Islamic Jihad.

    And the Jews and the rest of the west are all HUMANS and WE will not stand for this any longer.

    Oh geeez your history is so far off and to even consider the American Patriots to the Islamic Jihad so disgusting not even worth a comment
     
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    So- your solution is to let Hamas kill the Israeli people and children without reprisal or consequence because that wouldn't be nice? Is that right?

    Did you fail to read the reports of what happened when Hamas attacked Israel?

    Do you fail to understand that Hamas is putting the Palestinian people in the line of fire intentionally, like cannon fodder? Literally, using their own civilians, women and children- as human shields?

    Or- does that just make good sense to you?
     
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    I failed as much as you failed to see Israeli govt putting kibbutz after kibbutz in the line of fire, one mile from THE VERY PRISON WALL THEY BUILT. literally using their own women and children as the first line of defence. Do you think that is a good strategy by the Israeli govt?
     
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    Maybe it has to do with the fact that side you support starting the killing first.
     
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