Another left wing claim against Ivermectin bites the dust.

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  1. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    You are. Your sources are too. And, the worst part, neither is aware that they are doing it.

    Shame on them!
     
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    Now there is a perfect example of a "Shut them up" if I have ever seen one :roflol::thumbsup:
     
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    The point I'm making is that if any one cares to check the actual recording the drug it does appear to have some efficacy for viral infection and has been used for both humans and animals for decades. Now the only question is whether the dosage recommended for humans is high enough to impact covid. Since the CDC won't approve such testing in no small part because way to many people, some of them working for the CDC, are making way to much money off the currently approved treatment.
     
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    All this doesn't explain why the science behind vaccines is suddenly not sound? It's entire purpose is to strengthen your immune system against this specific virus. And I swear to christ if any of my fellow conservatives give me some bullshit about global conspiracy I'm gonna bite back hard.

    So what is the worry regarding the vaccines?
     
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    Ya I read that :nod::thumbsup:
     
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    I wouldn't necessarily read that as true. I don't have an issue with it being from Rolling Stones or if it was a left or right slant.

    The AMA and FDA are doing their best to keep people informed and take care of those of us who get sick. Even if the claim was absolutely true, they wouldn't admit it. They can't. We'd have millions and millions of people in a panic.

    I know for a FACT the facts surrounding some information that has been submitted in press releases (during the time I was a police officer and a child abuse advocate) aren't true. As a business consultant, I saw it all the time. And, once you know something like that, you can't unknow it and, for me, that makes them all suspicious.

    ETA: https://www.npr.org/sections/corona...verdose-exposure-cases-poison-control-centers


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    Unless it's a very small hospital in a rural area, I don't see how these kind of numbers would cause most hospitals to "overflow".
     
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    Not global, this was stupidity of one country and one country alone! The rest of the world were simply VICTIMS..
     
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    Speaking of retracting... did you retract from that Hydroxychloroquine Rudy Giuliani nonsense that you promoted again and again some time ago? Did Rudy Giuliani?

    Retracting when you make a mistake is a good thing. Doing it quickly is even better. NOT retracting is what is truly shameful. Especially when what you are promoting can cost lives.
     
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    Yes, but the vaccines are way better for what really matters.

    New York (CNN Business)The imminent authorization of Pfizer's Covid-19 vaccine in the United States is a momentous occasion for science, the economy and humanity. The milestone is also a major moneymaker for the companies that developed the vaccines.

    Wall Street analysts are projecting Pfizer and Moderna will generate $32 billion in Covid-19 vaccine revenue -- next year alone.
    That doesn't take into account the goodwill boost these companies will receive by helping to end the worst pandemic in a century. That boost is magnified for Moderna (MRNA), a young biotech company that few people had heard of before 2020 that could now be on the cusp of getting its own FDA authorization.
    Pfizer (PFE) by itself is projected to haul in $19 billion in Covid-19 vaccine revenue in 2021, according to Morgan Stanley. That's on top of an estimated $975 million in 2020 vaccine revenue.”
    CNN, Pfizer and Moderna could score $32 billion in Covid-19 vaccine sales -- in 2021 alone, By Matt Egan, CNN Business, Fri December 11, 2020.
    https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/11/business/pfizer-vaccine-covid-moderna-revenue/index.html
     
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    Still going with that false assertion?
     
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    So when was the last time we/world had to cure a manufactured pathogen never found "Currently" on any animal or human on the planet?
     
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    What nonsense! We have NO studies on ivermectin's long term consequences on humans. And we know EVERYTHING we need to know about the covid vaccines long term consequences. i.e. NONE!

    I say again, this belongs in the conspiracy theory. Spreading disinformation about a potentially deadly disease is dangerous enough. But promoting a drug that could poison people is outright despicable and should be criminal.
     
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    Oh this was likely something that escaped a lab however...this has nothing to do with the vaccine.
     
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    We have decades of information on Ivermectin. It is a known and very safe drug.
     
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    I’ve not. So you’re wrong there. So you appear to not know that Ivermectin has been used for humans (including winning a Nobel Prize for it in 2015). It’s track record for safety is fine.

    How you could get anyone, knowing the facts, to believe that tripe is a mystery.
     
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    Lancet and the NEJM were both caught publishing a paper based on fudged data and forced to retract - after the clinical trails regarding HCQ were stopped. Funny how that works. ;-)

    "The journal’s editor, Richard Horton, said he was appalled by developments. “This is a shocking example of research misconduct in the middle of a global health emergency,” he told the Guardian."
    THE GUARDIAN, Covid-19: Lancet retracts paper that halted hydroxychloroquine trials, By Sarah Boseley Health editor, June 5, 2020.
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...s-paper-that-halted-hydroxychloroquine-trials
     
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    How do you figure? I never even heard of Ivermectin until COVID?
     
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    This is only one hospital.
     
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    It doesn't get much more absurd than people complaining about the vaccines not being as thoroughly tested as they could be and therefore refusing to take them, but then turning around and endorsing or even personally taking an antiparasitic drug (a horse dewormer) not at all tested or approved for treating any viral infection in humans.

    I can only guess that the trolls promoting it are laughing their asses off at anyone who takes them seriously.
     
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    Got to hold onto the lie somehow eh?
     
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    the liberal media once again is caught spreading lies fake news
    and you expect people to keep believing them even if they pass on legit info?

    the liberal media with their fake news are a danger to society because they have destroyed the reputation of all news broadcasting and now no one with any common sense will believe them even if what they share is true

    it is the same is if a weatherman keeps wrongly predicting where a hurricane will hit and need to evacuate and he gets it wrong over and over
    and the one time he is right and it does hit where he says but no one evacuated because he was so wrong every other time and hundreds die
     
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    There is far more money to be made :) I read where the vaccines are not cutting it and there is and oral "Forever" treatment that will be taken twice a day for however long it takes people to realized how stupid big pharma see's them as ;)
     
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    Neither have I but why would I opt for a horse drug to that of a vaccine that's built on the tech of previous vaccines that's designed specifically for this virus. Is peer reviewed with multiple studies and which seems to be extremely safe based on the billions of have taken it now?

    What is the logic against taking the vaccine and instead opting for a drug designed to deworm horses?
     
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    Wrong again. We have a decade of evidence with Ivermectin as an anti-viral. It has been used very successfully against Covid in India and Mexico. You are pushing misinformation.
     
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    Big pharma also makes the horse drug. So you are not sticking it to the drug companies here.
     

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