Any clear proof that no one has ever landed on the moon?

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    It takes woeful ignorance of the Apollo program and a personal bias against believing it to develop and maintain a belief in a hoax.
     
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    well there is a blanket of radiaton that makes it impossible to get outside of the earths atmosphere without considerable damage to a human or any living creature.....and i KNOW that in 1969 those space suites were not filled with a lead like shield to protect them....something similar to when you place a lead mat over your toursel when you get a mouth xray....
     
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    how did they make it thru the blanket of radiation??
     
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    The CSM was enough to shield them from any 'radiation' during their brief time in the belts...
     
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    The anomalies in the video and the pictures have already proven that the missions were faked. The radiation issue isn't about whether they faked it. It's about why they had to fake it. There's some alternative info on space radiation at the bottom of this post.
    http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4001964&postcount=1

    Back before internet when I'd never heard about space radiation and hadn't seen the anomalies, I used to think they probably did go to the moon. I figured that, since they could go several miles under the surface of the ocean, going into the vacuum of space wouldn't be much more difficult. Of course now I now they didn't go because of the anomalies. If space radiation is considered, the idea that they faked it makes perfect sense. If space were radiation-free, they probably could have really gone to the moon.

    All we have is what we read about space radiation. The only people who know for sure are people with high security clearances who can see the actual data collected by probes. The government lies to the people about so much stuff that the idea that they're lying about the nature and levels of space radiation shouldn't surprise anyone. Here's some stuff about how the US government lies to the people in case there are any young teenagers viewing.
    http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4731597&postcount=1087
     
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    For once,tell the truth,scott/cosmored/fatty88,they haven't 'proven' a thing....It's all about why YOU think the missions were faked...
     
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    All the "anomalies" have shown me is that kooks have a hard time interpreting photographs and video. They have no experise in examining such evidence, yet they become instant experts (in their own minds) when they decide to do this.

    :rolleyes: Maybe you should try examining Apollo mission data and listening to what scientists and engineers have to say about these things instead of relying on your fellow uneducated, half-insane woowoos to tell you what's what.
     
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    Read up on Faraday cage...
     
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    Here's a guy with a PH.D who thinks the moon missions were faked.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kx3YcQhdDps
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ij9BHiaC4t0
    http://www.google.es/#hl=es&sclient...pw.r_qf.&fp=26b7c9576385d2e6&biw=1280&bih=856

    http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4001964&postcount=1

    I keep posting this info as a rebuttal to that argument...
    http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4731597&postcount=1087

    ...and you people keep playing dumb about it.
    http://www.opposingdigits.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1222
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    9. Play Dumb. No matter what evidence or logical argument is offered, avoid discussing issues with denial they have any credibility, make any sense, provide any proof, contain or make a point, have logic, or support a conclusion. Mix well for maximum effect.
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    Thing is Scott/cosmored/fatty88,you offer neither evidence OR a logical argument.....all you DO have is your flawed opinion
     
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    Listen toward the end of part 1 (after the 59:00 mark). Your Dr. Rorke character states explicitly that he does not hold that view, but rather is questioning what he calls "anomalies in the Apollo record." He even says "there's every opportunity that we did go to the moon" at one point.

    In fact, throughout the show, this "doctor" is simply referring to arguments from nuts like Rene and Hogland, and doesn't sound too knowledgeable about these matters himself. A caller even corrects him (which he gracefully accepts) on the matter of where an impacting probe struck the lunar surface. That was in the 52:00-53:20 range. This Dr. Rorke guy simply sounds uninformed and confused, and easily led astray by those certain-sounding clowns who have published books such as "NASA Mooned America."

    Cosmored, you really have a screw loose if you believe these guys.

    Takes one to know one. :twocents:
     
  13. Scott

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    David Groves has some credentials.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6MvcIs4OcQ

    Bill Wood has some credentials.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKainIQiaKA
    (2:20:10, 2:21:39, 3:3:00, 3:15:30, 3:19:17, 3:27:24 time marks)

    http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Moon_Hoax
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    Major Moon sceptics
    Some of the most notable Moon sceptics are listed below.

    Bill Kaysing
    William Charles Kaysing (1922–2005), American writer and head of technical publications (1957–1963) at Rocketdyne, makers of the F-1 Saturn V first stage engine.[177] He wrote the book "We never went to the Moon" with Randy Reid in 1974.[39][101](ch. 17)[178]

    Kaysing stated that the chance of a successful Moon landing was calculated to be 0.0017% in a late 1950s Rocketdyne report,[146] and that the F-1 rocket engine had combustion stability problems.[39](p. 9)[179] He said that the Saturn V rockets took off without astronauts on board, suggesting a "coalition between governments at the highest level" to conceal, among other things, the Moon hoax.[178]

    Bart Sibrel
    Bartholomew Winfield Sibrel (b. 1965),[180] American filmmaker and investigative journalist who made the following documentary films:[181]

    1.A funny thing happened on the way to the Moon (2001)[182]
    2.Astronauts Gone Wild (2004)[183]
    3.Apollo 11 press conference (2004)[184]
    4.Apollo 11: Monkey business: False photography unedited (2004)[185]
    5.Apollo One accident report (2007)[186]
    Sibrel says that "a successful manned mission to the Moon offered a wonderful, pride-boosting distraction for the near revolt of the citizens of America over 50,000 deaths in the Vietnam War",[187] with lunar activities stopping abruptly and planned missions cancelled around the same time that the USA ceased its involvement in Vietnam.[188]

    In his film "Astronauts gone wild" (see above), Sibrel asked nine Apollo astronauts to swear on the Bible that they went to the Moon. Three of them did.[189] Apollo 11 lunar module pilot Buzz Aldrin did not. Sibrel called him "a coward and a liar and a thief"[81] but got a punch in the face.[69][180][190]

    Stanislav Pokrovsky
    Dr Stanislav Georgievich Pokrovsky (b. 1959)[191] is a Russian candidate of technical sciences and General Director of the scientific-manufacturing enterprise "Project-D-MSK".[192]

    In 2007, he studied the filmed staging of the first stage (S-IC) of the Saturn V rocket after the launch of Apollo 11.[193] Analysing it frame by frame, he calculated the actual speed of the Saturn V rocket at S-IC staging time using four different, independent and mutually verifying methods. With all of them, the calculated speed turned out to be at maximum half (1.2 km/s) of the declared one at that point (2.4 km/s). He concluded that due to this, no more than 28 t could be brought on the way to the Moon, including the spacecraft, instead of the 46 t declared by NASA, and so a loop around the Moon was possible but not a manned landing on the Moon with return to the Earth.[194][195][196][197]

    In 2008, Pokrovsky also claimed to have determined the reason why a higher speed was impossible—problems with the Inconel X-750 superalloy used for the tubes of the wall of the thrust chamber of the F-1 engine,[198] whose physics of high-temperature strength was not yet studied at that time. The strength of the material changes when affected by high temperature and plastic deformations. As a result, the F-1 engine thrust had to be lowered by at least 20%. With these assumptions, he calculated that the real speed would be the same as he had already estimated (see above). Pokrovsky proved that six or more F-1 engines (instead of five) could not be used due to the increased fuel mass required by each new engine, which in turn would require more engines, and so on.[196][197][199][200]

    Pokrovsky claims that his Saturn V speed estimation is the "first direct proof of the impossibility of the Apollo Moon landing".[192] He says that fifteen specialists with scientific degrees (e.g. Alexander Budnik)[201] who reviewed his paper, of which at least five aerodynamics experts and three narrow specialists in ultrasonic movement and aerosols, raised no objections in principle, and the specific wishes and notes they (e.g. Vladimir Surdin)[202] did have could not change his results significantly even if followed.[203][204] Pokrovsky compares his own frame-by-frame analysis of the filmed Saturn V flight to the frame-by-frame analysis of the filmed Trinity nuclear test (1945) done by the Soviet academician Leonid Sedov who created his own blast wave theory to estimate the then top secret power of the explosion.[205]

    See also author's note below.[206] Pokrovsky's findings about the rocket speed were later confirmed by Alexander Reshnyak and Alexander Popov (see below) and his smoke lag method proven to be valid.[207]

    Alexander Popov
    Dr Alexander Ivanovich Popov (b. 1943) is a Russian senior research associate, doctor of physical-mathematical sciences, and author of more than 100 scientific works and inventions in the fields of laser optics and spectroscopy.[208]

    Helped by more than forty volunteers, most of which with scientific degrees,[209] he wrote the book "Americans on the Moon" (2009).[210][211] In it, Popov placed the burden of proof on NASA,[209] and denied all Moon landing evidence, dividing it to five groups:

    1.Visual (photo, film and video) material that can successfully be made on Earth, in cinema studios.
    2.Obvious counterfeits and fakes, when visual material from ordinary space flights on Earth orbit is presented as Moon material.
    3.Space photos, attributed to the astronauts but which by that time could already be made and were made by space robots, including American ones.
    4.Devices on Moon (e.g., light reflectors)—by that time both American and Soviet automatic "messengers" had sent on Moon several tens of similar devices.
    5.Unfounded, unprovable claims, e.g., for about 400 kg of soil, overwhelming part of which NASA keeps safe and gives only grams for checking.
    Thus he concluded that the NASA claims on Moon landings are left unproven, and pursuant to science rules, in the absence of trustworthy evidence, the event, in this case the American Moon landings and their loops around the Moon, cannot be considered real, that is, having taken place.[13] He also confirmed Pokrovsky's results for the speed of the Saturn V at S-IC staging time (see above).[212][213] Popov accused the Politburo of the CPSU Central Committee of trading the 1970s Détente for covering up the US Moon hoax and stopping the Soviet Moon programme.[214]

    Yuri Mukhin
    Yuri Ignatievich Mukhin (b. 1949), Russian opposition politician, publicist, writer, engineer, metallurgist, manager, and inventor. Author of the books "The Moon affair of the USA" (2006)[215] and "A Moon affair" (2009),[84] and the film "Maximum lies and nonsense" (2010).[216] In his works, he examines the differences between the Soviet and US lunar soil found out by Western researchers, refutes the NASA defenders' arguments, and accuses the US government for plundering the taxpayers' money for the Moon programme. Mukhin states that the Politburo of the CPSU Central Committee was blackmailed by the USA that if the USSR denounces the Moon hoax, the US will denounce the Soviet partocracy before his people, revealing that Khrushchev had killed Stalin and Beria.[84](pp. 124–126)

    Other Moon sceptics
    H.E. Dr Hugo Chávez Frías (b. 1954), the President of the Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela.[33][34]
    Prof. Dr Krassimir Ivanov Ivandjiiski (b. 1947), Bulgarian doctor of economics and professor in geopolitics and international relations.[217] He is the editor of the monthly analytical newspaper "Strogo sekretno" ("Top secret"), which published a series of ten articles on the Moon Hoax, based on the ideas of Alexander Popov (see above) and Arkady Velyurov (see below) in 2007–2008[218] and started a new series in 2010.[219]
    Prof. Dr Li Zifeng, Chinese geologist, member of the Society of Petroleum Engineers and the Petroleum Society of Canada.[220][221]

    continued...
     
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    Prof. Dr Takahiko Soejima (b. 1953), Japanese political scientist and writer, member of the International Political Science Association, founder and president of the Soejima National Strategy Institute, and author of the book "1962–1972: Apollo 11 has never been to the Moon" (2004).[222]
    Prof. Federico Martín Maglio (b. 1959), Argentinian higher educator and "FMM education" site owner.[223]
    Prof. James M. McCanney, American physicist, lecturer, writer, radio show host, and "J. McCanney science" site owner.[224]
    Prof. Luke Sargent, American historian, professional violinist, and "Fake Apollo" site owner.[225]
    Dr David Groves, British physicist and holographic computer image analyst. Analysing NASA photo AS11-40-5866,[226] knowing the focal length of the camera's lens, and having an actual boot, he and David Percy (see below) calculated (using ray-tracing) that an artificial light source is 30 ± 6 cm to the right of the camera.[66](35:14–36:46)[227][228][229]
    Dr Marco Stefanelli, Italian PhD in Indovedic psychology, analyst-programmer, Web engineer, painter, Reiki Usui alternative medicine practitioner, researcher, audio engineer, sound designer, composer, multi-instrumentalist, and same-named site owner.[230]
    Dr Neville Thomas Jones, British physicist and "Reality reviewed" site owner.[96]
    Dr Sergey Andreevich Alexeenko, Russian inventor, candidate of physical-mathematical sciences, Honorary builder of the Baikonur and Plesetsk space launch facilities, member of the Federation of Cosmonautics of Russia, and nuclear weapon test participant.[231][232]
    Dr Shrikant N. Devdikar, Indian medical doctor and "Shriworld" site owner.[233]
    Dr William L. Brian II, American engineer and writer.[234][235] He says that "the film speed was adjusted to slow down the action to give the impression that the astronauts were lighter than they actually were".[236]
    Abhay Charanaravinda Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupāda (1896–1977), the founder of the International Society for Krishna Consciousness.[36]
    Alexander Garrievich Gordon (b. 1964), Russian radio and TV host, journalist, actor, and filmmaker. Author of the film "The Americans haven't been on the Moon" (1997).[18]
    Alexander Valeryevich Reshnyak (b. 1973), Russian engineer[237] who confirmed Pokrovsky's results on the Saturn V speed (see above) using a method of his own.[238]
    André F. Mauro (b. 1964), Brazilian filmmaker and writer, author of the book "O homem não pisou na Lua" ("Man did not set foot on the Moon"), and "Show da Lua" site owner.[4][239]
    Anne Tonelson (d. 2006), British stage actress who lived in Nashville and narrated the documentary film "A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Moon" by Bart Sibrel (see above).[240]
    Anup Raj Shrestha, Nepalese software developer and "Big Mantra" site owner.[11]
    Arkady Velyurov, Russian "Pepelatsy" site owner.[241]
    Aron Ranen, American filmmaker. His documentary film "Did we go?" (co-produced with Benjamin Britton) was selected for the 2000 "New Documentary Series" Museum of Modern Art, New York City, the 2000 Dallas Video Festival Awards, and the 2001 Digital Video Underground Festival in San Francisco. He received a Golden Cine Eagle and two fellowships from the National Endowment for Arts.[189][242]
    Bill Wood, American scientist with degrees in mathematics, physics and chemistry, and a space rocket and propulsion engineer who has worked with McDonnell Douglas and engineers who worked on the Saturn V rocket. He attended David Percy's documentary film "What happened on the Moon?" (see below).[66](17:20–18:15)
    Borislav Lazarov, Bulgarian radio host, journalist and author of the documentary film "To the Moon and back" (2007).[243][244]
    Bruce Mitchell Nash (b. 1947), American writer and reality TV producer.[67][68]
    Charles T. Hawkins (b. 1962), American writer whose book "How America faked the Moon landings" (2004) presents the ideas of Sam Colby (see below).[245][246][247]
    Clyde Lewis (Louis Clyde Holder, born 1964), American radio talk show host.[24]
    David Cosnette, British "Cosmic Conspiracies" site owner.[229]
    David McGowan (b. 1960), American writer, contractor-constructor, and "Centre for an Informed America" ("CIA") site owner.[248]
    David P. Wozney, Canadian tax specialist.[249]
    David R. Hook (1971–2006), Canadian comedian, musician, and author of "The Moon song".[250]
    David S. Percy, British TV producer, audio-visual technology expert, member of the Royal Photographic Society, coauthor (with Mary Bennett—see below) of the book "Dark Moon" (2001),[65] and director of the documentary film "What happened on the Moon?" (2000).[66] He says that NASA photos have so obvious flaws that they prove that insiders tried to "blow the whistle" on the hoax by purposely adding errors they know will be seen.[251][252][253]
    Eric Hufschmid, American software engineer[254] and same-named site owner.[255]
    Gerhard Wisnewski (b. 1959),[256] German publicist and author of the films "Die Akte Apollo" ("The case Apollo", 2002)[257] and "Die Mond(f)lüge: Warum Menschen niemals auf dem Mond landeten?" ("Why have men never landed on the Moon?", 2008),[258] and the books "Lies in space"[259] (in German) and its English version—"One small step?".[260][261]
    Gernot L. Geise, German writer, author of "Der größte Betrug des Jahrhunderts? Die Apollo-Mondflüge" ("The greatest scam of the century? The Apollo Moon flights")[262] and five other books on the subject.[263]
    Henrik Melvang, Danish publicist, author of the video documentary film "Afsløring Apollo" ("Uncovering Apollo")[264]
    Henry Kubik, Polish-Australian electronic music composer, lyricist, performer, sound engineer, and producer.[265]
    Ivona Živković, Serbian journalist and TV star.[138][266]
    Jack White, American photo historian, photo analyst, and expert on the assassination of US President John Kennedy.[267]
    Jackie Jura, independent Canadian researcher and "Orwell Today" site owner.[268]
    James Beals, American "Future Sun" site owner.[38]
    James J. Cranny, American mathematician and author of the first book on the subject—"Did man land on the Moon?" (1970).[17][18](2:52–3:03)
    James M. Collier (d. 1998), American journalist, writer, and author of the film "Was it only a paper Moon?" in 1997, in which he examines some mechanical issues of the Apollo Lunar Module, questioning its usability.[269][270]
    Jarrah White, native Australian, author of the film series "MoonFaker".[189][271]
    Jean-Luc Godard (b. 1930), French-Swiss filmmaker.[272][273]
    Jiří Wojnar, Czech writer, journalist, and editor of the "WM" magazine who published a Czech translation of Sam Colby's work (see below) in 2004.[274][275]
    Joe Rogan (b. 1967), American comedian, actor, and summariser.[276]
    John Lee, American "NASA moons USA" site[277] owner whose film "We Never Went to the Moon" received the "Music Video of the Year" award in 2005.[278]
    Kazimierz Ożóg, Polish "Market analysis" site owner.[279]
    Kenneth Lee Vardon (b. 1939), American Navy veteran, radioman, cryptographer, businessman, consultant, and founder of the American Patriot Friends Network.[280][281]
    Kevin Overstreet, American "Bates Motel" site owner.[282]
    László Aranyi, Hungarian same-named site owner and translator of Sam Colby's pages (see below).[283]
    Lauri Leinonen, Finnish sheep farmer, web designer, and "Lampuri" site owner.[284]
    Leonid Valentinovich Batsura, Russian "Himmash" design house lead engineer and rocket engine specialist.[285][286]
    Marcus Allen, British photographer, image analyst, and publisher of Nexus magazine who said that Lunar Module photos do not prove that the US put men on the Moon: "Getting to the Moon really isn't much of a problem—the Russians did that in 1959—the big problem is getting people there".[139][287][288]
    Mario Kienappel, German "Esoturio" site owner.[289]
    Marwa Rizk, Egyptian journalist and columnist of the "Moheet" on-line daily.[290]
    Mary D. M. Bennett, British researcher and writer who coauthored David Percy's book "Dark Moon"[65] and attended his documentary film "What happened on the Moon?"[66] (see above).[291]
    Michael Palomino, Swiss musician, writer, and "Geschichte in Chronologie" ("History in chronology") site owner.[292]
    Pasi Toivonen (b. 1970), Finnish "Cutting edge Finland" site owner.[293]
    Peter Bown, English senior school physics teacher and part time photographer.[294]
    Philippe Lheureux, French author of the books "Moon Landings: Did NASA lie?" and "Lumières sur la Lune" ("Lights on the Moon"), and same-named site owner.[295]
    Ralph René (1933–2008), American inventor, self-taught engineering enthusiast, and author of the book "NASA mooned America" (1994).[2]
    Randy Reid, American coauthor of Bill Kaysing's book "We never went to the Moon" (see above).[39]
    Ronnie Stonge, British narrator of David Percy's documentary film "What happened on the Moon?" (see above).[66]
    Sam Colby, British "NASA Scam" site[296] owner which, among the other things, provides information and photos of the site and the equipment said to be used for the hoax.[174][297]
    Satsvarūpa dāsa Goswāmī (b. 1939), Indian writer, poet, artist, and guru of the International Society for Krishna Consciousness.[37]
    Victor Pavlovich Friedman (b. 1970), Russian writer who lived in the USA (1991–2002) and translated René's book (see above) to Russian.[298]
    Whoopi Goldberg (Caryn Elaine Johnson, born 1955), American actress, comedian, singer-songwriter, activist, and media personality.[299][300]
     
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    Ralph René (1933–2008 ), American inventor, self-taught engineering enthusiast, and author of the book "NASA mooned America"

    Whoopi Goldberg (Caryn Elaine Johnson, born 1955), American actress, comedian, singer-songwriter, activist, and media personality.


    Meanwhile, people who are actually educated in the sciences, and of course those who were involved in the Apollo missions enough to understand all that went into them, know that there was no fakery involved. Those of us with a modicum of intelligence and sense know it, too.

    You were on the BAUT forum at one point, right? Just as you have been on Pravda and even the lowly Cornfield, seems to me. You must go to every forum you can find and post this paranoid nonsense.
     
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    Hugo Chavez is a moon hoaxer?........very fine company you keep,scott/cosmored/fatty88
     
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    It was my understand NASA has colour digital photography available in 1969, but elected to use monochrome basic photography with all its manned space flights, including 1969.

    I am an amateur photographer, but if you asked me to snap a few hundred photos; I’m sure I would be able to get at least 30 that were in focus and recognisable, but it would seen the astranaughts during the 1969 mission couldn’t even get ONE in focus. LOL

    Even an amateur holding a camera up to a piece of night sky and counting to 10 will show a smeared start or patch of stars - quite sure these professional could have done the same if not better considering their elite training. LOL

    It make me wonder why the USA decided to download all the photos, movies camera playback, and radio information from the 1969 moon landing to a little known radio astronomy telescope based in Australia, rather than using a more advanced bigger radio telescope at their disposal, like the Lovell observatory at Cheshire England.

    Every bit of information the world received about the 1969 moon landing was transmitted from the centre at Parkes in Australia.

    Maybe in 1969, it was easier for the US to manipulate a five man Australia crew working in Parkes, and a little country with limited international experience; rather than trying to get England to keep the secret.

    If the Hubble telescope can take quality time lapse photos of other Galaxies and other planets in out solar system; surely its possible for it to take a photo of the moon Lander or flag on the moon?

    Surely one or two basic photos would put the conspiracy to rest once an for all.
     
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    Really? Color digital photography in 1969? Wow! You better go out and update wikipedia then because they claim the first digital picture was black and white and taken in 1975 with a chip designed in 1973.

    BTW, most of the pictures are in color.

    Really? Here are all the pictures from all the Apollo missions. Sure seems to me that most of them are in focus and recognizable.

    Why would they try to just take pictures of stars? You can see stars from Earth. They were taking pictures of the moon.

    Wow. This is just ignorant. They used the Australia radio equipment when the moon was not in sight of any other radio equipment.

    You should really read up on the subject. You're embarassing yourself.

    Or maybe some people are so woefully ignorant of what happened that they make fools of themselves by pretending they know what happened and then draw seriously asinine ASSumptions

    The Hubble telescope is designed to view distant stars, not the moon. Educate yourself.=

    Nope. Hoaxers just claim the pictures are faked.
     
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    You mean like these ones (incidentally, also note the in-focus colour photo from Apollo 16)?

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-19050795
     
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    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

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    Those are from the Lunar Reconaissance Orbiter, of course, not Hubble. Hubble can't resolve the Apollo artifacts on the lunar surface. While that may seem counter-intuitive to laypersons, that is the reality.
     
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    It is my understanding that Digital camera technology is directly related to and involved the same technology that recorded television images. In 1951, the first video tape (VTR) captured live images from television cameras by converting the information into electrical impulses (digital) and saving the information onto magnetic tape. Bing Crosby laboratories (the first research team funded by Crosby and headed by engineer John Mullin) created the first early VTR and by 1956, VTR technology was perfected (the VR1000 by Charles P. Ginsberg and the Amex corporation) and in common use by the television industry. Both television/video cameras and digital cameras use CCD (Charged Couple Device) to sense light color and intensity.

    During the 1960’s, NASA converted from using analog to digital signals with their space probes to map the surface of the moon (sending digital signals back to earth). Computer technology was also advancing at this time and NASA used computers to enhance the images that the space probes were sending.

    With such an historical event for humankind like the 1969 moon landing; the question has been raised as to why NASA would elect to use antiquated analog photographic technology rather than the latest digital technology?

    With such an historical event, it simply begs the question as to: “why use and download everything in and too analog when you have the technology of digital at your disposal?”

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    Yes. The astronauts were taking photos of the moon, but don’t you think its the slightest bit suspicious that with all the hundreds, if not thousands of photos taken, that NOT one shows ONE single star in the background, or even an out of focused photo showing blurred stars - and all we see is a black velvet background?

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    To further your own knowledge and education, please refer to the below link under the heading: (Apollo 11 Broadcast) You will then understand I was correct in saying that all the information the world received regarding the 1969 moon landing did in fact get transmitted from Parkes in Australia.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parkes_Observatory


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    You made a asertion that the only radio telescope that could collect radio and image data from the 1969 moon landing was the Parkes radio telescope. That is not correct. The above link tells us that Gladstone antenna in California could also collect data, and if it could collect date, then the bigger Lovell radio telescope in Cheshire would have also been able to collect transmissions, considering it was in the Northern hemisphere like Gladstone California.

    Hell. If we are to believe NASA and the bureaucratic scientists working for them, then they know what God ate for lunch, but they cannot even show us a simple photo of a flag waving on the moon. Now what’s wrong with that picture? LOL LOL

    I’m not biased either way, but there is certainly many genuine unanswered questions that you would think career professionals would be able to answer without resorting to childish name calling and trying to use deflection as a means to avoid the real issues.
     
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    I asked you just one thing, as a courteous request.. Please reply in your own words, without links.

    You reply by spamming links to someone else's argument. Don't lie and claim "I said" it's a blatant lie, you never said it you only linked to the arguments made by others.

    You're clearly a bot. Plain and simple.. keyword search based algorithm.. Look for posts replying to your user name, must have found words about laser reflectors so spams a canned response linking to another thread. Why am I even talking to a robot now?!?!?!? I'm actually sitting here trying to talk sense into a robot now LMAO I must be bored.
     
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    No, that isn't suspicious. There are perfectly good technical reasons why stars are not visible in pictures taken from the moon.

    This seems to be a good laymans explaination; http://www.skywise711.com/Skeptic/MoonPics/MoonPics.html
     
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    Nope. You try taking pictures of the stars with a camera on daylight settings and see what you get.

    What? There are plenty of photos from the various missions which include the flags they planted. What are you looking for where they're concerned, exactly?
     
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