I really detest dishonest people - below, the clearest proof you can get that this serial forum spammer is actually lying. The Soil rises in an arc that is level with his front boot. And from his own words, this comedian shoots himself in the foot! If you are suspended from a wire it is above you. If you then move forwards, the center of gravity is changed, the wire will pull you back slightly as it presumably attempts to follow you in a magic way to be above you once more. The fact that this basic thing has never occurred to you or that you have no idea whatsoever about it, speaks volumes about how hopeless you are on this subject. In the above footage, Cernan comes back to the LRV from well over 100 yards away and not in a straight line. I don't know what bullshit suspension system you think is possible and I guarantee you will not address any of this - but for there to be a wire above him following for over a hundred yards and not in a straight line is ridiculous and moronic! In batshit hoax world though, arm-wave it away!
Has any body ever heard of a: Spoiler: Drowning Fish Thrower Closely related to Fish Throwers are the Drowning Fish Throwers. These trolls begin as regular interlocutors on social media. However, sooner or later they get into a debate and begin to lose the argument. Rather than admit defeat, they try to win points by insulting their opponents’ grammar. Unfortunately, they don’t fool anyone.
I thought you were referring to this anomaly. The Apollo Moon Jump Salute Refute hd https://www.brighteon.com/a515dc75-83bb-4e02-aad9-b1cdfe0de150 My reply above was a response to that anomaly.
Are you saying it's impossible for engineers to design such a system? The jumps salute proves that wires were used anyway. http://www.politicalforum.com/index...nd-absurd-hoax-coffin.604367/#post-1073766164 The proof that the footage was filmed in air closes the whole case by itself so the wire issue isn't about whether they faked the missions. It's about how they faked the missions. http://www.politicalforum.com/index...ers-are-corrupt.441261/page-2#post-1072215068
You seem to be a failure at everything, even the simple flow of a thread. So now instead of acknowledging the jump I was OBVIOUSLY referring to, you divert with more pathetic denial. Quite clearly Cernan jumps the same height as the soil, so he MUST come down at the same time. You are done. You know it and everybody who reads this and the other threads knows it. Now all that remains is for you to vacate and find another forum to spam on without a single reference to the colossal failures you have made! You are a liar! You clearly referred to the bouncing soil! Now respond honestly to the post above clearly about Cernan and the wave of soil at the same height. In terms of John Young's jump, once again your dishonesty and/or delusion is in action. Are you insane? So now we have a whole team designing a ludicrously complicated and highly intensive system, a team to invisibly install it on a massive area, 100s of yards across! I don't need to deny such a thing was possible to build, it is moronic to do it in the first place and involve dozens more people on dozens more sets, because there are substantial numbers of non-Earth jumps. You are just a troll who makes ever more complicated crap up to support this ludicrous and disproven garbage. Strange way of pluralizing the word jump. The jump salute proves beyond any doubt that it was on the Moon. We have an arc of dust rising at the same speed and height as John Young and your trolling evasion cannot alter that. You are busted and know it, as does anyone reading any thread in this sub-forum. Troll noise. There is no proof they were in air. Cernan's jump closes the pathetic hoax case all on its own. The moronic bouncing soil disproven The falling battery lid that causes only a tiny puff in the corner with zero displacement in the direction of fall - impossible in air! John Young's jump, perfect parabolic arc rising in perfect sync, closes the case. Not one single instance of dust suspension on the LRV footage. In 50 hours of surface footage covering miles and miles of visible terrain, not a single instance of dust suspension. The entire record of video shows enormous areas, with frequent 360 degree pans and long zooms such as the one into Hadley Rille. This dishonest spammer has failed to give a single honest response to any of it and keeps trolling his pathetic claims as diversion. Let's show exactly what we are dealing with here, so you were "referring to the jump salute" were you! Scott said: I can see the arc you're referring to and the soil goes up as high as the foot and then this liar said......... Scott said: The dust has a lower zenith. Here is the animated gif showing the jump: You can clearly see the arc between his boots rising in perfect sync, yet this lying spammer, afraid to be wrong stands there and denies the in-your-face obvious! Unfortunately for you THAT, and just THAT is the nail in your coffin of ignorance. Absent of an atmosphere and over short distances on Earth, an object will rise to its zenith at the same time as it falls from the zenith to the surface. I suggest you read and digest that. See if you can use your best English comprehension skills to fully understand it. Because I know what you must do now. You must obfuscate, divert, distract and try and make this go away. But it won't because you have inadvertently closed your own case.
You're leaving something out. http://www.politicalforum.com/index...nd-absurd-hoax-coffin.604367/#post-1073767786 http://www.politicalforum.com/index...nd-absurd-hoax-coffin.604367/#post-1073768270 (see post #13 ) 1 3 8 http://www.politicalforum.com/index...nlight-addendum.584604/page-6#post-1073849719 I can't make that smilie disappear.
I left nothing out. You lied and now you are trying to wriggle out of it with bullshit "observations" that are clearly another lie. To anyone but a dishonest troll, trying to back pedal from their foot shooting admission, the small arc of soil between his boots is rising at the same time and height as his boot. That's game over and this troll knows it. Unfortunately nobody can make you go away from the internet - you are like a stain of failure wherever you post. Your truly idiotic observations about it "falling off" like " a parabola" are as dumb as I have seen. It is a parabola because a) it is subject to gravity in its acceleration and b) moving forwards in line with the tilt of his lower legs. Now be an honest truther, be objective, use the scientific method and explain HERE, without links to previous bullshit fail: Why doesn't a falling battery lid send the clearly visible dust everywhere in the direction of fall. Why do you fail to to answer the large post at the top of the page - Cernan dust wave is level with his boot? Game over! What kind of person fails to provide a working answer to the LRV travers over many miles? How can you stand there and deny evidence, in your face, that Young is rising in line with the kicked dust? How can you maintain this was a small area given the enormous zoom in the Had;ey Rille video? What the hell do you think you are doing, because all it seems is you lying and evading?
Scott said: Finding something I said in the past before I'd taken a closer look at it doesn't change what can be seen. Anybody who takes a close look at the footage in slow-motion can see that the top of the arc is at the same level as the top of his boot and that it falls sooner and faster than the astronaut falls. Are you joking!? I've been asking you to answer about this visible piece of soil for MONTHS and you suggest you didn't take a damn "closer look"? And STILL you miss the vital point with yet more idiotic observations. The top of the arc is at the same level as his boot, it rises in perfect sync. THAT is all that matters, its visibility and dissipation against a grey background is completely irrelevant. The fact it is difficult to see, irrelevant. The ONLY relevant part is that it rises in unison with him and the laws of physics say that things rise and fall at the same time(absent of air resistance). If you are too clueless to get this, irrelevant. It really is game over and you have totally shot yourself in the foot. All you can do is your usual dishonest trolling and evasion.
You're trying to muddy the waters. The viewers can read the discussion and see what's really happening. http://www.politicalforum.com/index...-the-untenable-and-absurd-hoax-coffin.604367/
Look at this joker, he shamelessly avoids large posts, numerous unanswered questions (bullshit evasion doesn't count!) and denying irrefutable evidence! The viewers see you getting annihilated almost every post and you evading and squirming like a baby. To anyone but a dishonest troll, trying to back pedal from their foot shooting admission, the small arc of soil between his boots is rising at the same time and height as his boot. That's game over. What then happens to the grey soil against a grey background is 100% irrelevant. That is, it has no significance. When an object rises in line with something else it can and must follow it down again. Check mate and he knows it. He has been trolling this crap Now be an honest truther, be objective, use the scientific method and explain HERE, without links to previous bullshit fail: Why doesn't a falling battery lid send the clearly visible dust everywhere in the direction of fall. Why do you fail to answer the large post at the top of the page - Cernan's dust wave is level with his boot? Game over! What kind of person fails to provide a working answer to the LRV travers over many miles? How can you stand there and deny evidence, in your face, that Young is rising in line with the kicked dust? How can you maintain this was a small area given the enormous zoom in the Had;ey Rille video? What the hell do you think you are doing, because all it seems is you lying and evading? We know all of the above prove the Apollo landings individually on their own, so we need to understand what the motive is for this troll to deny these completely obvious things. It's too late for this serial forum spammer to worry about losing face, that ship sailed 20 years ago. Does he have some money making tied in with this massive failure? It can't be to educate others, since every single thing he posts about is conspiracy driven garbage.
You made a total fool of yourself here. http://www.politicalforum.com/index...-apollo-landing.519410/page-9#post-1072078676
You see the major problem you have is that the only judge of who the fool is here, is based on YOUR intellect and understanding. Since you have shown yourself to be one of the most clueless people online that kind of makes your pathetic assessment a little flawed. If you close a door, everyone knows it creates a draft. Even you I suspect. That's the wonderful thing about science. Things behave in certain ways and there is no deviance on matters such as this. If you push shut a lid on a box, it will send air in the direction it falls. Whilst there is air spillage to the sides, it is considerably less. Now in the instance you failed to honestly discuss. we see a battery lid being pushed shut on the Moon, the hoax-liar who made the movie points out the issues: Anyone who understands the most basic of all physics, or who has dropped a flat object will know that it sends a big draft of air in all directions. The similar action can be seen when a door is closed. From the video, clearly two things are obvious. 1, there is dust everywhere on the rover. The video maker goes to great pains to show this, erroneously thinking it helps his case. It does the opposite. 2, the descending flat lid has no air being expelled as it comes down. There is no massive ejection of air in all directions, let alone the most obvious one, in the direction of the falling lid. Conclusion: The spammer has identified a piece of footage by his ignorance, that subsequently proves it was in a vacuum. Busted and he knows it. But we all know he has no honour and will never concede his failures. A falling pushed, large flat surface expels lots of air and would have blown dust everywhere - ergo it was a vacuum.
And yet again - he responded to one line and despite being asked to explain it here, he links to where he got his butt kicked: Look at this joker, he shamelessly avoids large posts, numerous unanswered questions (bullshit evasion doesn't count!) and denying irrefutable evidence! The viewers see you getting annihilated almost every post and you evading and squirming like a baby. To anyone but a dishonest troll, trying to back pedal from their foot shooting admission, the small arc of soil between his boots is rising at the same time and height as his boot. That's game over. What then happens to the grey soil against a grey background is 100% irrelevant. That is, it has no significance. When an object rises in line with something else it can and must follow it down again. Check mate and he knows it. He has been trolling this crap Now be an honest truther, be objective, use the scientific method and explain HERE, without links to previous bullshit fail: Why doesn't a falling battery lid send the clearly visible dust everywhere in the direction of fall. Why do you fail to answer the large post at the top of the page - Cernan's dust wave is level with his boot? Game over! What kind of person fails to provide a working answer to the LRV traverse over many miles? How can you stand there and deny evidence, in your face, that Young is rising in line with the kicked dust? How can you maintain this was a small area given the enormous zoom in the Hadley Rille video? What the hell do you think you are doing, because it seems you are just lying and evading? We know all of the above prove the Apollo landings individually on their own, so we need to understand what the motive is for this troll to deny these completely obvious things. It's too late for this serial forum spammer to worry about losing face, that ship sailed 20 years ago. Does he have some money making tied in with this massive failure? It can't be to educate others, since every single thing he posts about is conspiracy driven garbage.
You looked like a total horse's a-s in the discussion that started at the top of page #9 of this thread... http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/proof-of-a-faked-apollo-landing.519410/ ... and ended here. http://www.politicalforum.com/index...apollo-landing.519410/page-13#post-1072157913 What's an Apollo truther supposed to do when dealing with a Black Knight* who maintains the attitude that he's winning when he's losing and tries to bury the part where he obviously lost deep in the thread to reduce the number of people who see it and then go on as if nothing had happened. http://www.politicalforum.com/index...nlight-addendum.584604/page-7#post-1073857095 * Monty Python - The Black Knight - Tis But A Scratch
You seem to have trouble reading. You certainly show dozens of really bad traits associated with conspiracy fools. You run away when you lose, you are frightened to be wrong, you don't assess any evidence that contradicts your fixated claim, you have zero objectivity, you have no integrity or humility and probably the worst of all is that you are extremely ignorant on every subject you chuck garbage at. You see the major problem you have is that the only judge of who the "horse's a-s" is here, is based on YOUR intellect and understanding. Since you have shown yourself to be one of the most clueless people online that kind of makes your pathetic assessment a little flawed. What? I mean seriously what universe is somebody of your appalling calibre a "truther"? You are the complete opposite. I am an Apollo truther. NASA landed six times on the Moon and to anyone who is honest and not buried in batshit it has been soundly proven beyond even the flimsiest of doubt. I've ignored the rest of your cut and paste spam. Regarding the falling flat battery cover lid and the dishonesty from "scott":- There is such a thing as deductive reasoning and he seems to have a complete absence of this basic and easily acquired skill. From the video we can see a number of things:- There is a plethora of dust. It is clearly and obviously covering most of the visible area. This is not up for debate, the film maker actually insists on it. The lid for the battery is pushed shut. Again not up for debate, clearly visible. It impacts the box and there is a small disturbance in the near corner. Again not up for debate, clearly visible. A descending flat surface displaces air as it falls. Mainly in the direction of fall, but also to the sides. Similar to the draft from a closing door. Irrefutable and obvious. There is not the slightest movement or displacement of any of the dust opposite to the direction the lid is falling. Nothing whatsoever! In a vacuum, there would be no displaced air and subsequently no displaced dust. This is what is observed. In a vacuum and low gravity, any impact vibrations would exaggerate the movements observed. It is completely and irrefutably irrelevant which part of the lid impacts the box. We know it does impact because it stops! Any lid falling onto a box must cause an impact force and it must be from the underside. Now from the responses being received from this serial forum spammer we can also see a number of things:- Clearly he is diverting attention from the obvious lack of frontal air disturbance that is 100% unavoidable. He keeps referring to the underneath impact point not being highlighted when it is 100% obvious this is how the collision works. It must be the underneath striking! This dishonest person will never concede the absolute obvious, he will obfuscate and divert but will never admit his errors. CLICK HERE to watch the clip. Pause the video at 17 seconds to see how this youtube video maker shoots himself in both feet. The whole area is covered in dust, I agree, yet the pushed falling lid only puffs in one tiny corner and look at how ridiculously high the dust goes up from the impact of the corner - low gravity! NOTHING is disturbed in front, none of that mass of dust is disturbed! The footage presented has now 100% irrefutably shown that the small segment highlighted must be in a vacuum. It almost certainly must also be in low gravity from the absurdly unnatural way the dust moves. The forum spammer has shot down in flames his own 20 years spammed claim! Further, since we now have proven that this sequence is in a vacuum, so must be the footage before and after this section. It's on the Moon.
Absolute proof. I guess @Scott will ignore it or spam some more. I am still waiting for his explanation of why nobody has been able to prove the existence of wires/harnesses on the astronauts despite powerful present day software that could do so. He also hasn't explained what kind of technology was around in the sixties that would allow for the complete concealment of wires/harnesses and a sound studio.
The anomalies in the footage prove it. It's so obvious that no high tech is needed. http://www.politicalforum.com/index...nd-absurd-hoax-coffin.604367/#post-1073766164 The anomalies are too clear to obfuscate. Only people who had high security clearances and were involved in the project would know those things. https://www.clubconspiracy.com/counter-intellegience-tricks-and-techniques-t4702.html (excerpt) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 14. Demand complete solutions. Avoid the issues by requiring opponents to solve the crime at hand completely, a ploy which works best items qualifying for rule 10. Example: "Since you know so much, if James Earl Ray is innocent as you claim, who really killed Martin Luther King, how was it planned and executed, how did they frame Ray and fool the FBI, and why?" Proper response: You are avoiding the issue with disinformation tactics. It is not necessary to completely resolve any full matter in order to examine any relative attached issue. Why do you refuse to address the issues by use of such disinformation tactics (rule 14 - demand complete solutions)?
Troll-noise and baloney. Look at this ridiculous spammer - cowardly avoids yet another very reasonable request. You would be in the most perfect place if you isolated wires in footage, but like the very ignorant person you are, you choose to evade and squirm. Pathetic troll is pathetic.
@Scott I have no idea how this forum troll is still allowed to post here, this utter joke of a poster has had his ass handed to him dozens and dozens of times!
The viewers have seen your view and my view. They can decide for themselves. http://www.politicalforum.com/index...nlight-addendum.584604/page-7#post-1073857095
You are wrong about everything. You can’t answer simple questions, your answers are wrong, illogical, and really show you don’t have a rudimentary understanding of the information @Betamax101 has posted.
They have seen your garbage, your evasion, your appalling dishonesty, your never-ending failure to reply to hundreds of posts. No normal person would carry on with this pathetic claim in the face of dozens and dozens of irrefutable facts. Let me prove this to the viewers - watch for evasion or a dishonest answer. If you slam a door, what is going to happen, a tiny little puff in the corner or a large waft of air in the direction of the door shutting?
Zero jerkiness on any Apollo footage! If you are suspended from a wire it is above you. If you then move forwards, the center of gravity is changed, the wire will pull you back slightly as it presumably attempts to follow you in a magic way to be above you once more. The fact that this basic thing has never occurred to you or that you have no idea whatsoever about it, speaks volumes about how hopeless you are on this subject. In the above footage, Cernan comes back to the LRV from well over 100 yards away and not in a straight line. I don't know what bullshit suspension system you think is possible and I guarantee you will not address any of this - but for there to be a wire above him following for over a hundred yards and not in a straight line is ridiculous and moronic! In batshit hoax world though, arm-wave it away Look at this spammer. No integrity. No response, just this small observation completely disproves the wires!
Look at this joker, he shamelessly avoids large posts, numerous unanswered questions (bullshit evasion doesn't count!) and denying irrefutable evidence! The viewers see you getting annihilated almost every post and you evading and squirming like a baby. To anyone but a dishonest troll, trying to back pedal from their foot shooting admission, the small arc of soil between his boots is rising at the same time and height as his boot. That's game over. What then happens to the grey soil against a grey background is 100% irrelevant. That is, it has no significance. When an object rises in line with something else it can and must follow it down again. Check mate and he knows it. He has been trolling this crap for 20 years and is a specialist in one thing - failure!
