Apollo Moon "Hoax" Film makers are corrupt!

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    Ignoring the evasive spam, here's another one where the lying charlatan David Percy, a man who ran in to hiding as his useless junk movie got taken apart, once again makes an ass of himself whilst blatantly lying:

     
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    I don't have any background on photography so I really can't comment on the above.

    Hoax-believers have made a few mistakes and have been wrong on a few things but that doesn't make the clear anomalies that prove the hoax* go away.

    Tell us what you think of what David Groves says at the 34:00 time mark of this video. Do you think he's corrupt?

    What Happened On The Moon
    https://www.bing.com/videos/search?...150536B968998D3678F4150536B96899&&FORM=VRDGAR


    How about this guy?
    https://www.brighteon.com/channels/stevedachemist

    Do you think he's corrupt?


    And this guy...
    http://www.moonfaker.com/videos.php

    Do you think he's corrupt?



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    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...anding-is-fake.553296/page-22#post-1073703706
     
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    Look at this pathetic poster. Instead of responding to my direct claim, he spams a few of his debunked to death links!

    You don't have a background in anything yet it doesn't stop your incessant spamming and off topic crap!

    Bullshit. These aren't "mistakes" they are like most things, inept, inaccurate and often downright lies and deception. You do it all the time.

    A lie and a spam comment. There are no unaddressed, undebunked "clear anomalies". You just refuse to acknowledge where your batshit has been taken to pieces.

    Debunking The Apollo Moon Hoax (debunking-a-moron.blogspot.com)
    10. Divert/Obfuscate/Re-spam: This is where he avoids the item completely and gish-gallops away with repeated spam. Almost certainly he will keep avoiding the original claim.

    Spam already addressed and ignored.
    Nvidia Debunks Conspiracy Theories About Moon Landing - YouTube

    He was paid to appear in a film when his business was failing. Why are your lying charlatans all telling the truth and every scientist who knows Apollo happened "lying"!


    Plus five more pages.

    Steve the chemist? No, he's just an imbecile. Spammed dozens of times and answered and completely debunked by me/ignored by you.

    He lies a fair amount of times, deliberately misses out important items. He is trying to build a youtube revenue source!

    Now answer my post troll, I'll repost it because you deliberately rolled it off the page and deceptively failed to answer it.
     
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    Deliberate off topic evasion designed to bury this post:

    The latest example of the sheer stupidity and /or corruption exhibited by these snake-oil salesmen:

    Currently being dumped on every thread the serial-forum-spammer posts on, is the clueless video titled "Moon Hoax; "Apollo; Hoax Of The 20th Century" Part 2 of 2"
    At the 45:18 mark, this lying youtuber uses an appallingly low resolution oblique image (Sun low on the horizon and surface darker) and then compares it to a broad daylight better version camera and says they are different!

    Here are two images he uses(second one a crop from image 1):
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    Now a higher resolution Apollo 15 version taken from orbit of that same location:
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    And the crop!
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    Straight away we can see that the Apollo 15 image is the same area with virtually every crater and ridge the same, only with less shadow! He then compares his poor jpeg to a crop from a non-zoomed image where there is far less detail!

    Pure deception.
     
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    You didn't post the picture that's at the 46:10 time mark of the video.

    Moon Hoax; "Apollo; Hoax Of The 20th Century" Part 2 of 2



    That's the whole argument. The terrain in that picture looks like it can be driven on and the terrain in the pictures you posted looks like it can't be driven on, at least not nearly as easily. The bottom line is that the pictures are different. Why didn't you show that picture?

    Also, at the 45:48 time mark it's pointed out that there seems be some doctoring of the photo taken in 1967 which shows the rough terrain. At the 43:19 time mark we can see some really smooth terrain where the rover was driven which doesn't look consistent with the 1967 picture but looks consistent with the Apollo 15 picture which you didn't post.
     
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    A deceptive one and you didn't address it, you just respammed your video.

    A totally absurd suggestion. This area is massive. It is an ORBITAL photo! There is no way you can gauge local detail, especially when the deceptive joker uses crappy resolution version of the landing site. How can you not know this, what level of brain power is needed to get this stunningly obvious thing?

    Because I explained what it was and why there was less detail!
    He then compares his poor jpeg to a crop from a non-zoomed image where there is far less detail!

    He uses for his comparison, a crusty jpeg that has a low solar elevation, then a zoomed orbital photo - as you just pointed out, deliberate deception.

    Right from the start you admitted you know jack about photography, well can you get your clueless head around this? If you have a camera specifically targeting areas with focus, then compare it to one that is of a bigger area, less focus but zoom in, you lose detail!

    A small example where we see detail drop off just from picture quality and focus:-
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    Are you even smart enough to work out what would happen if we went even higher, larger area and used a crop?


    Well since you compared an orbital photo focused on the massive area in question and poor resolution, against one that has been cropped from a much larger area with a different solar elevation, it seems you have the same obvious need for deception. The local terrain cannot be gauged from an orbital photo, another nail in the idiotic hoax coffin, since we have topographical data of the Moon now showing that it matches Apollo photography.



    Descent starts off all relatively smooth and as they get nearer, more and more craters come into focus, basic photography of which you know jack! That's another piece of footage that you cannot explain, and don't insult everyone's intelligence by referring to NASA's huge Moon model, these craters on the descent would be impossible to do, unless you had a set 20 miles across. Easier to land of course.
     
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    Evasion and spam. The first was deliberate to prove a point which I successfully did. The second has not been doctored and anyone with even rudimentary cut and paste skills can replicate it. Since you are the cut and paste spam king, how come you have not? I even gave you the time stamps for the frames.

    No, it's easier for incompetents to just deny and cry foul, rather than replicate and falsify. Your whole claim went up in smoke with that one animation, so no wonder you are afraid to be wrong - yet again!

    Now, the post above which you are frightened to concede is fundamental to the actual case. Because we know that surface images in such detail cannot be gleaned from distant orbital images, the fact that topographical scans from Selene and LROC are identical to Apollo proves beyond any doubt that they are authentic.

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    All this spammer can do is deny and claim everyone is in on this idiotic 50 plus years hoax. All the geologists, all the LROC team (disproven by the method - and ignored), countless numbers of new NASA personnel, counless numbers of engineers who have examined the record, countless numbers who are supposed to have assembled all the images and videos! all the people from numerous sources who tracked the missions, staff at Jodrell bank, Australia, Spain. That list is not even close to exhaustive.

    It doesn't even include the teams making all the hardware. They either made it fit for purpose or faked it, there is no middle ground!
     
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    Ignoring the spam:

    Here's another one where the lying charlatan David Percy, a man who ran in to hiding as his useless junk movie got taken apart, once again makes an ass of himself whilst blatantly lying:

     
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    Maybe the people who did LROC and Selene were in league with NASA. If they were, all the photos will be consistent with each other. Pictures are fakable. Nothing that's fakable can be used as proof as it might be faked.
     
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    Cut and paste spam. Prove directly with un-debunked evidence that LROC is faked. Do not spam those 3 bullshit videos, already addressed, debunked and ignored by you.

    You were given a massive list showing how LROC could not be faked and you said you were too clueless to understand it(though not in those words!).

    All this spammer can do is deny and claim everyone is in on this idiotic 50 plus years hoax. All the geologists, all the LROC team (disproven by the method - and ignored), countless numbers of new NASA personnel, counless numbers of engineers who have examined the record, countless numbers who are supposed to have assembled all the images and videos! all the people from numerous sources who tracked the missions, staff at Jodrell bank, Australia, Spain. That list is not even close to exhaustive.

    Now add to this batshit list, the Japanese members of Jaxa!
     
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    Acting dumb and doing a perfect job.

    Video 1, the YouTube clown finds the inevitable photoshop evidence on a photoshop crop. Faceplant time. What he failed to do is understand that the original TIFF file is gigabytes huge, has no editing evidence and is a truly vast picture taken in sequence. You were given a massive list showing how LROC could not be faked and you said you were too clueless to understand it(though not in those words!).

    Video 2, the Blunder from down under postulates that a grey surface in vacuum and a mainly metallic structure should show up with the same clarity as fully illuminated from every direction by the atmosphere and Sun, multiple colors and a whole load of different color surfaces. That is just moronic.

    Video 3, again from the Blunder, nothing to do with LROC.

    Look at how he is afraid to address my post above! He picks one line where he can dump previously addressed spam.

    All he can do is deny and claim everyone is in on this idiotic 50 plus years hoax. All the geologists, all the LROC team (disproven by the method - and ignored), countless numbers of new NASA personnel, countless numbers of engineers who have examined the record, countless numbers who are supposed to have assembled all the images and videos! all the people from numerous sources who tracked the missions, staff at Jodrell bank, Australia, Spain. That list is not even close to exhaustive.

    Now add to this batshit list, the Japanese members of Jaxa! Add the Indian team and also the Russians. He just continues to fail at every point and props up thIs batshit with more and more people. He is that delusional that to him, simply making the idiotic claim that these people were all involved means he can dismiss their very real and significant evidence,
     
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    Just to re-iterate the total absurdity of this serial forum spammer. The 3 videos addressed above, have been spammed by him about 10 times. Every time without fail he runs away and avoids the responses. He neither understands the subject matter or why his inept sources are so easily debunked. What makes it even more sad is that the spam about the 3 videos was used to evade the post directly above it where one of his main sources is once again caught lying.

    It never occurs to this person, that despite his ridiculous protestations about the entire mainstream colluding and lying to cover up this moronic hoax, the only clearly demonstratable liars are his own sources!
     
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    Marcus Allen concedes that Man has gone to the Moon but some things are suspicious. Notice how withdrawn he is in front of knowledgeable people who know way more than he does!
    49:38 "There is a body of thought which does believe that nobody went to the Moon. I don't happen to agree with that." - Marcus Allen, liar and deceptive Moon hoax claimant.
     
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    I wonder why the spammer only answers posts in idiotic 'hoax' specific threads. Oh, that would be so that his trash rises to the top of the pile. Tell us all about Marcus Allen the latest in a long line of lying and corrupt snake oil salesmen.
     
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    Hey Scott/Cosmored/Rocky/Drifty/David C - tell the viewers why you aren't replying to significant posts that kick your ass?

    Post #114 above awaits your response.
    Post #116 above awaits your response.
     
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    The bottom line is those pictures are fakable. Anything fakable can't be used as proof as it might be fake. They had the capability to take clear pictures and they gave us this unclear stuff which would at least make an objective person suspicious. Those LRO pictures also don't make the clear hoax proof* go away. That evidence makes the LRO issue moot.

    Marcus Allen Presents; "Prove Me Wrong"
    https://www.bing.com/videos/search?...E86CECAADE24E5B26F5FE86CECAADE24E5B&FORM=VIRE
    (40:08 time mark)


    I found it very strange that the clearest hoax proof wasn't presented. That session looks like a typical piece of sophistry in which only vague easy-to-obfuscate issues are addressed. That will take in an audience that hasn't seen the clear proof. If he'd talked about the clear proof such as the effects of atmosphere in the footage and sound in a supposed vacuum, he would have shown them all that Apollo was a hoax. I can only wonder why he'd be part of something like that.


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    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...anding-is-fake.553296/page-22#post-1073703706
     
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    BULLSHIT! You were given a list of extensive problems that were impossible to overcome. You are too ignorant to understand them. That does not give you the opportunity to offer your pathetic spam comment!

    http://debunking-a-moron.blogspot.com
    1. For images or video: "Nothing that's fakable can be used as proof as it might be fake."


    He will never apply this moronic circular logic to his own images and videos. He will never actually prove it is faked or offer the number of people involved in such.

    You sad troll. Yet again with your "moot point" gibberish. Everything in your idiotic wall of spam has been debunked. All of it, and each time, every item is "moot" until all the items are "moot" and your hoax "proof" has not only gone away in a large puff of backside gas, it never existed to any significant degree in the first place.

    http://debunking-a-moron.blogspot.com
    11. Never mind that - look over here: When this hopeless individual has exhausted his inept repertoire of responses comes his most used spam. He resorts to spamming his wall of crap and ignoring the main issue!

    "Anyway, there's a ton of proof that the missions were faked and zero proof that they were real."
    7. When all else fails: "I think the rest are moot now that you`ve been discredited and there are a lot of clear anomalies that prove the footage ...."

    So when he routinely gets his claim debunked, it is "moot" because of "all the others". It never occurs to him that all the other evidence has been debunked and was also "moot" when it was addressed. When pushed to provide a list of items to address, at all costs he will not do this because it can be seen where they have all been debunked.


    Spam response. There is no clear proof, you've got nothing but your pathetic cut and paste regurgitated, debunked-to-death garbage.

    So now your number one clown source is disowned by you as a sophist. You cannot make up your level off delusion.

    There is no clear proof and the members of that group have seen all the junk you routinely spam.

    Both debunked and denied - go and get a proper 'hobby' because you are useless at this. Your daily ass-kicking seems to have no effect on your stubborn failure.

    Idiotic circular logic from the bottom of the barrel. He wasn't a part of anything. He presented his crap that you lauded, yet all of a sudden, after he concedes that man went to the Moon, you disown him.

    I already told you he was a dishonest jackass because he later went back on that statement!
     
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    Hey Scott/Cosmored/Rocky/Drifty/David C - tell the viewers why you aren't replying to significant posts that kick your ass?
    That last post was so very lame, you obviously don't believe your own arguments. I think you know we went to the Moon and have ulterior motives for this absurd campaign of trolling you are engaging in.

    Post #114 above awaits your FULL and proper HONEST response. You basically ignored the whole thing!

    There are dozens more and everyone who sees your daily failures knows this!
     
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    What do you think of the point made at the 40:08 time mark of the video? A satellite can take clear pictures from 400 kilometers but the LRO took pictures with no detail from 25 kilometers.
     
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    Your thread derailing and trolling knows no bounds. This is about dishonest hoax movie makers not your spam failures in understanding optics, lighting and resolution. The Moon is grey, has no atmosphere to bounce light around and illuminate. The descent stage of the LM is metallic grey and by now covered in dust. That's greyish grey on a grey background! The LROC has a much inferior resolution to Earth orbital imaging satellites. The Earth has multiple colors, illuminated in all directions by atmosphere and with an image system designed to produce hi density digital images, that also then allow enlargement.

    I have already addressed this numerous times and like a troll you have failed to see it and/or ignored it. I find it absurd that you quote again this Marcus Allen jackass who said this:

    Marcus Allen "The Apollo record was enhanced. There is more than enough evidence that I am persuaded by specifically the photographs of the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter, which show the landers where they're supposed to be - I've checked the Apollo photograph overhead and compared them to the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter of the same mission. A pattern of craters matches, the position matches. The only thing I do object to is that they are such poor quality photographs."
     
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    When can we expect the serial forum spammer to answer this post? A thread demonstrating that all his sources are lying and he still hasn't even acknowledged it. His batshit spam says it doesn't prove anything when it really does. It proves that hoax claimants are way more likely to deceive than the very people they seek to defame!
     
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    To the serial forum spammer, currently running away from half a dozen threads that own him, be a man and start being honest with your posts. It's not pretty looking at your cowardly activity evading them all.
     

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