Are progressives really pro-choice?

Can you answer a personal question?

Why do you have so much invested in the right to have an abortion?

 

LIfe isn't fair FoxHastings. Biology has made it where the risks and consequences associated with sexual intercourse fall more heavily upon women than men. There are compensations the other way of course but that's just the way it is. No number of court decisions will ever change that.

 

Nope.

Why do you have so much invested in denying women their rights?


When you make a mistake do you rectify it or just wallow helplessly in it?

 

And it sure sounds like you enjoy that and don't want women to have any relief or CHOICE concerning their own bodies.
Sounds like you don't want it to be fair as long as women are "controlled".

Sounds like you prefer women stay in the dark ages and only men enjoy the advances of medical science and freedom of not having to worry about pregnancy

No, a court decision can't change biology ( glad you recognize a science) but a court decision can make sure we all have the same rights.

 

I believe that life begins at conception and implantation in the uterine wall, the point at which absent an act of God or nature or an act of man development into what everyone even abortionists acknowledge is undeniably human life is inevitable.

Thus I believe that every effort should be made to protect that life and see it at least has a chance. Once a child is born I see it as being the obligation of the parents though some assistance of the state is tolerable.

Eventually I feel thanks to artificial womb technology, elective abortions will be eliminated. No one can justify abortion when simple removal of the fetus from the womb is safe for the mother and it.

Once that occurs, future generations will look back on the age of legal elective abortions and be shocked and appalled and view it much as we view slavery today.

Also I get very irritated to hear people prattling on about their "rights" without a mention about their "responsibilities"

Does that answer your questions?

 

Why should your opinion rule everyone else? That would be a real ego problem......

So , again, you believe women are nothing more than breeding cattle.

They should be forced to have a fetus taken out and grown under incredibly expensive conditions...multiplied a million times so YOU could scream about where all your taxes are going.

You wish to go back to slavery where women are OWNED not by private parties but by the government.....where the fetus is OWNED by the government to raise as it's own...gee, that won't cost much...no thought at all to CONSEQUENCES.

Future generations will look back and wonder why, in the 21st century , wiomen still had to fight for their rights as humans...

Ya, those fetuses NEVER mention their responsibilities with all those super rights you want to give them.

It is very responsible to abort a fetus that you don't want or can't afford.....you can wallow in your mistakes but don't expect others to.

So you are totally against war and protest all the time, right????


You never answered :

Why do you have so much invested in denying women their rights?

 

The abortion of viable babies makes up less than 1% of all abortions and is done solely for health reasons.

No person has the right to use the body of another person against that person's will, even if it is the only means to save their life.

 

Any rights that deliberately harm innocent life are to be considered very suspect.

 

Why not?

No rights are absolute.

And once artificial womb technology reaches maturity, all pregnancies are considered "viable"

 

Like saying that fetuses have more rights than anyone else....the right to use another's body to sustain their own life....""very suspect" rights.

 

You want me (and millions of others) to live (and tacitly endorse) a society that allows and enables elective abortions.

Why should your opinions rule everyone else?

 

If no rights are "absolute" why do you want fetuses to have absolute rights (even more rights than anyone else)

 

An irresponsible person forfeits some degree of their rights.

 

Bodily sovereignty is pretty absolute. You guys want to give women less bodily sovereignty than we give corpses.

So if I need your blood to save my life, can I have the government force you to give it to me against your will?

Maybe the Christofascists should focus more on developing artificial wombs and less on violating women's rights?

 

Because my opinions are based on rights. YOUR opinion wants to destroy rights of women and give MORE rights to fetuses than anyone else has.

 

So you think all woman who get pregnant are irresponsible....well, I already knew and pointed out your disdain for women.

 

What about responsible people who used multiple forms of birth control and still got pregnant anyways?

Sorry, but your concept of the people who get abortions is utterly false.

 

this statement is profoundly absurd. It's not whining to point out lack of self-awareness people that think that you're opposed to them just to do evil lack self-awareness.

There wasn't any ad hominem (the word is f****** ad hominem) there was some tongue and cheek.

it has nothing to do with your false claims of ad hominem and pathetic misunderstanding of tongue and cheek. And wailing about your victimhood.

It has to do with I don't agree in lockstep with you.

Go ahead and ignore me live in your Echo chamber don't get mad at me and make false accusations because I refuse to be a part of your Echo chamber.

 

I'm not a doctor I'm not a woman facing severe complications should I continue a pregnancy.

excuse me you're dead wrong here I said twice that abortion should be legal.

So I don't know where you came up with this b*******.

Duh.

you don't read anything do you?

You just blindly rant at the people without first taking the time to even read what they said.

You're so obsessed with fighting this virtuous position that you ignore the discussion that's happening in order to Virtue signal.

It's like talking to a recording.

 

Would not be necessary. I donate blood all the time. But why shouldn't I be forced to submit to a needle prick and some brief discomfort to same someones life?

Isn't your life worth that much?

No. But birth control used responsibility works almost all the time.

And why do you think I have a disdain for women?

 

Extremely rare.

 

Shrieking "rights!" "rights!" doesn't make your opinion any more valid than mine.

And how do I want to give more rights to fetuses than anyone else has?

 

What if I needed one of your kidneys or a lung? You can live with one. Can I have the government force you to give me one of yours?

Isn't my life worth that much?

Almost all the time isn't all the time, is it?

 

Not really. The amount of women who get pregnant while on birth control is huge.

 

Thank you for proving my point about you disqualifying yourself.