Arkansas Gov. Sarah Huckabee Sanders Signs Law Prohibiting Transgender Restrooms in Schools

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  1. fullmetaljack

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    As long as the guard isn't a pedo.
     
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    good point, robot guard?
     
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    I don’t think the midterms were. There was no movement at all in the RCP generic congressional ballot when the SCOTUS overturned ROE on 24 June I believe through the month of July. Only when Trump became a focal point a month after the overturning of ROE did the generic congressional ballot begin to move. The Democrats tied it up and briefly took the lead only to lose it again in late October. Look at the graph.


    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/2022-generic-congressional-vote-7361.html


    Then look at the Trump chosen Republican candidates who lost. Tshibaka, Mastriano, Oz, Walker, Diehl, Cox, Bolduc, Lake, Masters, Laxalt and more. On average non-Trump chosen republican candidates received on average 10 points more votes than Trump Republican chosen candidates. Which reinforced the dislike of Trump by independents along with his chosen candidates. The democrats in my opinion were able to change the midterms from a referendum on Biden and company to one on Trump and his chosen candidates. It worked.


    31% listed inflation as their most important issue which overwhelmingly Republican, 27% listed abortion which voted overwhelmingly Democratic. But as a swing voter, what I found most interesting was 51% of all Americans thought the Democratic Party as too extreme, 52% viewed the GOP as too extreme.


    https://www.cnn.com/election/2022/exit-polls/national-results/house


    On abortion, I think over the last 50 years those who are avid pro-life have become Republicans and vote that way. Those who are avid pro-choice have become Democrats and vote that way. I also believe if Abortion was such a hot issue, the needle wouldn’t have taken a month to start moving in the Democrats favor. You mean it took a whole month for those who are abortion advocates to become energized and register their protests over the overturning of ROE? I think not. I think it was the appearance of Trump who drove independents away from the Republicans into the arms of the Democrats. My 2 cents.
     
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    I looked at your cited Exit Poll and I see that the abortion issue is a hot issue with Democrats. There's no surprise there. What I find puzzling is why there are no data about Independent voters (which many would claim to be liberal on social issues). It's their vote that, imo, moved the needle in favor of democrats. The majority of those polled thought the country was going in the wrong direction. If that holds true they had to decide on the basis of social issues and the #1 issue (that democrats capitalized on) was abortion.
     
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    Whom exactly is the entity or entities responsible for determining acceptability?
     
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    The entire idea of biological males using the same showering facility as women is absurd.

    It's interesting to see the left cross the line of absurdity, and then act flabergasted at "absurd" responses.
     
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    Percent of population with disabilities = 26%

    Percent of population transgender = .005%
     
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    So does the US. There are still hundreds of thousands of gender based restrooms, locker rooms, and showers.

    Does it make sense to retrofit all of those to accamodate .005% of the population?
     
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    Psst...I agree biological males using the same showering facility as women is absurd. But so isn't the idea of a security guard. Carry on.
     
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    I assumed you would be someone who deemed pedos as not accepted. Was I wrong in my assumption???????????
     
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    You didn't answer my question.

    You established a standard of acceptability. Where did that come from?
     
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    So my assumption was wrong. Got it. Yikes.
     
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    The security guard suggestion was by one of your own, a forum leftist.
     
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    See this is the thing...you think I have a side but I don't give a flying F who said it...it's a stupid idea. Not to mention that I disagree with leftists on this whole trans issue. So there's that. Try as you might but I don't fit into your neat little box.
     
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    You keep mentioning it as a rebuttal of some sort, so I was setting you straight.

    The quack and walk matches.
     
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    I’m not saying social issues didn’t play a part on how independents voted. I think it was their dislike of Trump that was the key. You had 34% of independents having a favorable view of Biden back then. Question 51A, 33% favorable of Trump, 28% of the Democratic party, 29% of the Republican party. Questions 51G, 52A and 52B. Which shows independents even in all these categories which translate to independents voting for the Democrats 49-47. You can’t get more even in that. There’s no love there for anyone.


    https://docs.cdn.yougov.com/gebmjsbpbw/econTabReport.pdf


    Perhaps the lack of love for either the present or ex-presidents or for either party is why independents split their vote roughly evenly. Independents certainly turned what was expected to be a red wave election back in June/July 2022 into a red trickle. One might even call the midterms a blue trickle as the Democrats gained a senate seat, 2 governorship while limiting their loses in the House to 9 seats. Especially with a sitting president at 42% overall job approval. Here’s what happened in the past with a sitting president hovering around 40% overall job approval.


    Biden 2022 42% lost 9 house seats, gained 1 senate seat, gained 2 governorship

    Trump 2018 40% lost 44 house seats, 3 senate seats, 6 governors

    Obama 2010 42% lost 63 house seats, 6 senate seats, 4 governors

    G.W. Bush 2006 33% lost 33 house seats, 6 senate seats, 6 governors

    Bill Clinton 1994 42% lost 54 house seats, 9 senate seats, 1 governor


    Quite a difference. You can give credit to abortion; I can blame it on Trump and his chosen candidates. The thing is 2022 was unique which I don’t think has happened in the history of this country. The problem is approval ratings only go back to FDR. I think what we have is in our modern political era of polarization, the great divide, the super, mega, ultra-high partisanship, independents vote for the candidates or party they least want to lose, not win as if they had their druthers, both would lose. I think this began around 2006 when independents made up 30% of the electorate which today, independents stand at 42%
     
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    Number of wheel chaired bound people who can walk up a twenty-eight step staircase. 0%
     
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    I think what is more revealing than Exit polls is what are politicians campaigning on. Most of Trump's endorsements won, but they weren't as vocal as the ones that didn't (or newsworthy). Most of the campaigning I saw was about the abortion issue. Politicians don't waste money on issues they don't think will move the needle. The Republicans did a lousy job of countering the abortion misinformation that democrats were spreading.
     
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    A ray of rationality in a sea of madness.
     
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    Like I said, unlike partisans, I don't care who said it....it's an absurd idea. Almost as absurd as thinking there are more than two genders.
     
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    But yet you said absolutely nothing in response to the poster who actually suggested it, and repeatedly argued it against a conservative poster as if they made the post stating it. Good thing I was here to set you straight, bet you won't mention it again now that you know.

    You're welcome.
     
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    I prefer to go by cold hard numbers, although I have been known to go by my gut feelings at times. If you go by most important issues, abortion was at 9% with independents, inflation prices lead the list at 28%. Although there were a bunch of other issues deemed most important. Question 50.


    https://docs.cdn.yougov.com/gebmjsbpbw/econTabReport.pdf


    Abortion lead the list among Democrats at 15% and barely registered among Republicans at 3%. But Democrats are going to vote for Democrats anyway regardless of where the issues stand with them. The same can be said about Republicans. It’s a shame the Trump factor isn’t listed. Those Trump chosen candidates lost in swing states, but won in deep red states. I think that’s important to make that distinction.
     
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    First off you're wrong. The only person that I saw mention security guards is Darth....he ain't a lefty. There may have been someone else who also said it but I didn't see it as I don't read every post. I never accused jcarlilesiu of making the claim about security guards. You made that up in you head. You're so hard up for a gotcha moment you can't even think straight. We are aligned on this trans issue yet you can't even see it due to your emotions.
     
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    The problem with polls is that they aren't consistent measurements of the pulse of the Nation. If they were this poll . . .

    https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/meetthepressblog/five-issues-defined-midterms-rcna55174

    . . . would suggest that the midterms should have favored the Republicans and yet the number one issue on the minds of all voters was jobs and the economy. Which, as I pointed out previously, most people thought we were going in the wrong direction. The third issue was about the cost of living, which is really redundant of #1, followed by abortion as #5 with 17% of independents citing it as a major issue. The fact that it made the grade is nothing to sneeze at. For politicians ignore it would be suicidal for them. As I said, the democrats capitalized on the overturning of Roe and Republicans failed to effectively counter the misinformation spread. My point is that even though jobs and the economy was the number one issue across the board it wasn't reflected in the way the midterms turned out. A Red Wave was predicted on the basis of it and yet there was hardly even a ripple. Obviously, either the polls are wrong or maybe I'm right about a better measurement being what are politicians campaigning over to convince voters to vote for them.
     
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