Army flight surgeon warns pilots could die in flight from vaccine side effects

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    A senior U.S. Army flight surgeon with specialized training in infectious diseases has filed an affidavit against the Biden administration’s vaccine mandate for active-duty military personnel, warning that problematic heart side effects may cause pilots to die in mid-flight.

    Lt. Col. Theresa Long, the surgeon responsible for certifying the fitness of 4,000 flight-ready airmen at the 1st Aviation Brigade in Ft. Rucker, Alabama, said that she is concerned that the vaccines can cause inflamed heart muscles in young men in the age range of most flight-ready pilots, and that the Department of Defense has not followed its own protocols by requiring an MRI scan of each airman after vaccination.

    Because the vaccines produced by Pfizer and Moderna both have been linked to myocarditis, especially in young males between 16-24 years old, it is reasonable to conclude that these shots pose a serious risk to many humans due to direct adverse effect or allergic reaction

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2021/sep/28/senior-army-flight-surgeon-warns-pilots-could-die-/

    Affidavit of second physician Lt. Col Peter Chambers
    Prior to this mission I served as the State of Texas Military Department’s Liaison to the Governor’s Task Force during the initial phase of the COVID Pandemic. During that time I want intimately involved with sifting through the initial data on the early phases of pandemic and assist the team with forecasting responses, procuring PPE and developing projected bed space needs.

    I became intimately involved with the most current data and treatment modalities, as well as early modalities that were met with little improvement to outcome and ranged do extremely deleterious effects on patients. Upon completion of liaison duties I assisted with initiating the statewide mobile testing response.

    10. Like my colleague, LTC Long, I agree that based upon risk stratification along with treatment modalities in existence, the introduction of a substance which is still in a phase III trial is not necessary, and introduces increased risk factors for the known side effects exhibited by this phase III trial.

    11. The mandate placed upon soldiers for a vaccine that is currently not available also posses another problem for me personally and professionally. Based upon the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) vaccine adverse affects websites known as Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System (VAERS) data and my own experience over the last 18 months monitoring, advising and treating COVID patients, I cannot in good conscience nor under the hypocritic oath (do no harm) advise Soldiers to take an unapproved high risk “vaccine” still in a phase III trial. Just one example would be a 24 year old Soldier who presented with chest pain post “vaccine” injection and has subsequently developed myocarditis and was released from mission and currently has the heart pumping function of a normal 70 year old. Other soldiers have exhibited anaphylactic reactions to injections. I can irrefutably say that we must FIRST OF ALL, DO NO HARM.

    12. Current study of regulations, and after discussions with legal counsel has elucidated to many, to include myself, that it would make it an unlawful order to follow a mandate that does not allow for true informed consent as the current vaccine available is still in a phase three trial and offers no guidance per package insert or otherwise. The predominance of evidence exhibiting the untoward effects of this vaccine administration procedure, overwhelmingly will not allow me to allow harm to come to my soldiers, colleagues or any civilian I advise.

    13. I have practiced medicine over 20 years and have been on the front lines of trauma, preventative, austere, and civilian based settings. My experiences during the Texas COVID response allowed me to critically assess and formulate courses of action that have been successful in mitigating COVID in the ranks during my current Border Protection operation. 14. I have a command that is supportive of my position and am doing all I can to develop options for every soldier individually. I do not want another 24-year-old soldier to be taken off mission with a diminished heart function as a result of the COVID injection, or another soldier to suffer long term side effects, like myself, of this vaccine, without being informed of the possible side effects or overall effectiveness of the vaccine versus natural immunity or available therapy.
    https://thetexan.news/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/Peter-Chambers-affadavit.pdf


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    Simple - do a troponin before flight. Even an Istat can do a trop I
     
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    So we are going to now do a troponin and wait for results prior to every flight of every officer on every flight line every day?
    Yeah, that makes sense.

    Or maybe we don't inject 24 year olds who have a 99,8% survival rate with a vaccine that hasn't even made it through trials yet giving them enlarged hearts.
     
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    Istats are portable handheld point of care analysers and it takes around 15 minutes to get a result. Oh! And the risk of damage from Covid myocarditis is much much much higher
     
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    how many vaccinated pilots have died so far because of the vaccine... zero?
     
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    Not according to the flight surgeons at Rucker.
     
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    Sounds like complete BS to me since millions who have been vaccinated have flown with no ill effects.
     
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    Yeah, you would know more than Army flight surgeons.
     
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    And another thing - please look up the pathophysiology of myocarditis and read about the post vaccine myocarditis in particular

    https://www.health.gov.au/sites/def...ricarditis-after-mrna-covid-19-vaccines_1.pdf

    https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2782900
    https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/myocarditis.html

    https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/myo-outcomes.html
     
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    Possibly- has she spent any time in cardiology?
     
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    Being a flight surgeon in the US Army obviously qualifies her to know about myocarditis.

    And she isn't the only Flight surgeon who is filing.

    Affidavit of second physician Lt. Col Peter Chambers
    The mandate placed upon soldiers for a vaccine that is currently not available also posses another problem for me personally and professionally. Based upon the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) vaccine adverse affects websites known as Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System (VAERS) data and my own experience over the last 18 months monitoring, advising and treating COVID patients, I cannot in good conscience nor under the hypocritic oath (do no harm) advise Soldiers to take an unapproved high risk “vaccine” still in a phase III trial. Just one example would be a 24 year old Soldier who presented with chest pain post “vaccine” injection and has subsequently developed myocarditis and was released from mission and currently has the heart pumping function of a normal 70 year old. Other soldiers have exhibited anaphylactic reactions to injections. I can irrefutably say that we must FIRST OF ALL, DO NO HARM.

    Current study of regulations, and after discussions with legal counsel has elucidated to many, to include myself, that it would make it an unlawful order to follow a mandate that does not allow for true informed consent as the current vaccine available is still in a phase three trial and offers no guidance per package insert or otherwise. The predominance of evidence exhibiting the untoward effects of this vaccine administration procedure, overwhelmingly will not allow me to allow harm to come to my soldiers, colleagues or any civilian I advise.

    I have practiced medicine over 20 years and have been on the front lines of trauma, preventative, austere, and civilian based settings. My experiences during the Texas COVID response allowed me to critically assess and formulate courses of action that have been successful in mitigating COVID in the ranks during my current Border Protection operation. 14. I have a command that is supportive of my position and am doing all I can to develop options for every soldier individually. I do not want another 24-year-old soldier to be taken off mission with a diminished heart function as a result of the COVID injection, or another soldier to suffer long term side effects, like myself, of this vaccine, without being informed of the possible side effects or overall effectiveness of the vaccine versus natural immunity or available therapy.
    https://thetexan.news/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/Peter-Chambers-affadavit.pdf
     
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    Ya I laughed :) Some of the things I read here, I TELL YA...
     
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    Why? Why can't you just take a 20 year persons evaluation seriously.. BTW, what's your qualification to refute this 20 year background. WEBMD, internet and really really good with search engines and mouse overs :)

     
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    To die in flight? Like directly from myocarditis or from crashing the plane? Assuming they use co-pilots like the civilians airlines, so both seem unlikely.

    Appeal to authority. Evidence matters. The sources are from people who actually study these things. The skillset of a flight surgeon is not epidemiology and statistics. And the main reason those skillsets matter is actually interpreting the studies, as people on here have demonstrated.

    You polled all army flight surgeons, or you just found one particular one who has fallen to misinformation? Though being in the army probably makes one more susceptible to fox news due to culture. Would sooner trust cardiologists or public health experts. And even then it should be based upon the evidence, not their credentials.
     
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    And your qualifications are?
     
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    I'm a pathologist with an MPH. That said, the only reason it seems to matter is because I can actually interpret the studies.
     
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    Considering how people hang on ever word from Fauci, MSNBCNN and the CDC I smile at your reluctance to other news sources, understandable nonetheless but funny all the same :)
     
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    I'm sure you are, small world, so am I when I'm not dabbling in rocket science... So as a "Well you know" are you really qualified "Hands On" to report side effects of vaccines less then ten months administered ;)

    Come on fool me...
     
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    That isn't the point. A flight officer having a medical issue during a mission is a problem.

    Diagnosing myocarditis is well within the skill set of an Army Flight surgeon. Now your just reaching.

    Nope, you prefer the political stance than you do ANY surgeon that your don't agree with. Thats pretty obvious. And you have no clue what it takes to file against the government as a US Army Flight Surgeon. You're just providing political babble.

    Not to mention we are talking about TWO US Army Flight Surgeons, They have to go to command with their findings and through their proper chain of command before making anything public. Based on a collective US Army Surgeon command review of their findings it goes up the chain until approval if all agree with their findings.
     
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