Artificial Intelligence -AI- Is No More Dangerous Than:

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  1. WillReadmore

    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

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    Nonsense. And, do not ascribe stuff to me when I did not say it.
     
  2. Hey Now

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    But it's possible that you are simply wrong.........one must accept that there are other possibilities.
     
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    That is the opinion of a creator of AI and an expert on the subject. I take his view seriously and yours....not so much.
     
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    Christianity does NOT "let it remain a mystery forever...".

    Christians take specific guidance from THEIR various interpretations of the acts of god and man in the bible.

    In fact, Christians declare themselves to be judges, as Adam declared himself to be by eating the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil.

    Far from recognizing that original sin, Evangelical Protestants see their acts of judgement as a duty, a critical part of their calling.

    You do not get to be the sole source of interpretation of the bible for the rest of humanity.

    Also, like Adam, you don't get to be the judge.
     
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    If you consistently apply your principle up there, you
    will plunge head long into Nihilism -- because you
    could be wrong on the top 5 most important values
    in your life. That means you don't know anything is
    true. And that is pure Nihilism.

    However, its a safe bet that you are NOT going to
    consistently apply your principle. Why is that?
    Because you don't have to. And you don't want to.

    You don't have to because there is no authority anywhere
    that can force you to be consistent. And its to you personal
    advantage to be inconsistent. You pay no price for being
    inconsistent.

    So?

    So you can continue to apply your principle of YOU COULD
    BE WRONG to the points Christians make and that lets you
    off the hook. That means you do not have to seriously pay any
    attention to what the Bible says about your spiritual condition.

    And what does it say?

    It says that unless you believe on the Lord Jesus as your Savior
    you will, when you die, experience John 3:16's perish.

    "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son,
    that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life."

    Note the contrast in John 3:16
    Perish is juxtaposed with eternal life.

    Now note John 3:18

    "Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does
    not believe stands condemned already because they have not
    believed in the name of God’s one and only Son."

    So?

    So you can easily avoid all that and never take it seriously by simply
    posting back and saying:

    "But it's possible that you are simply wrong.........one must accept that
    there are other possibilities."__Hey Now

    JAG

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  6. JAG*

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    Do you understand the principle underlying the relationship
    between Batman and The Joker? Between Patton and Rommel?
    Between Leonidas and Darius? Between Superman and Lex Luthor?
    The point: Enemies. Ideological ENEMIES. Cultural ENEMIES.

    You get it. I know you do.

    JAG

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    Same goes for you.

    Do you understand the principle underlying the relationship
    between Batman and The Joker? Between Patton and Rommel?
    Between Leonidas and Darius? Between Superman and Lex Luthor?
    The point: Enemies. Ideological ENEMIES. Cultural ENEMIES.

    You get it. I know you do.

    JAG

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    A lot of text but zero actual rebuttal, you simply can be wrong. That possibility exists, sorry.
     
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    Your "a lot of text" is your way of dismissing the truth out of hand quickly so that
    you don't have to deal with it.

    I did rebut your principle.

    "If you consistently apply your principle up there, you
    will plunge head long into Nihilism -- because you
    could be wrong on the top 5 most important values
    in your life. That means you don't know anything is
    true. And that is pure Nihilism."

    On your principle that means that if you believe:
    Anybody on this earth loves you --you could be wrong.
    That cold bloodied murder for money-profit is wrong -- you could be wrong on that.
    That Hitler was an evil man --you could be wrong about that.
    That armed robbery is evil -- you could be wrong on that.
    You assume that the secularist position that there is no such thing as Gehenna (Hell) --
    you could be wrong about that.

    Another example:
    On your lights of Bob is happily married with a wife and three children
    and believes that he is the father of those three children, Bob could be
    wrong about that.

    But like I said up-thread you will not be consistent with your principle.
    You will pick and choose where to apply it and you will apply it
    where it suits your personal advantage and you will refuse to apply
    it when it does NOT suit your personal advantage.

    Yet its a good bet that you will continue to announce to the world
    that you are intellectually honest.

    JAG

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  10. WillReadmore

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    You can hate other religious beliefs all you want, I suppose. That is up to you.

    But, we can not afford to have this hate continue (or worsen) within our population.

    That is what our founders noted and responded to by separating our government from religious systems of belief.
     
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    You get to contribute.

    BUT, you are NOT the arbiter. Even your own religion points out in Genesis that you are not the judge, and that believing you are is the original sin.
     
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    Dismissing "truth"? Is your claim of religious "rightiousness" truth or merely a chosen belief? If it's chosen, the reasons are irrelevant, you most definitely are capable of simply being wrong. As for intellectual honesty, I say this is who you tell yourself you really are when you can't get past blind faith. Projection is after all confession. Now run along and pat yourself if needed for comfort.
     
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    The accusation of hate is nothing more than your bull manure.
    I never said I hated anybody.

    If you can do it -- I can do it.
    You HATE.
    Your posts reek of HATE.
    Get rid of YOUR HATE, WillReadmore.
    Stop posting HATE.

    JAG

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  14. Hey Now

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    A great example^ of debate devolvement when challenged and there is no logical place to go.
     
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    You run along.

    JAG
     
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    See post above....#39:)
     
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    Now I know who you really are.
    You will say anything.
    And when you use the word "logical" everybody ought to Laugh Out Loud.

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    Why?
    I no longer take you seriously.

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    Challenged on the topic and self reduced to flailing and flaming those that cornered the belief system. How quickly it occured should be illuminating once you clean that dirty mirror. LAST, thread bump, enjoy the sandbox.
     
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    I suggested that you can have your beliefs! You can't interpret that as hate.

    What I pointed out is that we have to get along. We have to respect the differing cultures, beliefs about religion, etc. that are held by our diverse population. Our founders recognized that and thus drew a line between government and religion. Even at that time they had serious diversity in religious belief.

    And, I also pointed out that you can't be the judge of what is truth or what is intellectually honest, etc.

    Your own Genesis warns against your decision to be the judge.
     
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    You don't tell the truth about what you said:
    You said:
    "You can hate other religious beliefs all you want, I suppose. That is up to you.

    But, we can not afford to have this hate continue (or worsen) within our population.


    That is what our founders noted and responded to by separating our government from religious systems of belief."__WillReadmore

    JAG

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    There are hundreds of interesting people on the Internet.
    to talk to -- people that can make some measurable
    contribution to the journey. You are not one of them.

    I don't know you and don't want to get to know you.

    I am now putting you on permanent IGNORE and
    in just a few short days you will have permanently
    passed out of my memory and in my world you will
    no longer exist.

    Matthew 7:6

    JAG

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  23. Hey Now

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    Much more likely sandbox mentality simply is too top heavy to handle rational and truth. Enbrace "intolerance", the devil loves it.
     
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