Ask a Mormon....almost anything.

No, it existed, but it wasn't exactly playing with a full deck of cards. But yes, once the Savior returns for his second coming he'll be here for a 1000 years.

Battle of Gog Magog and such, yes.

 

... I was referring to the first coming when jesus esablished his 1000 year kingdom in the time of that generation which see all those events fulfilled.
[Matt 24:34 Verily I say unto you, This generation (of 32AD) shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.]

I see the Second Coming as that which Christians await when the Renaissance of the beast has "for a little season been loosed"

... till the thousand years (of the Dark Age of Monasticism) should be fulfilled (and the Renaissance of the Beast begin):

and after that, (in The Renaissance), he must be loosed (to open the adolescent subculture of ever increasing sexual permissiveness) a little season (since the end of the singular one Church over all Rome).

 

He did not reign for a thousand years, his gospel, however butchered it may have been might have, it did wield significant political power, and still does in some respects.

You are missing something big, like a gigantic war that engulfs the bulk of the world, it has still yet to occur. Your interpretation, although fascinating, is only an interpretation. And frankly, it doesn't add up.

There other things that have to happen as well before his 1000 year reign begins as well. Like the prophets being slain in Jerusalem who essentially have super powers. As well as their resurrection shortly after wards. There are a lot of things that have yet to happen.

Really, I have no idea where you're getting this stuff.

 

Okay so "later"...was Brigham guilty of a sin of polygamy or did he have "eternal immunity" despite the new law being in effect?

 

Tolkein ? He did help write a bible..

 

Well, given that he was dead, I don't think it much matters since the laws were passed after his death I believe - I could be wrong. But I suspect he would be 'grandfathered in', like an assault weapon owner after an assault weapons ban.

And really what sense would that make? New law passes, "okay girls, get out." Now you have a fleet of women who cannot support themselves and a load of children. Makes no sense. I suppose ex post facto would be in effect as well. Not too sure on that one

But did he sin? No, he had authorization in the current time period.

 

It's not like he's threatening death to the authors...... (like what would happen if other major religions were lambasted) Can't he voice a dislike and a concern about inaccuracy?

 

Good answer Gemini_Fyre!

I am curious if as a Mormon your reaction to the question of supporting the Jewish people in their desire to rebuild their Jerusalem Third Temple might differ substantially from the feeling of the average North American Christian?


http://www.politicalforum.com/relig...ay-least-expensive-way-stabilize-climate.html

For the record I find that Mormons are substantially more likely to have read man apocryphal writings such as The Book of Jasher, The Book of Enoch, The Book of Adam and Eve. I personally am glad when I run into Christians who have researched these amazing writings!

I also like the fact that Mormons tend to take near death experience accounts more seriously than the majority of non-Mormons tend to do!

 

No, it aint certified whatsoever.

 

I will not support the nation of israel in anything if I can help it. But if they want to build a temple - go for it.

I have read some of the apocrypha, but not all of it. I have not taken the time to become as familiar with it as I ought to have in all truth. But I have looked at some of the book of Jasher and find it amusing just how beautiful Joseph was considered. Potipher's wife was a total ho if you ask me.

Really depends on the account really. Because some of them are clearly an imagination, others are much more credible as they line up with doctrine much better. The moment people start saying that "Winged Angels came down to help me" I begin to roll my eyes.

 

Well I meant his "soul" if you will. But on your last sentence-

"But did he sin? No, he had authorization in the current time period."

So does that work in reverse too? Could God "change his mind" and be okay with abortion beyond this "current time period"?

 

As for his soul? I would wager he is just fine.

I suspect no. But at times God is okay with genocide too if we refer to the OT. But in general he is very opposed to killing that are outside of very strict parameters. Abortion for the LDS church? Pretty big no-no in general, with very few exceptions. LDS church is not very keen on elective abortions at all.

 

whats the best way to offend a mormon?

 

Hmmm....

...killing yourself. Because then they would be denied the opportunity to preach to you. So by all means, do so, I promise I'll be offended too.

Of course you could always try backhanding one of them in the face. But that might get you backhanded in return. Not many are good at turning the other cheek. Many are quite skilled at returning the favor though.

Any other retarded questions Leroy?

 

whats the thread count of your most treasured underpants

 

The amount of yours...+2.

 

Well, NOW....but if God changed his mind....and of course communicated his desire to support pro-choice like he communicaed his abandonment of support for polygamy to his opposition to polygamy....the LDS Church would have to go along with God and support abortion rights.....right?

BTW....how DID God tell the LDS Church that having more than one wife was a no-no? It was the 19th Century, so we know it wasn't fax or e-mail.

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BTW, do you mind a future hypothetical?

 

The church does as God directs. Exceptions being the individuals personal failing.

The odds of abortion support happening are minute at best. If it is evil, it will not be done. I suspect God's approach to abortion is what is currently church policy.

Revelation via the prophet of the time, who then relays said commands to the church.

I suppose, as long as it isn't completely wonky and quasi realistic.

 

Much respect to Gemini_Fyre for even starting this thread. I read the first few posts and whatever was on page 22, I'm going to assume that most the comments were patronizing and completely disrespectful through the entire thread. I grew up in Southern Idaho where the lds population was about 50% of the whole, mormons are just people. They run the spectrum like others do, some are great people and some are dicks. The most devout can come off as snobby especially if in a large group of other very devout lds. At the same time I've seen bible thumpers in Oklahoma be just a stuck up. The exclusivity that older members of my family complain about(that I didn't really witness as much) is probably my biggest gripe about them. After that, they are some of the most disciplined people I have been around. They have the best family values, and live some of the cleanest lives. Again these are my own generalizations about only the strictest lds. My lds friends who didn't go to church and weren't devout, drank just as much beer as I did in high school. Half of the people I knew for 21 years were lds, and if you lived next to a mormon you wouldn't know they were unless they told you. Being a jerk to someone who believes in things you find silly when they don't affect you is far worse than believing in silly things yourself.

I'm Methodist and haven't been to church since I was 13.
The easiest way to offend a mormon.......if you were slightly more mature in this conversation I'd tell you.

 

Gemini_Fyre.....let me guess.......you asked the Ancient of Days/The God of Abraham and/or Rabbi Jesus/Yehoshua for wisdom more than once a year or.......you did so with exceptional chutzpah and/or enthusiasm.....haven't you??????

I did it back in 1990 a few months after my dad died.....I began to suspect that I was an ignorant, self-righteous deeply religious twit......but I didn't know which of my deeply cherished beliefs were the most phenomenally stupid....so I asked for Wisdom???!!!

The last 23 years have been more than a little rough.....but ....Gracias a Dios that I can now rip apart even theories that I held too tightly too even as recent as five years ago!


I would be honoured to get your opinion on any subject that I have gotten into here....or in any other discussion forum!

You may find this discussion at least somewhat challenging:


http://www.politicalforum.com/relig...essage-gods-has-many-plans-gay-community.html

NDE message that God's has many plans for the Gay Community???
When I first read the following message I was rather puzzled!

It took me about five years to begin to understand some of the specific plans that God obviously has for the Gay Community at this critical time in history!


http://www.near-death.com/andreason.html#nine
Christian Andreason:

 

Well said Illun!

Yes....I haven't read all of this discussion yet....but the parts that I did read.....he did an amazing job!

 

Good answer Gemini_Fyre!

What do you think the probability is of an average political wannabe like myself talking the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints into printing up LDS TEmple Dollars or a Utah State currency unit or something along that line????


https://www.facebook.com/notes/west...1199364486?goback=.gde_78629_member_189241091
Proposal for the creation of a Quebec provincial currency unit to save coastal communities from threat of rising ocean levels.

In my opinion it is going to cost trillions of dollars to do what needs to be done to protect towns like Truro, and Antigonish, Nova Scotia from the consequences of the cracking and sliding of a large part of the West Antarctic Ice Sheet and the land based Greenland Ice Pack into the ocean.

The province of Alberta attempted to create its own provincial currency unit during The Great Depression but enormous pressure was exerted to ensure that their experiment in monetary policy was unsuccessful.

The province of Quebec seems to be in much better position to create its own provincial currency unit without facing the massive backlash from the financial community and federal government that Alberta experienced.

Dr. James Hansen has stated that the last time that global temperatures rose by three degrees ocean levels rose by 25 meters over four centuries. Canada and the world are NOT yet prepared for ocean rise of one meter every twenty years.

Nearly one hundred million people in Bangladesh alone will become climate change refugees in the event of merely a one meter rise in ocean levels!

 

Um....I don't know exactly what to make of this one... I do consult God though, with varying frequencies and intensities. Some questions require more sacrifice.

In the grand scheme of things, while still in the mortal coil, the true height of our massive ignorance will always be unknown. Until we cross the veil that is.

Don't be, like you, I am just another guy on a keyboard. Nothing special about me, I have plenty of personal flaws.

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You may find this discussion at least somewhat challenging:


http://www.politicalforum.com/relig...essage-gods-has-many-plans-gay-community.html

NDE message that God's has many plans for the Gay Community???
When I first read the following message I was rather puzzled!

It took me about five years to begin to understand some of the specific plans that God obviously has for the Gay Community at this critical time in history!


http://www.near-death.com/andreason.html#nine
Christian Andreason:[/QUOTE]

I'll address this in the thread it sprang from.

 

I got another discussion going Saturday that I think explains reasonably well how the Mormon church is in a good position to initiate programs that have the potential to save millions of lives over the coming decades and centuries:


http://www.christianforums.com/t7735229/

Unified Theory of Modern World Problems??!!

 

Are mormons christian?
Do they worship jesus as the christ?