At least 25 public schools, districts pushing kids' book featuring 'Whiteness' contract with devil:

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  1. stone6

    stone6 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Agreed...but the teachers need to be aware of it to spot it occurring and correct it. There are people whose "ethnic identity" is the only thing they have going for themselves and often abuse whatever privilege it is they think they have. I remember the time when the Southern intelligentsia blamed racial prejudice on white trash.
     
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    one can follow something without taking it as an honest source
     
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    A lot of the improvement in race relations is a result of anti-racism work by teachers.
     
  4. stone6

    stone6 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Good.
     
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    A couple things.

    Not all white liberals care, have read, or are even aware of this book. This is the first time I've heard of it. I guess thanks for bringing it to my attention.

    While it's plain to everyone America has racial issues to work out, not everyone will agree on how to teach those issues to children. Some may favor books of this nature, others may not. I don't have a problem with fictionalizing incidents that teach about racism. I don't know if I care much one way or the other about this book. Take that however you like.

    The abject denial that race is a problem in this country is the true hate of one's country and self. Being honest about your flaws is embracing who we are. It's the first step towards striving towards the ideals many who oppose teaching about racism claim to cherish. You cannot achieve the ideal that all are created equal if you ignore the reality that some are treated better than others by the very system that claims to not do that.

    On the plus side, this book has sparked a conversation here so perhaps you gave the book more power than it had if you had just ignored it? Same with Fox news. That's the tricky thing with information, it's a double edged sword.
     
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    Can you tell me what they are teaching? I'm not seeing lesson plans and I don't know which class a CRT curriculum would be taught in.

    At best, it is as the quote above (#31) says, "It is an approach or lens through which an educator can help students examine the role of race and racism in American society."
     
  7. Kal'Stang

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    When was the last time you taught? Every time you've brought this up its always in the past tense. And even then your instance is personal experience. Anecdotal. The school my kids go to don't teach CRT either. That doesn't mean that there are not other schools that are not.

    So, no kid trusts teachers and never learns anything from them as a result? That is the essence of what you are saying.

    Such as....suggested reading materials?

    How many video's should I link to for you to believe its not just a "few rightwing activists"?

    Which would only help if the system is not supporting such nonsense.

    Not hard since that section you are showing does not limit teachers/students to using only material provided by the State. Nothing in it mentions students using news sources. What it does limit is schools accepting private money. Its much like the law preventing government employees from using their position to advocate for X politician/idea that is currently in place on a federal level. They can advocate for such stuff...just not while they are representing the government. If you have no problem with that law, then you should not have a problem with the section you quoted.
     
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    You are actually going to try to MARGINALIZE this?????? REALLY????? You are desperately going to try and find some "offset" in some asserted white racism?

    Here's how to address it, fire every official who had ANYTHING to do with this racist publication being introduced into the school. You don't disagree with that do you?
     
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    Yeah, what ESL student t wrote the header?
     
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    Bold, that's basically it right there. They're not teaching exactly word for word or a set curriculum of what CRT is. Which is law related. They are teaching an (for lack of a better word) interpretation of it. The OP gives a perfect example of what is being talked about. That book has been suggested reading material for young children. And that book is based off of the author's interpretation of CRT.

    Lets see if I can give an example of what I'm talking about.

    Let's use the King James Bible as an example. For the longest time that is what was "followed". But there are literally thousands of different church groups teaching it in a way that doesn't align with other churches interpretations. Some are more strict. Some are less. Some are the same but still different. But they all still have a commonality. The Kings James Bible. God. Jesus, Genesis etc etc.

    This is how CRT is being taught. Even among just law students there are still different interpretations of it. But the over all message is the same. Then you bring in a social justice activist teachers who know nothing about law but read about CRT and draw their own conclusions about it without any formal education in it. And they bring that to their classroom. You or a professional might not consider it strictly "CRT" because its not teaching the same exact thing you would find in a college/university level, but it is still founded upon it. That is why I added the links I did in post 31.
     
  11. LangleyMan

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    It's yet another unbelievable rightwing extremist lie. Get that? A lie. For whatever reason, you bought it.

    White kids told they're racist and that they should be ashamed of themselves? The idea that garbage wouldn't be opposed by the students themselves, probably in the classroom, is absurd. You quite obviously have no understanding of what goes on in high schools.
    Suggested by whom? The teacher? The school? A third party providing or selling materials? I want to see what students are required to read and how it's incorporated in the teacher's lessons.
    A lot more when there are 100,000 schools in the United States.
    All of the offensive materials can be put online, so not treating the websites as "private funding" would make the law a laughingstock.
     
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    Perhaps you missed the part about Pre-K and then the dash symbol - 12? They're starting them young. Why would all the high school students be opposed if that is what they've heard since Pre-K?

    And I've already posted one video of a kid hollering about it in another thread. You dismissed it as the kid lying.

    All of the above. Look at post 23. I provided a link to a school website. Look under Elementary K-5 tab. Follow the links. You will find the book from the OP as being part of the same page linked to for suggested reading.

    In other words more than you know I will even bother trying to provide. Or any one individual. In the mean time those individuals will just be labeled as being "bought" into it and dismissed. To actually prove such to the kind of satisfaction that you're looking for would take a small army of people investigating this whole thing. Which you know will not be done. Especially by Democrats since its considered a "rightwing extremist lie".

    What's ironic is that if CNN/ABC/MSNBC says something happened according to an anonymous source then its taken for gospel. (not necessarily referring to you here LangleyMan)

    Incorrect. The schools are not allowed to accept private funding. There is nothing in the law about students buying books for themselves based on suggested reading. There's nothing in it about teachers buying the books to provide for their students either. Its a narrowly tailored law. It does not affect the students themselves. Or the teachers using their own money.
     
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    So, now you would have us believe this has been going on for more than a decade, brainwashed small children don't talk about race with their moms and dads, and parents of six-year-olds wouldn't go ballistic if their child said the teacher told them they should be ashamed of themselves?
    One kid?
    One school website? I told you there will always be rogue teachers. The way to deal with them is management removing them from the classroom.
    OMG. You're killing me with this stuff! A kid is going to spend his or her own money on "suggested reading materials" that tell them they should be ashamed?
    I put my entire history course online twenty years ago. I used tons of websites around even back then to look at original documents. I had my own website that with reading material I created. There was a section for parents about what was expected of students, the approach to teaching history, how they could reach me, etc.

    If Texas isn't concerned about online sources, they're asleep at the switch.
     

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