"Atheism Produces Evil on Incredible Levels"

Fictional according to the atheist.

 

huh? It is in your world. Muslims took the Jewish God of Abraham and made their own version of it.
So, it's not in my world. I ain't in no muslim world.

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Vishnu. Vishnu is the one true creator God. He came 1st.

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He's not an atheist. He just said he believes Thor is God.

 

And how exactly did they make a version of God? The God of Abraham is the very same God of Islam.

Except that Vishnu shares his throne with other gods. There is only one God, and all of His creation is obedient to Him.

Thor cannot be God, as he is a pagan god with paganistic features and qualities.

 

Very well, no reason to not get along with Israel. You should all be best friends.

You sure? If so, they are lesser gods, he created.

Only your opinion. Your abraham god is pagan to all other gods.

 

But none of that makes any difference. Monotheism is just another variation. One god, two gods, a hundred gods. There number isn't magical, any more than a name or a book is. It's merely what you personally elect to believe about your personal god. Beyond your nose every god is equal.

 

The Arab-Israeli conflict has nothing to do with religion.

God is perfect; Vishnu is evidently not. He can't even create, lol.

That doesn't make sense. God is by definition not paganistic.

 

The numbers do matter. Only the concept of one God makes sense, because perfection is absolute.

 

You don't know what perfection is. You're using an opinion of perfection to justify your opinion in the existence of a single God.

 

I prefer this view of perfection.

"Perfection" is a rhetorical trick. A wil-o-wisp that you chase into a swamp of impossible ends. Perfection is an imaginary beast like the unicorn, concocted by Plato, and perpetuated by his bastard children, the modern religions.

Perfection is a tool of self-torture and self-induced enslavement. It is the father you can never please, the wet hillside you can never peak, the nightmare hallway that stretches before you, faster than you can run.

Perfection is a means to isolation and failure. For as long as he is the one we seek, we ignore or rebuke the "good enough", who are our fellow travellers, and our journey ends in nothing but bitter regret.

Perfection is not an absolute or a relative term. It is a fiction. A lie. A false friend, and a vicious enemy of the good.

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How is it an opinion?

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So...what's your point?

 

No one knows what perfection is. Actual perfection- at least as a singular universal reference- probably doesn't even exist considering that perfection is a subjective adjective. You could say your wife is perfect while many others would disagree. You can say your God or a God is "perfect", but what does that even mean? How is he perfect? How do you know this?

Basically, you haven't used any facts, you've just used opinions.

1. A God exists...

2. One God exists...

3. God is perfect...

4. Perfection is absolute...

 

If God is absolute perfection, then it couldn't have created an imperfect world, could it?

 

they only matter to YOU, again. to the Hindu, multiple gods matter as much as one god matters to you.

to imagine that your authority is greater than the Hindu's, in this regard, is merely a vanity. the world is teeming with named and described gods of one sort or another. thinking yours is 'more' than others is like thinking you don't sh#t and eat and sleep the same way the rest of humanity does.

 

Perfection is an illusion. Fiction. Even in a god.

You say god is perfection. In comparison to what. If there is only one god how do you know he is perfect.

A god who orders his people to rape, brutally murder others of his own creation is not, IMO, perfect.

 

I do not think even Atheists deny Reality exists, nor will they ever admit that Truth is not actually am explanation of and for Realities, either.
We have just been asking Atheists if they believe our "stories" or religious teachings on this matter.

 

No, that can not be true, because Truth is like god, in His image.

Muslims will say Allah is Truth, one of His names, but Truth has a father, one called Reality.
Islam says Allah is one, not Reality with a son called Truth.

Islam does not worship Reality, but a god of force.

 

Why do Christians deny Allah & Yahweh are the same god? Muslims don't deny it. Jews don't deny it. What gives? Is it genuinely ignorance of the history of your own faith? Or is it more wish-thinking?

 

They're not the same god. Not from a historical perspective. YHWH was a mountain god in a pantheon of gods. That's why so much of the OT (important parts) occurs on or near mountains.

Allah was a moon god in a pantheon of Arabic gods. Hence their symbol. They are not derived from the same entity.

 

All 3 claim abraham's God as their God. That is nothing that can be disputed. So, they all believe in the same being. Just believe different on afterlife and how to achieve it.

 

that may all be true ... but sensible Christians, Jews, & Muslims all claim it's the same god.

it's only the most ignorant Christian who doesn't actually realise this (and if they don't know even that fundamental of their faith, what else don't they know?). and then there are those who deny it because they think it diminishes their god. dilutes him, as it were. both types are labouring under a fairly substantial misapprehension.

 

The numbers do matter, religious people started out with dozens of gods and they get closer to the real number (0) all the time.

 

I wasn't aware Singapore banned religion in the past. I'm aware Jehovah's Witnesses has been banned.

Got any links?

 

I'm going by the textbook definition of perfection.

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Too bad humans have free will.

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Vanity? No. Logic? Yes.

 

No one knows what perfection is. What I mean is as an abstract idea, we can say perfection is this or that, but without being able to describe or articulate that beyond general vagueries, you can't say that something or another is perfect because you have no idea of what perfection is.

That's an opinion, really, when you actually dig into the science, but I don't see how a God really has anything to do with that. If you are saying that God gave people free will, that doesn't make sense, because you don't give people free will then give them laws that restricts that free will, and then punish them severely for transgressing those laws.

 

Is it because of human free will that 99.999% of the universe is uninhabitable by life as we know it?