Austin Orders Renaming of Bases that Honor Confederate Rebels

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  1. FatBack

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    This is true they constantly call us racist country and stolen land and all of that jazz.

    But then again the Indians said that man cannot own the land so that means it's not stolen land because you cannot steal something someone doesn't own!
     
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    And it continues...

    These Southern National Guard Units to Toss Confederate Battle Streamers

    Contemporary National Guard units that were a part of the Confederacy and waged war against the United States during the Civil War will have to relinquish their battle streamers from guidons this year, according to an internal Army memo reviewed by Military.com.

    The move is consistent with recommendations from the congressionally mandated Naming Commission, a committee formed to examine the Pentagon's references honoring rebels who seceded from the United States, largely to preserve and expand slave labor.

    At least 48 units from mostly southern National Guard units have been directed to remove Confederate battle streamers from their units' guidons, which serve as ceremonial flags often held by a soldier in a formation. Streamers hang on top of a unit's flag and are awarded for participating in wars or specific battles ranging from the colonial era to the Global War on Terrorism. In total, there are 491 streamers set to be removed.



    Interesting that these units had these streamers all this time and now it's an issue.
     
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    I am fine with it. This process of naming and memorializing really has zero to do with 'teaching history'. You can learn more with an article in wiki than you do these bronze encraved paragraphs at its a lot more objective. Yes I realize thats a very low bar, but....
     
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    Bit by bit we are erasing our own history.
     
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    Erasing our history diminishes our national pride and leaves a vacuum that the leftists plan to fill and remake the nation in the their radical way.
     
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    I don't think this is right. While the south may have been wrong about slavery, these were just warriors who happened to live on the wrong side of the line. They should be judged as warriors (including their significance), not for where they came from. One could argue that the South really should have become its own nation, and it was wrong of Lincoln to sacrifice lives to keep them.
     
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    Well I find it interesting that the current generation, 150 years after the Civil War, is more traumatized about it than the generation that actually fought it. Both sides actually wanted to reconcile at that the time and worked hard to do that. Now we want to throw that away. Weird.
     
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    I have no problem with this whatsoever.
     
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    Ft Rucker is now named Fort Novosel, after a Medal of Honor winner. "Mother Novosel" just doesn't have the same ring as "Mother Rucker".

    I wonder what DC will be named when someone realizes George Washington owned slaves. The next generation will probably know nothing about him. The wokists will have future generations believing that the Constitution and the Founders never existed.
     
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    Kendi DC?
     
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    That is the point. Break down traditions, a national set of morals, etc., and then re-invent it with a lot of fantasy cult rubbish. It is not just Communists who aim for that, giant multi-national corporations also have a vested interest in that destruction. Look at the list of them who signed up to support the BLM thuggery, calling for assassinations of police officers and other BS.
     
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    Oh, they have to change DC also. As it is named after the leader of the Genocide, Columbus.
     
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    Lincoln didn't start the Civil War over slavery. He said so himself. He also didn't keep it a secret why he started it.

    "But what am I to do in the meantime with those men at Montgomery [meaning the Confederate constitutional convention]? Am I to let them go on... [a]nd open Charleston, etc., as ports of entry, with their ten-percent tariff. What, then, would become of my tariff?" ~ Lincoln to Colonel John B. Baldwin, deputized by the Virginian Commissioners to determine whether Lincoln would use force, April 4, 1861.

    "You and I both anticipated that the cause of the country would be advanced by making the attempt to provision Fort Sumter, even if it should fail ; and it is no small consolation now to feel that our anticipation is justified by the result. "
    Abraham Lincoln, in a letter to Gustavus Fox, May 1, 1861

    "We have no doubt, and all the circumstances prove, that it was a cunningly devised scheme, contrived with all due attention to scenic display and intended to arouse, and, if possible, exasperate the northern people against the South.... We venture to say a more gigantic conspiracy against the principles of human liberty and freedom has never been concocted. Who but a fiend could have thought of sacrificing the gallant Major Anderson and his little band in order to carry out a political game? Yet there he was compelled to stand for thirty-six hours amid a torrent of fire and shell, while the fleet sent to assist him, coolly looked at his flag of distress and moved not to his assistance! Why did they not? Perhaps the archives in Washington will yet tell the tale of this strange proceeding.... Pause then, and consider before you endorse these mad men who are now, under pretense of preserving the Union, doing the very thing that must forever divide it." ~ The New York Evening Day-Book, April 17, 1861.
     

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