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  1. Bowerbird

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    Yep there it is! The classic ploy off a Brandolini game.
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    Sorry, but that's just a large rock behind which to hide and dodge the fact-based comments of others, with references cited and linked.
     
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    No, I simply tire of the game of “refuse to validate my claims”. But I will be fair - how about YOU research this so called “enhanced CO2 hypothesis” and get back to us with the “links” that “prove” this strawman hypothesis exists.
     
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    Why bother. You will just claim that it has never been posted two weeks from now.
     
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    Well I have never seen your links and the phrase does not google to anything specific so………….
     
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    Do all people in Australia have this much of a problem with the English language?

    "Enhanced" refers to increased. "CO2" refers to a gas commonly referred to by climate nutters as a "Greenhouse gas". All because of a speculative and as yet unproven "hypothesis" (a common scientific term for a working assumption that the scientist then does experiments to try to disprove. If the hypothesis survives experimentation, it will then become gradually accepted as proven enough to be relied on as "fact").

    In other words, it's everything you believe but have yet to prove.
     
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    Nonsense. You never engage at all.
    The "enhanced CO2 hypothesis" is, as far as I can tell, simply one poster's personal shorthand for orthodox AGW theory. My own take is that this is readily apparent to anyone who is not just trying to obstruct the discussion.
     
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    Yes. Actually from Javier Vinos's book on the Winter Gatekeeper Hypothesis.

    Vinós, Javier. Solving the Climate Puzzle: The Sun's Surprising Role (p. 82). Critical Science Press. Kindle Edition.
     
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    See, you are guessing, well sorry but science works on data not guesses
     
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    Then for heavens sake next time use the term “Winter Gatekeeper” hypothesis as that might be searchable in
    Google (might be).
    Okay now the author is NOT a climate scientist but a “neurobiologist” and as one reviewer stated “his self published book is incompetent pseudoscience lols!
     
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    The "enhanced CO2 effect hypothesis" has nothing to do with the "winter gatekeeper hypothesis".

    Again attack the source. The pattern continues. So I assume that you do not believe that the "enhanced CO2 effect hypothesis" is true?
     
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    Your “source” is a crackpot who has a self published book (not peer reviewed) which by the even the short excerpt you have provided sounds more like a treatise on how to build strawmen”.

    So tell me, how can someone who isn’t even a climate scientist be right when thousands of scientists from hundreds of different organisations across more than 180 countries are wrong?
     
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    Do you agree with the “enhanced CO2 effect hypothesis” or not?
     
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    This forum is not “science” but rather a discussion site where common sense conversation is more appropriate than pedantic evasion.
     
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    Vinos discusses the “enhanced CO2 hypothesis.” It is not his Winter Gatekeeper Hypothesis.
     
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    Our fine Scientists at MIT do a great job explaining CO2 causation today versus the Earth’s geological history.

    https://climate.mit.edu/ask-mit/todays-climate-change-similar-natural-warming-between-ice-ages

    Is today's climate change similar to the natural warming between ice ages?

    The cause of today’s climate change is also different from the planetary forces that set off the breaks between ice ages. In past cycles, changes to the Earth’s rotation kicked off warming by increasing the sunlight reaching icy parts of the Earth. As ice melted, the Earth became less reflective, and retained more of the sun’s heat. That warming led carbon dioxide to move from the ocean into the atmosphere, promptingmore warming.

    But today, the cause is reversed: by burning fossil fuels, we have put large amounts of CO2into the atmosphere very quickly, and that has spurred warming
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    Hardly a crackpot, and his books are published by Critical Science Press.
    Javier Vinós: books, biography, latest update
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    About the author
    Dr. Javier Vinós has spent decades researching neurobiology and cancer at the Howard Hughes Medical Institute, the University of California, UK's Medical Research Council, and the Spanish Scientific Research Council. His scientific publications have been cited over 1,200 times by his peers. In 2015 concerns over the effects of the indisputable climate change that is taking place led him to study climate science. Since then he has consulted thousands of scientific articles, and analyzed data for dozens of climate variables and hundreds of climate proxies, becoming an expert in natural climate change.

    “Almost always the men who achieve these fundamental inventions of a new paradigm have been either very young or very new to the field whose paradigm they change. And perhaps that point need not have been made explicit, for obviously these are the men who, being little committed by prior practice to the traditional rules of normal science, are particularly likely to see that those rules no longer define a playable game and to conceive another set that can replace them.”
    ― Thomas S. Kuhn, The Structure of Scientific Revolutions
     
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    He’s a Neurologist, not a Climate Scientist. According to this summary, he has published no peer reviewed climate Science articles. But then he writes a book? I guess that explains his motivation.
     
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    So what? Many of the more prominent figures in climate science had their training in other fields.
     
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    Cite one that has published ZERO peer reviewed papers.
     
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    Vinos has published numerous peer-reviewed papers.
    Javier VINÓS | Doctor of Philosophy | Research profile
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    https://www.researchgate.net › profile › Javier-Vinos

    This book is an unorthodox ground-breaking scientific study on natural climate change and its contribution to ongoing multi-centennial global warming. The book ...
     
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    The present warming cycle that the earth is now in is very similar to the 9 previous warming cycles half of which have reached a higher temperature at a higher rate of warming. The "enhanced CO2 effect" has been disproven by use of the scientific method.
     
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    The papers aren’t Climate Science.
     
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    The only thing disproved is your bias - over and over.
     
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    Of course they are.
     

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