Best-Sourced Documentary on 9/11 Truth Yet: "September 11 - The New Pearl Harbor"

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  1. Munkle

    Munkle Active Member

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    The viral documentary, getting to half a million hits on Youtube alone. Remarkable that even now 13 years later, some of the best documentary work is just getting done, which utterly decimates the official story. Rivals "JFK to 9/11 - Everything is a Rich Man's Trick" in factual storytelling.

    I posted part 3 first, because it jumps right into Ground Zero. I would call this the definitive volume of what 9/11 Truthers are saying, without the phony "holograms" and "aliens" diversions of the shills. If you honestly want to know, watch this.

    The film shows that the conspirators badly miscalculated - the Truth Movement is not only not fading away, it just keeps getting stronger and more persuasive. If you don't see this before you die you'll never know what reallly happened in your lifetime.


    [video=youtube;DegLpgJmFL8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DegLpgJmFL8[/video]

    [video=youtube;O1GCeuSr3Mk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1GCeuSr3Mk[/video]

    [video=youtube;K7mDXHn_byA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7mDXHn_byA[/video]
     
  2. Tram Law

    Tram Law Banned

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    oh, the usual horsecrap by the so called truthers.

    What a crock.
     
  3. Munkle

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    LOL when the 9/11 "conspiracy" sub-forum smokes the general politics sections, as people gravitiate toward the truth no matter where they try to hide it.
     
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    Thats a pretty well constructed documentary all things considered.

    I like this one too:

    [video=youtube;yuC_4mGTs98]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuC_4mGTs98[/video]

    It does a really good job of exposing how debunking have changed to nothing more than 'pantomime posers'.
     
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    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    why do you hate truth?
     
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    MisterMet New Member Past Donor

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    I can't watch your video right now, but can you tell me what people in your camp believe right now? The US gov't was behind it? Explosives in the buildings? Were there planes? Who was flying them? And, why did whoever is behind it, do it?
     
  7. Tram Law

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    I hate stupidity and irrational behavior, which is all you guys have.

    Why do you persist when you've been completely debunked and proven to be a pack of dishonest cretins?
     
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    Blues63 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Best sourced documentary? Christ! The spin they come up with to push their junk is just stupid.

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    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    you obviously have truthers confused with PPs.

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    no its physics
     
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    PPs?

    Sounds like a man's body part.

    And no I don't. I've read a lot of Truther literature, and there's a lot of dishonesty there.

    For example, the guy who claims that there were nano particles of explosives in the dust from WTC won't release the samples he took to science so they can run the experiments and see for themse4lves. That's how science works. All he did was release his results and expects you to take his word for it.

    But that is going off topic and is the subject for the conspiracy section.

    As for me, I'm not entirely closed to the idea, but I just want much better proof than the claims and argumentation Monty Python Style Truthers have.


    And I have also read and have the 911 report too.

    Another false claim is that steel doesn't melt. Steel does lose it's tensile strength at roughly around 1000 degrees centigrade.

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    PPs?

    Sounds like a man's body part.

    And no I don't. I've read a lot of Truther literature, and there's a lot of dishonesty there.

    For example, the guy who claims that there were nano particles of explosives in the dust from WTC won't release the samples he took to science so they can run the experiments and see for themse4lves. That's how science works. All he did was release his results and expects you to take his word for it.

    But that is going off topic and is the subject for the conspiracy section.

    As for me, I'm not entirely closed to the idea, but I just want much better proof than the claims and argumentation Monty Python Style Truthers have.


    And I have also read and have the 911 report too.

    Another false claim is that steel doesn't melt. Steel does lose it's tensile strength at roughly around 1000 degrees centigrade.
     
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    Before you look for a perpetrator, a proper investigation first establishes probable cause to believe a crime has been committed, blood and a knife on the floor, a missing person from the house, etc. Only then is it proper to start guessing at who did it and why. The documentary takes no firm position on exactly who did it or why. It merely presents the physical evidence and records which indicate that the official theory of the crime, 19 Muslim hijackers hitting four targets and taking down three towers within hours, is a spectacular failure. Therefore a crime has been committed, and remains unsolved.

    The reason it is necessary to watch the film is that, rather than me try to summarize with no evidence, the film confronts you with the eyewitness testimonies, documents, film footage, etc. to support its point right when it makes it. That is because too many people are ready to look away the minute they hear something they don't like, and say "aw that's CT." If you are looking at the signed declassifed document with your eyes, or whatever, it is a little harder. Happy watching.
     
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    No, it's moronic crap made by morons, but thanks for your worthless opinion.
     
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    PPs are the new debunkers of today.

    yeh thats what the government did, whats the problem with that? You understand the government but not them is that what you are trying to say?

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    people always knock what they dont understand.
     
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    Oh, you really are a troll aren't you? I read Griffin's book with the same title, and it's pretty simple to understand that the guy is quite a poor researcher.

    You guys love it no doubt, but it is just an ignorant piece of crap as this sort of thing goes. I think Lone star is right, I'll put you on ignore as I'm already sick of your stupid posts. You sir, post as if you are an idiot.
     
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    One forensic point I will address, however, is that of course there were planes. It is almost as important to understand that part of the crime is a major disinformation operation going which produces ridiculous theories intended to be associated and confused with people asking intelligent questions. No serious 9/11 researcher will say there were no planes. We saw the engine parts and the wings and fuselage parts at Ground Zero.

    And my opinion the hijackers could not have been flying and navigating the planes. The flight paths were too complex and precise. I think it was old, tried and true tecnology you see in the skies every day, in drones: remote flying from hundreds of miles away. The drones in Afghanistan are piloted by guys sitting at Creech AFB Nevada. Please see the below entry from History Commons.

    [h=2]August 2001: Large Passenger Jet Flown and Landed by Remote Control[/h][​IMG]

    [​IMG]A Federal Express 727 lands in New Mexico in August 2001. [Source: Associated Press]US company Raytheon flies and lands a Federal Express 727 passenger jet six times on a military base in New Mexico, entirely by remote control and without a pilot on board. This is done to test equipment intended to make hijackings difficult, by allowing ground controllers to take over the flying of a hijacked plane. The Associated Press will later report, “[T]he Raytheon test used technology that provides the extremely precise navigational instructions that would be required for remote control from a secure location.” The Associated Press will observe, “Unmanned, ground controlled reconnaissance aircraft have been used by the military for missions over Iraq and Kosovo,” and will quote Thomas Cassidy, president of the California-based General Atomics Aeronautical Systems and manufacturer of the military aircraft, as saying, “It’s a reliable system.” [Associated Press, 10/2/2001; Der Spiegel (Hamburg), 10/28/2001]

    Raytheon Employees on 9/11 Planes - Several Raytheon employees with possible ties to this remote control technology and/or Raytheon’s Global Hawk program will be reported to have been on the hijacked 9/11 flights (see September 25, 2001). Earlier in the year, a specially designed Global Hawk plane flew from the US to Australia without pilots or passengers. [ITN, 4/24/2001]

    Others Say Remote Control Is Impossible - Contradicting the Associated Press report, a number of media reports after 9/11 will suggest such technology is impossible, or flatly deny its existence. For instance, The Observer will quote an expert as saying, “the technology is pretty much there,” but is still untried. [Observer, 9/16/2001] An aviation-security expert at Jane’s Defence Weekly will say this type of technology belongs “in the realms of science fiction.” [Financial Times, 9/18/2001; Economist, 9/20/2001] And in late September 2001, President Bush will give a speech in which he mentions that the government would give grants to research “new technology, probably far in the future, allowing air traffic controllers to land distressed planes by remote control.” [New York Times, 9/28/2001]

    Entity Tags: George W. Bush, Raytheon
    Timeline Tags: Complete 911 Timeline, 9/11 Timeline
     
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    I have no love of government because they only care for money and power.

    I have no love of Truthers because all they have is irrational claims and argumentation.

    I side with science and rationality.

    And also, how do you explain all the competing hypothesis over 911 among the Truthers?

    Some believe that Bush is an actual ET reptilian shape changing overlord that is working with his other alien reptilian shape changing overlords in order to overturn America and to sell us to the reptilian race for genetic materials that they need to survive?

    Oh, and not to mention the Christian angle in which these reptillians are noit ETS but the demons of the Bible?

    And they're all equally as convinced as you that they and only they have the truth on the matter.

    So tell me again, why should I believe you?

    Sorry, you are going to do a lot of work to convince me, and show me real and hard evidence that it was an inside job.

    Objective unbiased people look at the science. Not Monty Python style arguing.
     
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    once you said this: "Some believe that Bush is an actual ET reptilian shape changing overlord" I immediately realized there was no need to go further and stopped reading and summarily dismissed the whole post as raging bull(*)(*)(*)(*).
     
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    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    Thats your unsubstantiated opinion, feel free to take your best shot at proving it. Meantime I will prepare and make sure there are no leaks in my waders.
     
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    seems to me 767s already had RC built into the autopilot.
     
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    Here you go:

    [video=youtube;BiMwzL7Yx80]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiMwzL7Yx80[/video]

    [video=youtube;CjTZPBM0c6U]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjTZPBM0c6U[/video]

    [video=youtube;FlnW8cDFWlo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlnW8cDFWlo&list=PL0AEC2F9464673F0B[/video]

    And obama too:

    [video=youtube;VZn0KwDEc9Y]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZn0KwDEc9Y[/video]

    I'm just the messenger here, not a believer.
     
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    Oh and here is some more of your guys truth:

    [video=youtube;UHP_X8oLLAg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHP_X8oLLAg[/video]

    [video=youtube;DD9Dcfj3pgI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DD9Dcfj3pgI[/video]

    [video=youtube;UHP_X8oLLAg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHP_X8oLLAg[/video]

    [video=youtube;hlE4hWmQwn8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlE4hWmQwn8[/video]

    Now do you get my point?

    I was not the raving lunatic here. You are in error and came to the wrong conclusion about me. I was simply trying to tell you why I have a strong prejudice against you 911 was an inside job people.
     
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    That is true, planes are flown and landed on autopilot all the time. But another neat coincidence of 9/11 is that technology had been developed to actually seize the controls of airliners from the ground, in case of hijacking, and who developed it? None other than Dov Zakheim, the comptroller of the Pentagon at the time $2.3 trillion went missing, which was announced on the day before 9/11. Zakheim was CEO of the company SPC which developed the "anti-hijack" technology, which has obvious potential for misuse. The name of the software was the "Flight Termination System."

    Guess what else? Zakheim's SPC was also the company which did the investigation of the FIRST WTC attack in 1993, through its fully owned subsidiary Tridata. That means Zakheim had the blueprints, floor plans, security lay-out, etc. and knew everything about the buildings there was to know.

    Cover page from 1993 WTC bombing report
    http://www.usfa.fema.gov/downloads/pdf/publications/tr-076.pdf
    [​IMG]

    And guess what else? Zakheim is also a card-carrying member of the Project for a New American Century crew which speaks of a "new Pearl Harbot" back in 1998, which also includes Dick Cheney and half the Neocons in the Defense Department and White House.

    And guess what ELSE? Zakheim's daddy was a Irgun terrorist, who bombed British targets for the nascent state of Israel. Terrorism runs in this guy's bloodline.
     

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    You really do have a good sense of rumor,don't you?

    Scratch a truther,find a jew hating bigot
     

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