Biden: ‘There’s no place for this kind of violence in America’

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  1. spiritgide

    spiritgide Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Because I'm not your gopher. If you are going to argue it, do your own homework. Not my job to make you do yours.
     
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  2. Bush Lawyer

    Bush Lawyer Well-Known Member

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    So, I'm expected to believe a claim simply because you made it?
     
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    You really hate hearing the truth? I know QAnon world and FOX, Newscast, Breitbart, etc prefers to keep you in the dark. PLEASE keep note as a reminder how politically violent the right is. They even try to kill their own candidates.


    Democratic party HQs firebombed:
    https://www.justice.gov/usao-ndca/p...eme-attack-democratic-headquarters-sacramento

    https://www.azmirror.com/2020/07/29...izona-dem-party-hq-confessed-on-social-media/

    https://www.kvue.com/article/news/l...arty/269-dba25a6f-5977-4b0d-9f78-05ad168c7d36


    Protestors run over or killed by violent right-wingers:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_vehicle-ramming_incidents_during_George_Floyd_protests

    https://apnews.com/article/black-li...xas-sentence-3fff311aa2ebcca5c2dd31a4c9b02c29


    Killed/shot at because they were Democrat:

    https://www.kentucky.com/news/nation-world/national/article268513477.html

    https://www.reuters.com/world/us/re...otings-democrats-homes-new-mexico-2023-01-17/


    Republican pipe-bomber:

    https://abcnews.go.com/US/cesar-sayoc-sentenced-20-years-prison-mailing-pipe/story?id=64780616


    Floyd riot Boogaloo Boi shooting up MN police station:

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...-boi-minneapolis-police-building-george-floyd


    Plot kidnap governor convictions and acquittals:

    https://www.freep.com/story/news/lo...g-trial-verdict-guilty-acquitted/70889492007/


    Attack on Speak of House spouse looking for Speaker:

    https://apnews.com/article/paul-pelosi-attack-video-c35ecf3131109f69f0cb66b84e986ba2


    Republicans breaching voting machines:

    https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/video-shows-unauthorized-access-to-georgia-election-equipment

    Other violent Trump supporters:
    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/blame-abc-news-finds-17-cases-invoking-trump/story?id=58912889

    https://www.marca.com/en/lifestyle/us-news/2022/07/05/62c398a2268e3ed33e8b45f4.html

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-new...ed-released-el-paso-immigrant-center-n1040626

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/gop-nominee-run-north-carolina-200002143.html

    https://newrepublic.com/post/178602/pa-man-decapitates-father-video-uprising-biden-regime
     
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  4. Mungo Jerry

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    Because it is exceptionally likely that a large % of the people who own these gun will refuse to comply.
    Thus, they remain on the streets - and find their way to the black market.
    How does that reduce shootings?
     
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    So you agree - it is more correct to say you only sometimes allow 50% of the population to decide what happens with their own bodies.
     
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  6. Bush Lawyer

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    Implicit in your position is that US citizens are NOT law abiding.
     
  7. Bush Lawyer

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    Me, I'd allow it late term. As for the Law here in Australia, it as legal at late term with the endorsement of medical practitioners.
     
  8. spiritgide

    spiritgide Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well- you believe pure bullshit from media talking heads without question or checking on your own, so if you want to upgrade, yes- because I speak truth.
    Might be a foreign language to you, but deal with it.

    I don't care what you believe- but you should, and if you aren't wise enough to be skeptical in the face of habitual BS from those you support.... you probably don't.
     
  9. Bush Lawyer

    Bush Lawyer Well-Known Member

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    You want me to be skeptical of everyone or just some?

    Who do you think I support? Is the NYT a credible source?
     
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    A loser you say, in capitals no less.

    Well my loser made a living in the real world doing business and becoming a billionaire unlike your corpse who only made money from our tax dollars.

    and my guy is the loser?

    I really hate bringing this up but your heroes party and donors have turned their backs on him. Per your our trusted news source:

    https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/17/politics/nancy-pelosi-biden-conversation/index.html
     
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    You very obviously don’t know me ed. I do not usually pay attention to any news source. I will always use CNN or MSNBC to make my points.
    It’s simply hilarious to me that you took the energy to find the worst idiots to try and prove your point. I could do the same but it is so obvious to everyone on this site that there are idiots on both sides. Good effort though. If you and those like you made half that kind of effort to unite with your fellow citizens and fight against the politicians on both sides that are so clearly ruining our country we may actually get something accomplished.
     
  12. spiritgide

    spiritgide Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I AM a skeptic; I take very little for granted. And I know a lot about human nature- I know that some believe their own lies, and literally can lie thinking themselves doing the right thing by distorting truth. So those who manipulate truth do so for different reasons, but it's still altering truth. You don't have to make up or distort things to lie- all you have to do is selectively omit parts of the story, and the implication of it changes. every part of a story can be true- and still be communicating lies. This is one of the most irritating habits we see in the left's mindset; selectively ignoring what conflicts with what they want to believe, and arriving at conclusions on half-truths. AKA- lies by omission. Human weakness, but inexcusable in my view.

    The NYT is not a consistently credible source. The policy on the wall may claim the stand for truth, but they employ writers who bring bias to stories- and editors who allow that to go to press.
    Unfortunately, the days of truly objective reporting are probably history, most news sources allow the personal views of their management and staff to bias their reporting.

    That means it is up to the viewers/readers to develop an instinct that alerts them to misleading information- and the spectrum of it is unlimited. It's also up to us to hone our own values and character so that we can recognize when we are being deceived- including when we are the ones deceiving ourselves. It takes a strong person to accept being wrong, being able to adjust and accept truth regardless of it being comfortable or not. I am a very strong person in this regard.
     
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    The man is not a hero. A hero does not put the lives of others at risk and this isn’t the first time. A hero does not take advantage of a terrible situation to make money. You know who the hero was that day? It wasn't that fist pumping felon. It was the man who died using his body to shield his family from the bullets.

    The irony of this:

    “They suck up the lies they like- ignore the facts and the truth. They are being manipulated by the people they support- and haven't got a clue.”

    The IRONY — Who sucks up the lies and ignores the truth — seems you do. You are being manipulated by Trump and you don’t seem to have one clue. Oh dear.

    One more irony — does the ‘right’ never post lies, untruths, conspiracy theories on social media. Pot, Kettle, Black.
     
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    spiritgide Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You're pitching the left-line like a pro. Not like a responsible person, but like a pro- promoter, shilling for the team you play for. Too busy with that mindset to observe what's really going on, see the big picture.
     
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    So spell out what team I play for. Who am I shilling for and why? What mindset? I see the big picture.
     
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    it must suck to try to denigrate JD Vance when the alternative is someone who really sucks-the DEI poster child who has been a complete failure at the one job Joetato gave her-to deal with the border crisis. Oh and what endangers lives? millions of felons, drug dealers, and other illegals streaming into our country
     
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    If you did see it, you would have been a strong Biden critic for years.
    Not that you would be lonesome, never in my life seen so many people deceiving themselves about a politician- or a politician so devoid of both competence and character that ever gained such a powerful position. That's made me question the judgment of an entire wing of politics- far beyond differences of opinion, but to differences in their understanding and appreciation of their own nation.
     
  18. Mungo Jerry

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    You avoided my question.
    Twice.
    Reliance om voluntary compliance means these guns remain on the streets - and find their way to the black market.
    How does that reduce shootings?
     
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    Fact remains:
    Your statement was false..
    You you only sometimes allow 50% of the population to decide what happens with their own bodies.
    Just like here.
     
  20. Eddie Haskell Jr

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    And that's why you will continue to be a low information voter.
     
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    It worked in Australia where the citizens are largely law abiding. It will work in the USA if its citizens are largely law abiding?
     
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    Just like where? Are there no States in the USA where abortion is illegal at any stage of the term without the endorsement of medical practitioners.
     
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    :applause::applause::applause:
     
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    Bunkum! Even in the stares where abortion laws remain on the books those laws are not prosecuted
     
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    And thus, you cannot tell us how it will reduce shootings.
    Thank you.
     

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