Biden administration endorses transgender youth sex-change operations, 'top surgery,' hormone therap

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  1. Starcastle

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    You can do what you want to your own body. Your personal info for this forum says you are female. You supplied that information.

    Keep away from our kids.
     
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    Recruit is the ley word there.
     
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    Isn’t it hilarious? They DEMAND we call them what they want to be called at risk of losing our jobs and having our children kicked out of school.

    But if you tell them you don’t want to be referred to as cisgender that’s too bad they’re gonna call you that anyway.
     
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    Since few were asking, specifically, to be lobotomized, that is not a very good analogy, to begin with. But based on the success of this therapy-- causing the subjects to perform tasks with less disability, than before their surgeries-- your comparison is not at all fitting.

    This is the first I've heard of this rare condition and, while amputation seems an extreme step, I have at least the modicum of humility to accept that I am not qualified to assess this, on my own, nor do I have a sufficient base of knowledge to come to any judgement on this-- even less so, one that contradicts the study's results.

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    Surgery is found helpful in all subjects who underwent amputation and those subjects score significantly lower on a disability scale than BIID subjects without body modification.

    Conclusions
    The amputation variant and paralyzation variant of BIID are to be considered as one of the same condition. Amputation of the healthy body part appears to result in remission of BIID and an impressive improvement of quality of life. Knowledge of and respect for the desires of BIID individuals are the first steps in providing care and may decrease the huge burden they experience.

    Introduction
    Body Integrity Identity Disorder (BIID) is a rare condition in which persons typically report an intense desire either to be paralyzed or to have one or more of their healthy limbs to be amputated [1]–[3]. BIID is not a paraphilia [4] nor does the desire to amputate the limb reflect psychosis amputation [5]. Rather it is believed that BIID is an identity disorder [1]–[3], [6]. The main motivation for the preferred body modification is believed to be a mismatch between actual and perceived body schema [1], [7]. The symptoms of BIID parallel those in somatoparaphrenia, a syndrome occurring secondary to right parietal lobe damage by a cerebral tumor or stroke. This similarity, coupled with the early onset,
    suggests that BIID could be a CONGENITAL disorder. [7]–[10].
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    There are more things, in heaven and Earth, my dear Kal'Stangio...
     
  5. Alwayssa

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    Never said it was trans people who came up with the word. I simply said is how transgendered people view the world around them, or how Russians view the world around them, or how mainland Chinese view the world around them. Different groups of people have different perspectives on what they see, interact, observe, etc.


    40% of the words in the English language is made up, like Xerox for instance, or doh, or the ones I gave. Even William Shakespeare is credited with creating over 1700 words. That is how the evolution of language is determined. If you go back 100, your common vanuclar language would be as foreign to the people of that time as it is to you today. Furthermore, to say it is a made up word and therefore you won't use it is simply a copout of an argument and shows no sign of complex thought or aguments on your end.

    Get it now?


    No, your choice is made. I will no longer try to educate you. Debate you yes.
     
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    No it's not. It is simply part of evolution of the human species.
     
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    Wrong answer. Cross dressing and homosexuality’s acceptance has been a consistent part of the evidence of a civilizations collapse throughout history. This isn’t new. The Greeks did the same thing. As their civilization started to collapse gender confusion became an issue. Men were dressing in women’s clothes and having sex with children of the same sex. It happened to the Romans and multiple others.

    This isn’t some new evolutionary concept.

    In fact I can’t think of one civilization who embraced gender confusion as a norm that didnt collapse relatively soon after. There may be one but I would theorize that if there is, they were a smaller nation of little to no import on the world stage.
     
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    Yeah see this is my point. You don’t care so why bother having a rational debate? When it’s “I don’t care! You’re less than human to me” nobody can learn anything new. It’s just a selfish attitude that says “I don’t want to be better, I have to be right”. All you’re admitting is “I want to be bigoted”.
     
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    And there you go again proving my point. Okay fine be trans I don’t care. If you don’t want to be cis then be transgender.
     
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    Says the person who supports people being fired from work and their children losing their ability to go to school if they refuse to use the verbiage that the transgenders demand.
     
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    The irony of course escaping you.
     
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    Nobody wants to get y’all fired from work because you wanna consider yourself a female. We are not advocating for that. We are advocating that you can believe whatever you want to believe about yourself but you do NOT have the right to force others to follow suit.
     
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    Of course you can be fired for creating a hostile work environment. I mean listen to yourself. Are you really saying a person shouldn’t lose their job because they are a racist and actively harass their black coworkers?
     
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    My preferred pronouns are "Healthy" "Fit" "Handsome" and "Witty".

    SCIENCE: The Deranged White House Is Pimping Puberty Blockers for ‘Trans Kids.’ It’s Relying on a Problematic Study.

    The Biden administration is promoting "the use of puberty blockers for transgender children by citing a study from an LGBT group funded in part by a manufacturer of the controversial drugs used in gender reassignment."

    Isn't that cozy? Always follow the money with the Corrupt Biden Administration.

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    After the kids.​
    So the part that is disclosed reveals potential conflicts, raising even more questions about the parts that are concealed.
    Big Pharma, in the pockets of some, looking for yet another big payday.
     
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    I do not wish to get involved in personal conflicts. I will at least suggest not allowing random people on the internet to get your goat. (I bring extra goats with me!)

    I can understand and even respect most opinions, but I draw the line at altering the physical appearance of children with drugs and surgery. I also strongly oppose conversion therapy. I see many people with good intentions pushing their personal beliefs on children. Both have strong feelings and believe they are helping. Both are wrong a percentage of the time and the damage they cause lasts a lifetime.

    On the subject of being insulted, Buddha said "If one person is offering a gift, yet the recipient declines to accept that gift, tho whom does that gift belong?" If you don't accept it, no one owes you an apology.
     
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    Doesn't matter where it occurs it is sexual multilation by the very definition.
     
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    I agree on it being harmful, but I think they really believe they are helping. That makes them even more dangerous IMO.
     
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    First of all, all of the conversations and statements I have seen from Palin are related to teenagers, not elementary kids.

    Secondly, source this claim that she endorses sex education and condoms. Im not finding it.
     
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    Let me ask you an honest question. Let’s assume I’m a pasty white guy but I honestly feel deep inside that I’m black. So I change my name from Keith to Chukwuemeka I style my hair in cornrows and I use makeup to darken my complexion. I come into work and I wear African garb and I start talking and interacting in a manner consistent with how I think black people act. I want everyone at work now to refer to me as Chukwuemeka and if they don’t, I want them disciplined.

    Do you see how that might be incredibly offensive to the black people at work?

    If so, why do you not see how it’s incredibly offensive for a transgender to do the same?
     
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    I am neither cis, nor trans.

    Notice that you had to resort to talking about racists and black people? Calling you by your biological sex is not creating a hostile work environment. Its just stating fact.
     
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    False. YOU have made uncalled for demands on me. I never said anything about YOU. I used the proper definitions of words. YOU demand some unexplained apology. Then weeks later after being told repeatedly I had no obligation to issue some vague apology to you you started posting your personal information.

    YOU don't get to censor other people's proper use of the language. If you don't like it don't disclose your personal information.
     
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    I gave you my answer
    Are you going to keep dodging?
     
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    It’s completely disgusting isn’t it. This mentality towards kids is appalling
     

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