The immigrant owner of this store TOTALLY agrees with you: https://www.mprnews.org/story/2020/...-vandalism-and-looting-want-justice-for-floyd
In America, the only people who can be insulted, demeaned, discriminated against, and ridiculed are white people and every other race, including some whites, are free to pile on.
If I had a nickel for every time I would be a lot closer to retirement. But it's okay for them to make hateful attacks against white people and make bigoted comments.
Oh I would love to tell all of you hateful progressives exactly how I feel about you but I don't seem to be able to say the same level of things that you guys apparently have a pass to do
I think you're missing the point. People who are victims don't need to have led a blameless life, or even an admirable life, to be victims, for their death to be tragic, and for the circumstances of them becoming victims to be historically significant. Sure, people like MLK make better martyrs, but Floyds death can be pointed to as a point where we realized something was very wrong with how cops treat black suspects in some cases.
The only reason Floyd's death was historical is because of the riots, looting, arson and murders that took place afterwards and which blm proudly participated. Did you notice how none of that occurred when an illegal alien murdered Laken Riley? Floyd's drug use and criminal activity put him in a position to die when he did. None of us would died if we were in the same position.
I have two people on ignore and you've been going back and forth with at least one of them. The first person on ignore is there because s/he constantly derails threads by making up his own facts and then tries to get you to defend his lies. There's more, but that's the biggie. The second person will stalk you across this board and call you a racist if s/he found out you like vanilla ice cream instead of chocolate. To me, people like that are useless to me and they seem to come here just to attack those they disagree with. In fact, if you look at the other side, you can see how much pleasure they get from calling someone stupid names, spelling his name wrong and making fun of his skin tone. Do that with Obama and the second person I mentioned above will be on your ass faster than blm can loot a store.
His drug use and criminal history is no excuse for excessive force and disregard for his life. I don't condone the riots. The Laken Riley comparison is absurd. Illegal immigrants murder less than citizens, but doubtless it will happen sometimes. Yet given their lower likelihood of committing murder, their net effect is to make us slightly safer.
I don't believe the excessive force thing because if I recall correctly, a person who trains cops said Chauvin's actions were what he was taught to do. Another thing I recall is that Floyd was saying he couldn't breathe while in the back of the police car. While I could be wrong on both counts, I don't think I am. There's one thing I do believe and that is left's obsession with pandering to blacks. By honoring Floyd, Biden highlights his victim status while giving the impression he cares about them. With Biden's racist history, that's a tough sell, and right now Biden is losing some of the black voters he had hoped to keep.
Your last sentence goes completely against logic. Any murder committed by an illegal immigrant is a murder that would not have been committed if they were not illegally in this nation. There is no way that you can add murders above and beyond what we already have within our own nation and remotely claim that it somehow makes us safer
This is statistics... let me see if I can make it understandable. Figures used are made to be mathematically simple to illustrate the concept: Imagine you live in a tiny town of 100 people. Let's say 2 of those people are going to murder 2 others, so we have a murder rate of 2 per 100 people. That is, if it were random, each person in town has a 2% chance of being murdered at baseline. Now let's suppose there's a massive influx of immigrants into this town. 100 immigrants, but they have a lower murder rate of 1 per 100 people. With the immigrants, the rate is now 3 murders per 200 people so the murder rate went down to 1.5%. How? Well, the number of potential victims increased faster than the number of killers, basically. They absorb murders disproportionately to how many they cause.
But you would still have 50% more dead people than if the illegals didn't arrive. Use the logic the left uses with guns: if a gun doesn't exist it can't shoot anyone.
Well yes having more people in general means there will ultimately be more bodies. I don't see the problem. Presumably we care more about our likelihood of being murdered than whether funeral homes are over or underworked. It also means more young people who can work to support our aging population and insufficient birthrate.
That's great but you're still failing to account for the simple fact that any murders above and beyond those two.... Are still additional murders that would not have happened.
They would have happened, but somewhere else. And I am accounting for that. It is offset by the fact that these people are more likely to be victims than perpetrators, compared to the native population. They absorb more kills by citizens than cause kills on citizens.
Simple logic says that is simply not true. Any more murders that you add to the already existing murders is a net gain of more murders and it doesn't matter if it's even one single murder.... Even one is greater than zero Your argument is akin to saying that it is okay to put only a third of a gallon of gasoline on a burning building and that that is better than putting the whole gallon on that burning building. Reality says it is better not to put any gas on the fire. Even putting one drop on that fire is worse than putting zero. And your very first sentence is a false claim. Yes maybe they would have happened in Mexico if the murderers would have stayed in Mexico.
228 blacks shot dead by the police in 2018, 459 whites. 229 blacks in 2023, 425 whites. People shot to death by U.S. police, by race 2024 | Statista
AND the reality that blacks account for most murders and most robberies even though they are only 13% of the population, is why blacks are more likely than whites to be killed by police.
You can put the emphasis on reducing crimes committed by those committing the most crimes and less, not no, effort on those committing the least.
