Biden honors George Floyd

The bottom line is you will never be able to put out a fire by adding even a single drop of gasoline.

If they weren't here to begin with then they would not bring the increased numbers with them.

Any degree of increase, is increase. That's simple numbers

 

And this is incredibly more uninformed, from you.
I never had a reason to play the victim card, that you just admitted to playing.

 

None, he/she/they, don't make thread after thread about how bad black people are. That's your notoriety on these forums.

Also, that poster didn't like the post about putting black people back in chains.
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http://www.politicalforum.com/index...has-hit-my-home-state.595921/#post-1073180021

 

All that is true and now the white cop that knelt on his neck for over 9 minutes and is serving time in jail for killing him, made him a black martyr.

 

Weren't you complaining in the other thread about how you're not allowed to call out the racist but that you yourself get in trouble?

Evidently you can launch your personal attacks against me.

 

That's incredibly superficial. Next, you'd want to consider population proportions. About 12% black, 71% white. About 6 times as many whites as blacks, but less than twice as many whites shot. So blacks are at least 3 times more likely to be shot. Now, this is still superficial - the whys and hows matter, but your numbers don't actually make your case.

 

The murder rate determines how safe we are from murder, NOT the total number of murders. If two cities experience one murder a year, but one city has a population of 10,000 and the other has a population of 100,000, which is safer? Same number of murders, but any individual's likelihood of getting murdered is 10-fold higher in the smaller city in this hypothetical. Is that really out of your mental reach?

The overall rate will go down if people who are coming here have lower rates than the general population.

Your analogy doesn't make any sense at all. Admitting people with a lower murder rate is nothing like adding an accelerant to a fire. Your argument is akin to saying people should stop having babies because it will increase the total number of deaths. It holds absolutely no water and you're getting likes because, basically, you guys just want an excuse to halt changes in our culture. But call it what it is. It isn't really about safety, unless you're falling victim to propaganda or are being willfully obtuse.

 

All irrelevant to MY point you completely missed. A comparison of the # before and after Floyds death. YOU claim

"but Floyds death can be pointed to as a point where we realized something was very wrong with how cops treat black suspects in some cases."

And there is nothing wrong with how cops treat blacks. In Minnesota where Floyd was killed, blacks are 10% of the population, and yet make up 75% of the known murderers. Of course blacks are more frequently involved with the police and more likely to be killed. Police interact with criminals.

 

You're correct I had no idea that was your point. I never claimed the problem was solved or even improved other the increased awareness of it. One would not necessarily expect an immediate improvement with awareness alone. And one could not evaluate improvement without further contextual data (overall crime rates, types of encounters with police, types of suspect responses to arrest, e.g.). I think the bottom line is the data you cited couldn't show anything at all by itself.

The reason we need studies is it's damned hard to casually pull it all together by yourself, particularly with the lack of knowledge about how statistics works I've seen in most posters.

 

The false propaganda became more effective. Your half of the population was convinced that the police are killing people because they are black. Its basic CRT BS.

 

It's fair to say some people have an overly simplistic understanding of the problem and that plays into political dynamics as well as cases of false victimhood. But I'm more interested in the actual social problem and what good policy would look like. Police do treat them differently, but it's not because they have a bloodlust or, in most cases, extreme prejudice. Is it overestimating them as threats or can it mostly be attributed to different suspect behavior, but with some component of giving more innocent-seeming people an unearned benefit of the doubt. Frankly, I haven't seen the study I need to see on it.

 

No they dont treat blacks differently. They treat suspected criminals differently. And more importantly with blacks convinced the police are out to kill them because they are black, blacks treat the police differently.

 

What is it about black people that you don't like?