Biden opposes Israeli strikes on Iran nuclear sites

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  1. Joe knows

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    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cx24d6ky5r7o.amp

    the last time this happened Biden said he doesn’t support direct attack at Iran. He claimed the US would not assist in a retaliatory attack if it’s at Iran soil.

    Biden’s Deputy U.S. Ambassador to the U.N. Robert Wood called on the council to unequivocally condemn Iran's April (the first missile attack) attack.

    "Let me be clear: if Iran or its proxies take actions against the United States or further action against Israel, Iran will be held responsible," is what he said.
    Still, Biden told Netanyahu the U.S. would not participate in any Israeli counter-offensive against Iran over the attack.

    Now we have attack number 2 of great proportion because Biden refuses to have a spine. Now is the time to make them hurt for their decision. Let them see if they can fend off a similar attack. Playing with tampons isn’t helping Biden’s posturing of strength. I’ve never seen an admin condemn an action while refusing to act on it. It’s a total ***** way to handle this.
     
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    The gutless, brainless moron can’t even handle Houthi rabble. zero chance he grows any balls against Iran.
     
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    You know all of those nuclear sites that Obama let Iran police on their own and not allow international nuclear inspectors in??? Well, we tricked Iran into revealing where all of their actual nuclear sites were. Now, those sites are probably on Israel's target list.

    Biden says he doesn't support that, but is it a plan to remain as neutral as possible to give Israel and Iran a way out if it all becomes too much and they decide to put aside their violence and meet at the negotiating table of peace?
     
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    Here is an update on his position

    https://www.foxnews.com/video/6362775795112

    still supports sanctions over an attack. If you get into a street fight with a guy with a knife you don’t tackle him to take his shoelaces away. Let them defend themselves for Christ sake!!!
     
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    Proves to me that red lines meant nothing to Obama and they mean nothing to Biden. Empty weak threats and Iran knows it.
     
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    "US President Joe Biden has said he does not support any potential Israeli retaliatory strike on Iranian nuclear sites"

    guess Israel is ready for their own 20+ year war... Republicans think the USA can afford another 20+ year war
     
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    Trump killed the Iran deal, that is why this is all happening, sad!....

    Trump patted himself on the back for the bigger better deal he was gonna get with Iran before he got it, and like always, after that, no deal

    that is the way Trump is, always pats himself on the back before he does something, cause he knows he will never do it, so only time he gets to pat himself on the back
     
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    couldn't agree more....your Biden administration's foreign policy seems to be some absurd toxic mix of risk aversion, dithering and navel gazing...
     
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    What else do you expect from an American candidate
     
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    I think you’re looking at a very small picture. I think democrats including Biden is willing to see Israel fall to Iran in fear of retaliation. Iran has succeeded in instilling The same fear in democrats we should be instinctively instilling in them. You’re scared of that big stick when our stick is bigger. You realize how weak that makes democrats look? Pathetic!!!

    in fact I think we should send them double the missiles they sent to Israel then tell them that next time we will double up on whatever they send again. Kick us in the shin and we will kick you in the groin is what these people need.
     
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    If anyone ever needed proof that mr Biden was trying to manufacture business for his military industrial complex...... Why do you suppose that mr Biden is protecting the Iranians these days?
     
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    I don't think either party is willing to see that

    do you want another 20+ year war?
     
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    The question is do they want to be devastated not do we want another war. We don’t need to promise war to avoid this from happening. That’s a simpletons view. We just have to double up any reaction they send to Israel or us. Make them know, not think, but know that we are going to pull your fingernails off if you so much as look our way. You kick us in the shin and we will smash your nuts with a sledge hammer. We need them to believe in our reaction the same way you live in fear of their reaction. Being strong shows cowards and Biden is showing his cowardice. It’s sickening
     
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    There will be war regardless of what America does as long as Israel exists as it does today. Love or bombs, they will absorb each and never alter their efforts to destroy the State of Israel.
     
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    Biden is as maddeningly restrained in the face of Iranian aggression as he is with Russian aggression. It is tempting to believe the criticisms that he exudes weakness and invites further aggression against the US and its allies. It is annoying that we have such excellent military capabilities that can be used to save so many lives, but they aren't being deployed to do so. We don't even lend, sell or otherwise provide enough to Ukraine to allow them to stop Russia's advances in their territory, even this long after the invasion. There is so much more that could be provided but is not, and there is much more we could do to assist Israel and rein in Iran as well.
     
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    Biden voted no to the Ben Laden raid too.
     
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    I feel like with his mental capacity...anyone could just ask him about information that is classified and top secret and the idiot would answer it.

    We told you democrats it was a BAD IDEA to vote in an idiot suffering from dementia back in 2020...but you voted with your feelings and not your brains so here we are. The idiot commander and chief just told the world what Israel was planning to do. FFS what a joke.
     
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    Israel has been at war with the world basically because of anti semitism since its founding. I don't think Republicans want the U.S. in a war with Iran. But they understand that cease fire is the worst possible approach to the problem for Israel.
     
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    *cough* Ukraine *cough*

    You have no place to talk about "20+ year wars"
     
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    Can Israel destroy Iran's nuclear facilities without US help?

    'without US support, a solo Israeli air strike on Iran’s nuclear facilities would be highly risky and at best only delay rather than destroy its programme, according to analysts.'

    Air to Air refueling ability limits are one problem.

    'Iranian air defence. The country’s main nuclear sites are heavily guarded, and the Israeli bombers would need to be protected by fighter jets.'

    'The vast fuel-enrichment plant at Natanz is deep underground, while the second-biggest plant at Fordow is dug into a mountain. Destroying them would require weapons that can penetrate several dozen meters of rock and reinforced concrete before exploding. Israel does have bunker-buster bombs, such as the 2,000lb GBU-31 bombs the Israeli air force dropped last week on four buildings in Beirut to kill Hizbollah chief Hassan Nasrallah. Yet Israeli reports suggested 80 bombs were used in that hit — and it is unlikely that a similarly sized barrage would destroy the more heavily protected Iranian nuclear facilities.'

    https://archive.ph/dH66L#selection-2475.116-2475.172

    'there is only one conventional weapon that could plausibly do the job: the GBU-57A/B Massive Ordnance Penetrator (MOP). This giant, precision-guided bomb is about 6 metres long, weighs 30,000lb, and can plough through 60 metres of earth before detonating.'

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    'F-15, F-16 and F-35 fighter bombers could not carry it”.'

    They would need a B-2

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    They don't have one.

    They could probably screw up the sites by bombing the ventilation systems and entry points, but I'm not sure that they can destroy them without our assistance.
     
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    European backed IDF can't even beat Hezbollah so clearly the last thing they should be thinking about is hitting Persia.

    iMean were talking about a very real ancient civilization here against a no mark European settler society
     
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    they need to take out iran's ability to create nuclear warheads because the iranians are whack enough to use one if they get one
     
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    Last I checked only the USA has been whack enough to use them if they got them. Just saying.
     
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