Biden vows to ban assault weapons 'come hell or high water'

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  1. Melb_muser

    Melb_muser Well-Known Member Donor

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    Honestly I hadn't intended to have a big discussion in the thread. I just chucked in a couple of points for interest and my inbox fills with responses and paragraphs of discussion. It's a big issue for YOU guys.

    FYI I live in work in the US roughly 6 months of the year of the moment. I can hear them shooting up stuff in the woods of West Virginia around me.
     
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    Your second point. Yes maybe home made 3D printing will change everything... It's an oblique point. We will see.

    I can't help thinking of Star trek, or was it the Orville. 3D printing of whatever you want in hand - within a utopian society. Funny how they don't print up a bunch of guns in anticipation of somebody wanting to shoot them. It is fiction, though.
     
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    The words you're citing are a musing not part of an actual holding. Dicta. They have no precedence setting effect. Bruen's holding is not dicta, it takes actual effect.
    I literally do not care what Scalia mused in dicta to get Roberts to sign on because Roberts likes to play solomon.
     
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    A military blowing up and shooting it’s own citizens is the definition of civil war unless there is already a long established one party authoritarian government in place. In that case it’s an insurrection or a revolution depending on who is victorious. :)

    Any US military bombing US citizens would be far from a lawless gang. It could only occur with a very powerful government entity commanding the operations. It could only happen under direct orders with serious consequences for refusing orders. The enemy is not the military. The enemy is the government ordering the military to do the bombing etc. The issue would be elimination or incapacitation of the government ordering the bombing. And it would be a coordinated effort, not individual.

    Yes they are hardcore. Combat experience matters. I personally know (they are my friends) at least six men under age 50 that would not stand for military aggression on US citizens. One did one combat tour in Desert Storm. One did one combat tour Iraq #2. One did 3 tours as SF Afghanistan and 2 more aviation Afghanistan, the three others did 2 combat tours each Iraq/Afghanistan and have been contracting both places since. The US is full of combat veterans, many of whom take the oath they swore seriously. I would never dish the US military—only the politicians that get it into unnecessary troubles and then makes their job harder once they are in those troubles.

    No kidding. And corrupt as hell.

    As Forrest Gump would say about chocolates, with cops you never know what your going to get. Could be a good dude, could be an authoritarian nut job. The thing that really worries me is civil asset seizure. I often travel with a lot of cash and many departments just take anything they can get away with. And to prevent them getting away with it you have to go to court.


    I’ll bet your Feds aren’t buying gullible kids motorcycles and enticing them into committing federal crimes like kidnapping politicians though. That’s the type of thing our FBI spends a lot of resources on now.
     
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    In that case I was talking about something different. Not under government control. I take your point it if it was directed by the government, you would simply go straight for the head of the Hydra.
    Yes we've seen that happen time and time again.
    That's worse than what I was anticipating. I don't know how to comment yet. I clearly have some catch up reading to do :)
     
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    The motorcycle thing wasn’t literal it was in reference to motorcycle gangs in Australia. I’m talking about cases like the Gretchen Whitmer kidnapping plot and the Hutaree milita case where the majority of those involved are employed or paid by the FBI to entrap others.

    I’m not sure on the current score on the Whitmer case but I think there have been 4 convictions but there were 4 agents involved and 12 FBI informants involved. If my numbers are off someone correct me. :)
     
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    A rifle is like a virus??? LOLOL... now I've heard EVERYTHING!! LOLOLOL Well, what do you expect from folks that think crickets are like t-bones and think men can have babies?
     
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    Very few military personnel would kill civilians that they have sworn to protect. Remember, service members pledge loyalty to the Constitution, not any individual, and are bound only to obey LAWFUL orders.
     
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    I'm so glad that I live in a state that has "Constitutional Carry" meaning any lawful gun owner can carry open or concealed, unencumbered by any permits, registration, waiting periods, or other blue state silliness. We've even declared ourselves a "sanctuary state" for the Second Amendment, following the blue staters model for illegal immigrant sanctuary. It works better because the blue states defend violating federal law while we defend the Constitution. I'm so glad I live here!

    TEXAS!!! WHERE FREEDOM LIVES!!!
     
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    Yeah it's called hunting.
     
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    So you're not a fan of this kind of sci-fi you never saw phasers or disruptor guns in Star Trek? The ship security torpedoes.

    Yeah and Orville had weapons to.

    Seems they were almost ubiquitous
     
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    3-D printing is nothing new. I saw it being used to produce parts for the forward landing gear for C-5 aircraft back in the 1990's. Years ago, a friend of mine in California bought a small 3-D printer he used to make gun parts. He bought it used for about $2500.
     
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    What’s funny about the cricket thing is these clowns that all the sudden think crickets will save the planet never switched from beef to crickets of their own volition. So obviously crickets aren’t more appealing than steak. Media and politicians have to tell them what to do.

    These people are just robots who do what they are programmed to do without engaging in any critical thought.
     
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    I would love to hear Biden explain what an assault weapon is.
     
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    Me too. Did you see where he tried to explain what America is, in one word?

     
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    Popcorn, please.
     
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