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Big oil’s evolving efforts to avoid accountability for climate change

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  1. Jack Hays

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    Global Smearing
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    Competitive Enterprise Institute
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    Mar 27, 2008 — By any standard, atmospheric physicist Dr. S. Fred Singer is a remarkably accomplished scientist. But his outspoken questioning of
     
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    It's clear that the Oreskes portrayal is dishonest.

    Shellenberger, Michael. Apocalypse Never: Why Environmental Alarmism Hurts Us All (pp. 250-253). HarperCollins. Kindle Edition.
     
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    Boom! Chukka-lukka-lukka.
     
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    I did some looking, and I decided that Merchants of Doubt, the documentary, will be our next Family Movie, when we’re all together. I did watch an incredible talk by Naomi Oreskes at BYU. What an incredibly inciteful, articulate, and caring person!

     
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    If your taste runs to liars.
     
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    A 30-second response, and the video is over an hour long. So what is your abbreviated opinion of the BYU address?:juggle:
     
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    I’m well familiar with Oreskes through exposure to her decades of mendacity. Some of you seem to think that reading is limited to this forum.
     
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    So you assume that you know EVERYTHING she has to say in the video, and that your assumption qualifies you to call her a “Liar”?
     
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    Yes. She has lied often in the past. She no longer merits any benefit of the doubt. If you don’t like the word liar, I’d settle for duplicitous snake.
     
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    I have read her book which is a hit piece on Dr. Singer who is personally attacked 40( times in 287 pages.
     
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    Expect a negative reaction from the denialists they have been trying to discredit her and her work for years
     
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    Your opinion again no substance
     
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    Already done. She’s a liar.
     
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    Links? Won’t hold my breath that it will be to anywhere other than obscure denialist websites or, of course RWM
     
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    Already provided yesterday.
     
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    Yeah! WUWT and its links were broken. WUWT has an agenda
     
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    There were other posts as well, and even the time-lapsed links for references at WUWT could be used to follow up. There have been several posts documenting Oreskes’s mendacity. WUWT is a beacon of integrity.
     
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    :roflol::roflol::roflol:
    CEI? You are quoting CEI??
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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Competitive_Enterprise_Institute
    Why not just quote Exxon Mobil itself?
     
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    Still catching up with overnight posts - you know when I was asleep? / sarcasm
     
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    I’m uninterested in excuses.
     
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    Putting aside the fact that good research can be done even in an unethical company - and everyone KNOWS EXXON MOBIL KNEW it KNEW that its product was increasing CO2 levels and warming the planet, the IPCC has ALWAYS been open to input from industry leaders. Proof that it is not biased
     
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    405 attacks in 287 pages is no substance?
     
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    There is no direct evidence confirming the enhanced CO2 effect hypothesis.
     
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    Lols! Thanks! I always had a deep suspicion that some denialists are unaware that anywhere outside of the USA actually exists. I mean the memes on this are legendary
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    Do you REALLY want me to post the clip of Jimmy Kimmel asking passing people to “name a country”? Now because you are responding so rapidly I think for your benefit I am taking a break to post on other threads.
     
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