Birthright Citizenship NOT Granted under 14th Amendment

Look at who supported Obama

 

So you don't know how they became resident in NY? Do you know what the laws were in 1815 when they arrived? One other note, they were white, they were resident and their child was born a citizen. Your lackluster understanding of the laws for residency let alone entering the US back then is, bub

And yet you can't show me to be wrong.

Really? where have I quoted Coulter? What, you mean I haven't and all you have is this lame strawman to attempt to save face. And here I expected more from you since you claimed to have many more cases.

Is that why I quoted the SC opinion and you had virtually no rebuttal, just lame attempts at hyperbole?

It is not the law, it is nothing more than policy. Children born to illegals is unknown to common law, just because we haven't had a court case saying one way or the other doesn't change the simple facts.

I didn't code it at all, I simply showed the statement from Justice Gray in the WKA decision. Don't try to play your race baiting game with me.

I must have more than just bluster since you don't have the ability to refute anything I have shown, instead all you have is the attack the commenter game. When it is presented in front of the court we shall see.

 

A 9 yo is exempt from being conscripted. Are you going to deny the 1873 AG

It isn't, unless the person is being charged with an infamous crime.

 

So are illegals. Yet both are subject to U.S. Jurisdiction.

Nope. With jaywalking.

 

Why would he need to be a citizen? He merely needed to have entered the US legally and reside here according to the law.

You aren't reading your wiki sentence correctly, he worked for CBS's flagship station WCBS-TV for six weeks before he was drafted.

http://www.britannica.com/biography/Howard-Stringer

Really? So I show that registering with the SSS does not mean you can be conscripted and you tell me I didn't answer the question?

An illegal immigrant can not be conscripted because the govt does not have authority over the person.

 

No it does not. Your first paragraph discusses US common law. After your ........ that starts with II. The fundamental principle of the common law with regard to English nationality was birth within the allegiance discusses the law in England, not the US. So you still refuse to acknowledge what you claim to follow, Indians were unknown to common law and were a recognized exception.

 

Yes I am discounting him if that is what he said on this issue. Jurisdiction is avoided by agreements between nations. Individuals cannot become "jurisdictionless" on their own. Everyone on the planet is subject to a jurisdiction and that jurisdiction depends solely on geography unless there is an agreement between countries that makes an exception to the geographical rule.

 

No, its simply subject to US laws. Being subject to US jurisdiction means the govt holds authority over you, which is why illegals can not be conscripted.

Illegals are not exempt by our choice. International law denies us the ability to conscript them. Do you really not understand what the AG stated?

 

Your mad and continued usage of the rofl smiley just reminds me how I'm likely dealing with a teenager. Sorry, my take. Your words go further in promoting that image. At this point, you bore me.

Oh really?

Do you think an illegal immigrant can break our laws, willy nilly? Cause that's what you're saying. Which is preposterous.

To add: [h=3]The Pentagon Allows Undocumented Immigrants to Join the U.S. Military[/h]"It's not the first time illegal immigrants have been allowed to fight for Uncle Sam either, Stock noted. Military conscription had always applied to every able-bodied young man in the country, including undocumented immigrants. Many of them fought in the Vietnam War, she said."

 

Yes it does. Repeating the same debunked nonsense doesn't change the fact you are repeating debunked nonsense.

 

Illegals are not exempt, they simply can not be conscripted due to international law. The US has no authority over them.

A civil law infraction. i.e. a civil crime.

 

And since conscription is entirely irrelevant, you are posting a bunch of debunked nonsense. The court has held anyone on US soil is subject to U.S. Jurisdiction. With 2 exceptions.

Of course they are. We could pass a law tomorrow saying they can be conscripted.

No it doesn't.

 

The U.S. Has authority over everyone inside US borders with 2 exceptions.

which means they are under our jurisdiction, as they can be arrested for it.

 

I wonder then why the SC Justice didn't discount him....hhhmmmmmm. Individuals become jursidictionless? SMFH Everyone on the planet is subject to the jurisdiction of their govt based on allegiance, and if they immigrate to another country they are temporarily subject to the country they are in based on temporary allegiance. That allegiance must be recognized by both govts. Do you know what amity means yet?

 

Really? Just what percentage of these "Trumpies" (I suppose a term you just made up intended to be derisive to his supporters) do you think are "ectremists" enthralled by his shtick? Would you care to quantify that, or are you just going to accuse half of the country of being Nazi & white supremacists?

Let me tell you something. Your ridiculous attempt to somehow tie white people in America who are republicans to Nazi's, who were leftist socialists like today's democrats, or the white supremacists like the KKK which was a creation of the democrat party is just plain stupid.

Go ahead and use the Nazi slander, I'll only point out that they are ideologically in line with the democrats, and actually had many sympathizers in the democrats before the war.

Go ahead and malign Americans as white supremacists, and I'll remind you that it was the democrat party that started the KKK, was the party of slavery, lynching of blacks and white republicans, Jim Crow laws, segregation and CCR's, Japanese internment, and they are the same party that deny black children school vouchers for a chance at a decent education. I could keep going on about all the sins democrats have committed against blacks and other people of color but it would fill a book. I'll just end by saying that no organization has done more to harm black people in America than the democrat party.

 

I bore you?

Really, really.

Its not at all what I am saying. Do you not understand the words of the AG

They may beallowed due to having a temporary protected status and work authorization, they are not being conscripted nor are they in any role that allows them "Secret" or "Top Secret" information, nor can they go into combat. Its under the MAVNI program, which is highly irregular and will pose a law suit in the future provided they actually get any illegals to apply. https://studyinthestates.dhs.gov/what-is-mavni-information-for-designated-school-officials Again, none have joined as of yet, and it is nothing more than a memo that claims that they can. http://www.politifact.com/florida/s...ordered-military-enlist-illegal-aliens-allen/

Those that may have fought in the Vietnam War by assuming others names.

http://thinkprogress.org/immigratio...-protests-his-deportation-with-hunger-strike/

Again, they can not be conscripted.

 

Repeating the same debunked nonsense that you have refuted something you haven't done is nonsense.

 

Which is why I actually debunked your nonsense.

 

If you need to reminisce, please do.

I have posted the names, quotes, and links to avowed Neo-Naizis and White Supremacists who support and endorse Trump.

If you feel that historical endorsements of presidential candidates is germane, you can do the same.

 

The court has held anyone on US soil is subject to its law. The Schooner Exchange 1812.

NO we couldn't, International Law and other countries authority over their own citizens.

YES, it does.

 

If that were true the US could conscript illegal immigrants. International law denies that ability.

which means they are within our jurisdiction and can be held liable for an infamous crime. The Schooner Exchange 1812.

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Which is why you have yet to do so. Claiming you have done something when you have been shown numerous times over that you haven't only shows just how inane you are.

 

I have noted the current support for Trump from acknowledged Neo-Nazis and White Supremacists.

If you need to pretend that is somehow and indictment of decent Americans or flee down Memory Lane to avoid the cogency of now, I guess that's what you'll do.

Of course, it does not alter the truth of Neo-Nazis and White Supremacists now supporting and endorsing Trump as has been thoroughly documented, regardless of whether you are able to honestly confront it.

 

Dedicated; 1886


Emblazoned on our shores - symbol of America.

"Give me your tired, your poor,






Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed, to me:
I lift my lamp beside the golden door.”

 

I'm not sure what allegiance has to do with it. If I renounce my citizenship, i can run around committing crimes and not be subject to any country's jurisdiction?

What about after you drop the kid off in Mexico who wasn't born there? Mexico is supposed to follow your interpretation and grant him or her citizenship? Or is the kid forevermore jurisdictionless, destined to roam the planet owing allegiance to no one and also accountable to no one?

 

If that were true we could conscript legal tourists