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  1. Buri

    Buri Well-Known Member

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    I can clearly imagine that everyone is guilty of something.

    these people who are mad about something that didn’t happen to them or to anyone they know are as bad as people who are still mad at Japanese people about Pearl Harbor. Which was much more recent.
     
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    gabmux Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's kind of like how I would feel if my own kids did something that was terrible (IMO) to someone else or someones else's children.
    Whether I had anything to do with it or not....I would still feel some responsibility for their actions.
    Likewise if a person of my own race commits some atrocity...I feel a sense of responsibility toward the victim.
    Why do you say that is bad?

    I did not say I was angry about whites abusing other races....what I said was....
    Then I asked you....
    You did not answer...perhaps that has no significance for you.
     
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    well, I can appreciate how you feel about that. I personally have no feelings of remorse about what my ancestors did. They didn’t ask me, I feel no responsibility over that which I had no control. I was equating it to people who harbor ill feelings towards Japanese people.
    I have no concern nor any interest in how I’d cope if I was black or brown or yellow or any other color. I don’t feel it’s an exercise in anything but fishing for negativity. But if others want to do that, I wouldn’t tell them not to.
     
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    gabmux Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I think I may have found the appropriate word...

    "Compassion motivates people to go out of their way to help the physical, mental, or emotional pains of another and themselves. Compassion is often regarded as having sensitivity, which is an emotional aspect to suffering. Though, when based on cerebral notions such as fairness, justice, and interdependence, it may be considered rational in nature and its application understood as an activity also based on sound judgment. There is also an aspect of equal dimension, such that an individual's compassion is often given a property of "depth", "vigor", or "passion". The etymology of "compassion" is Latin, meaning "co-suffering." Compassion involves "feeling for another" and is a precursor to empathy, the "feeling as another" capacity for better person-centered acts of active compassion; in common parlance active compassion is the desire to alleviate another's suffering."

    I'm not sure how that equates to "fishing for negativity"...
    can you perhaps share more information concerning your belief?
     
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    I'm not the one dishing out the insults bud.
    That pack of BS strawmen you just tried to pin on me is insulting.

    Why do you think it was OK for humans to slaughter whales to near extinction? Why do you hate whales?

    See how that BS works? I can play that game too.
     
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    FatBack Well-Known Member

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    You "see" all kinds of things. Are you ashamed you were born white ?

    I was born white, so what? The sky is blue, I'm not into self loathing. Projection all you got?
     
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    I appreciate your thoughts on the matter.

    I’m perfect fine with empathy. I won’t feel or attach guilt over that which I had no control. Seems like fishing to me.
     
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    gabmux Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I appreciate the response...I wish to learn something.
    You said...."I’m perfect fine with empathy."
    But it seems...according to definition...compassion brings about empathy.
    How does compassion imply guilt...compassion is a natural human trait.
    A lack of compassion would be unnatural...it would have to be a learned characteristic...
    and a desired and practiced one to maintain it.
     
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    let’s look at it this way, everyone’s ancestors did something to someone somewhere. I can choose to realize that’s part of life on this planet and not engage in those behaviors or I can search around for something to feel guilty about.
    I’m pretty sure that’s a waste of everyone’s time. The poster who is crying about transgressions he never faced is simply advocating for a hand out, it comes across as pathetic and not worthy of any empathy. Victim mentality and all...
     
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    If I am understanding correctly.....you are saying that verbally expressing compassion
    either results from feelings of guilt...or merely someone looking for a handout. Correct?
     
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    gabmux Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Ranting is your favorite pastime...not mine.
    Not at all...you came up with that idea so you would have something to rant about.
    That's stooping a bit low even for you....but typical I guess.
     
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    Okay...show me one of your posts in this thread that was not an attempt to insult someone...
    and I'll show two of yours that are.
     
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    This is turning into a total mauling. Gs gabmux.
     
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    I’m saying you can understand what person X (pick any time in history whatsoever) who got hosed by person Y (pick another time) went through, yet feel no guilt about any of it. I’m stating a particular poster is hilariously begging for a handout and attempting to use unnecessary guilt to get someone to agree to it.
    I’ll save my feeling of guilt for the times when I’ve actually wronged another person.
     
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    <<MODERATOR WARNING ISSUED>>

    A moderator's warning was issued on this thread on 4/18/2021 for incessant and persistent insults and flamebaiting. Please keep comments on the subject and do not make things personal. Any more instances of race baiting, insults, or flamebaiting will result in an immediate thread ban and warnings with points could be issued as if all required preliminary procedures have already been given.
     
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    Your analysis may very well apply to some...I don't doubt that a bit.
    When I hear of the crimes of Hitler I feel appalled...not hatred....or guilt.
    I feel compassion for all who were affected by his actions....including our own soldiers.
    At one point, Whites in America tried to eliminate Indians...slaughtered their food supply...
    gave them diseased blankets...confined them to the most barren lands available.
    Likewise mistreatment of Blacks continued long after slavery was abolished....
    and still goes on.
    I can't see anything wrong with calling attention to how
    whites have wrongly treated other races...because it is not only in the past,
    it is still going on today.
    At least at this point in time...whites are in charge...they can't change the past..
    but they can choose to do what is right in the present
     
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    you do realize that you could spend the rest of your life going through history and lamenting how the romans treated the goths or the mongols v the Huns to the same ends as this? I’m not telling anyone what to call attention to but in this case it bears no value for me. Blacks carrying on about slavery after never having been a slave and having the biggest collection of freebies and financial incentives offered (affirmative action hiring) to them is just a constant hand of victim cards.
    we can always ask the Chinese what they think since they were slaves at one time too.
     
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    gabmux Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Thanks for taking the time to explain your reasoning. What you've shared concerning your beliefs
    is about what I had expected. I just wanted to be sure I was not overlooking something
    from your point of view. I may never understand how (affirmative action hiring)
    somehow makes up for past and present mistreatment of Blacks...
    but I gave it a try. Thanks again
     
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    I can understand why each of us has formed our opinions. Cheers.
     
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    white countries are more heavenly.

    god left black countries
     
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    gabmux Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Left them where exactly?
     
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    Wasn't the purpose of your post to incite precisely the above? Just open a window and say excuse me.
     
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    With all the nice beaches and palm trees, I.e., Jamaica man. . Now mind you Hoboken New Jersey is heavenly. I think this very thread was designed to bait people into divisive comments.
     
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    Subjects like this that invoke strong feelings are precisely the ones that need to be discussed....
    before things get violent...not after
     
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    Jamaica good!
     

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