Bystander says he saw gunman climb onto roof with rifle; police ignored his shouted warnings

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  1. Scott

    Scott Well-Known Member

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    Here's a picture of Trump's bloody ear.
    https://dailystormer.in/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/trump-ear-wound-1.webp

    Here's a picture of his ear before the attempt.
    https://www.france24.com/es/ee-uu-y-canadá/20240228-el-tribunal-supremo-de-estados-unidos-acepta-pronunciarse-sobre-la-inmunidad-de-trump

    When comparing the pictures it does look like a piece is missing from the ear in the first picture.

    The two weak points in this theory* are the obvious wound on his ear and how they were able to get Crooks to climb onto the roof and shoot. I still don't totally rule the theory out; the official story has a similar weak point–the fact that they let him get onto the roof with a gun.


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    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...houted-warnings.620043/page-3#post-1074916679
     
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    I was checking out the stuff in the comment sections of the articles at unz.com and I came across this.

    EXCLUSIVE: First Photos of President Trump’s Ear without Bandages after He Survives Attempted Assassination
    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...photos-president-trumps-ear-without-bandages/

    His ear looks like it doesn't have a wound. Of all the theories I've seen so far, I'd bet the theory put forth in post #74 is the one that reflects reality.

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    He's rich, plastic surgery makes this easy to do. I would expect him also to have some sort of concealing make-up applied.
    Ridiculous. The bullet clearly strikes in the upper left edge. The upper left edge after surgery shows a slight thinning, flattening and a faint mark for the scab from the wound.

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    This thread is a perfect example of why conspiracy theorists are not highly regarded - it's the equivalent of a cat chasing after a laser pointer target!
     
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    I wouldn't rule out the above but it's quite a stretch to consider it to be a debunking. It's merely a plausible scenario. Now we have two plausible scenarios. Simply putting forth an alternative scenario is not debunking the other scenario.

    I think I made it pretty clear that I wasn't one hundred percent sure a bout the scenario I put forward. I don't have a foregone conclusion. I just want to figure out what happened. An objective person would find the official story quite suspicious.
     
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    Fascinating. It's "quite a stretch" to see the obvious but not for it to be wrapped up in the most ludicrous suggestion that Mr Orange faked being shot!
    We have one that fits the visible evidence and one that is ludicrous. One day, perhaps you will be able to properly work this out for yourself.
    My suspicions are related to the covering up of the incompetency that most normal people conclude.

    I suggest that setting up this whole thing as a faked event with most of the attendees carrying cell phone cameras, is so absurdly risky, only a lunatic would entertain doing it.
     
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    I just watched the first half of this video.

    Brighteon Broadcast News, July 25, 2024 – PATSY PROGRAM - So far ZERO evidence that Crooks fired a single shot
    https://www.brighteon.com/93e0f5d1-140f-4513-af91-0700b121e7f6


    Mike Adams posits a plausible scenario that would explain why Crooks was walking around suspiciously without fear before the shooting. The people in charge might have told him he was somehow part of the security operation. He can be seen on the roof aiming the gun* though. I can't think of any story they could have told him in order to get him to do that.

    I think most people know about this BlackRock commercial in which he played the role of a student. It's from 2023. He seemed to be connected with the deep state somehow.

    BlackRock Ad w/ Shooter Thomas Crooks (Full) | #blux



    The deep state might have been mentally preparing him for this for a long time. Just because we can't think of a story they could have told him doesn't mean there isn't one. Those people are pretty crafty.


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    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...houted-warnings.620043/page-3#post-1074915931
     
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    Incompetence.
    Ludicrous
    They didn't "need" to get him to do it. He was another in a long line of disturbed individuals with easy access to automatic weaponry!
    Because he played a background part in a commercial? Hogwash.
    More likely there isn't one!
    Says who? These people screwed the whole thing up, they were the opposite of "crafty" - incompetent.
     
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    sadly many cops today are brave against unarmed traffic stops where the driver bruises their ego, but when they really need to be brave, they do not rise to the occasion it seems
     
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    I'm not sure that is the reason here. It just seems to be a lack of leadership/direction.
     
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    I thought I read a cop followed him up and when saw ar-15 went back down, is that correct?
     
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    found this, so maybe the retreat was only temporary, and the SS got him before he could go back up and confront him

    https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politi...-firing-at-trump-during-rally-sources-tell-ap

    "A local law enforcement officer climbed to the roof and found Crooks, who pointed the rifle at the officer. The officer then retreated down the ladder, and the gunman quickly fired toward Trump, the officials said. That’s when U.S. Secret Service gunmen shot him, the officials said."
     
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    I was reading some more comments in the comment section of the video that's in post #85. It was pointed out that in this allegedly faked picture which shows the bullet,...

    (post #74)
    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...houted-warnings.620043/page-3#post-1074916679


    ...Trump's hand is halfway up to his ear. That bullet would have been long-gone by the time he got his hand that high. Either that picture of the bullet is faked, or it's a picture of a bullet from the second shot which I think is unlikely.
     
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    Sigh....try not to take notice of the type of people that frequent these "eeny-meeny-miny-moe" videos!
    Why?
     
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    It's consistent with the complete security failure.
     
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    Until I see complete transparency, and it may be to late, my theory is the "Deep State", via either the SS or FBI, ordered, or prearranged by default that the shooters position on that roof remained clear and unhindered. It just seems to me it seems highly likely. The rest of my ideas on how and who communicated with the shooter are non conclusive so far.
     
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    Pay attention, why can't that be the second bullet? He fired them in quick succession.

    How can you not get how ridiculous it is to now involve a photographer. With absolutely nothing to gain - where is your critical thinking?
     
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    It's obvious when you watch it in slow-motion and watch where his had is as you hear the shots. Set the speed to .5. Start watching and listening at about the 4:20 time mark. At the first shot his hand is all the way down. At the second shot his hand is at his ear. At the third shot his hand is almost to the podium. Look at post #72 where the alleged fake bullet can be seen in relation to his hand. His hand is higher than it was when the third shot can be heard and lower than it was when the second shot can be heard.
     
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    So you think when you hear the shot that means it coincides with the video?! The muzzle velocity of the AR15 is over 2000mph! Sound travels at 760mph.

    STOP IGNORING THINGS!

    How can you not get how ridiculous it is to now involve a photographer? With absolutely nothing to gain why bother - where is your critical thinking?
     
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    the police have qualified immunity, so at worst he gets a paid vacation probably
     
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    I just thought it was negligible.


    In this video Mike Adams shows that the small sonic boom arrives before the sound of the shot. He calls it a snap.
    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...houted-warnings.620043/page-2#post-1074904351

    At about the 4:21 time mark we can see the footage where the shooting starts.
    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...houted-warnings.620043/page-4#post-1074918978

    I can hear the snap and the shot three times. The snap would be when the bullet whizzes by – not the shot.

    Here's the picture showing where Trump's hand is when the bullet whizzes by. It's about as high as his shoulder.
    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...houted-warnings.620043/page-3#post-1074916679

    It does kind of look like his hand was about as high as his shoulder when the second and third sonic snap is heard.

    I guess this argument can't be used to prove the picture of the bullet was photoshopped. Its not proving it was photoshopped doesn't prove it wasn't photoshopped though.
     
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    Precisely. IF it had been photoshopped, it would have been a totally separate thing anyway, an attempt at notoriety/financial gain by the photographer.
     
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    This is still up in the air. It may have ben photoshopped.
     

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