Bystander says he saw gunman climb onto roof with rifle; police ignored his shouted warnings

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  1. Betamax101

    Betamax101 Well-Known Member

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    So what!?
     
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    (from post #99)
    If this scam turns out to be true,...
    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...houted-warnings.620043/page-3#post-1074916679
    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...houted-warnings.620043/page-4#post-1074918978

    ...it would be a logical part of the plan.

    I think this is the most likely scenario. The incompetence theory is very unlikely and if the powers that be had really wanted to kill Trump, they would have given him a heart attack somehow. He's old enough for that to be believable.
     
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    Betamax101 Well-Known Member

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    By what criteria?
    Hogwash!
    Then we can safely dismiss it.
    MEH!
    The "If I ran the zoo" logical fallacy and utter garbage circular reasoning!
     
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  4. Scott

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    Read the article to which I linked in post #74.
     
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    Missing the point! YOU seem to think that your opinion on the matter is the only salient criteria. The sheer number of times you make the statement "if it turns out" with never ANY point where it could possibly be resolved. It speaks volumes that you label it a "scam" before it "turns out to be true"!
     
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    I should have said alleged scam.
     
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    Which one? You must have stuck up about half a dozen "theories" - none of which have been proven, speculation at its worst and contradictions between them.

    Are we done with the water tower? The most absurd place to fire from that you could get! Multiple shooters? Fake wounds? Irrelevant photoshopping? The patsy who didn't know he was going to be shot?

    The only explanation that fits the facts is human incompetence.
     
  8. Scott

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    Here's a comment from the comment section I've been checking out.

    https://www.unz.com/kbarrett/the-false-flag-trump-shooting/#comments
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    That this was staged one way or another is beyond doubt and it was meant for us to waste our time trying to figure out the Jew wizardry behind it. Who cares? What we must do is pierce the Jewish veil of Deception: what the hell do the Jews want? Why? What is their game plan? How are they gonna pull it off?

    It’s become obvious that the Jews want to give Trump an “extreme makeover”. They want to convince the American people that Trump has changed with this almost mystical experience — the bullet to the right ear. The Christians Zionists are now discussing if he is “anointed” somehow, citing Leviticus and the blood on the right ear as proof that Trump has been consecrated as High Priest: “Why Many Leaders Are Suggesting Trump Is Ordained by God After the Assassination Attempt”, says a recent headline. And Trump has thrown the Christians into a frenzy with his avowed belief in the Hand of God:
     
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    Incompetence is not theoretical. Google "Uvalde" or "RCMP" for examples.
     
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    Wizardry Wizards to DJT: "Relax, we are going to zip the bullet 1/4 inch from your skull and clip your ear." Just remember to bleed a lot and fist pump and don't lose your Ruby Red Slippers.

    "Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on, or by imbeciles who really mean it." Mark Twain :)
     
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    OMG, there it is. The pinnacle of conspiracy batshit - The Joos did it.
     
  12. Scott

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    The deep state might be planning something big. A lot of Americans probably believe that God saved Trump from being killed and they'll probably think God is on his side if the US goes to war over that something. That's a good reason to pull off a fake assassination attempt. This is just speculation of course.
     
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    Yikes. If they do you can definitely refer everyone here and say "I told you so" (best ignore a few pages of "other stuff"!).
    One of the daftest pieces of circular reasoning I've seen in a long while.
    No, that's as daft a suggestion as anyone could make. The idea that Mr. Orange could act the part is worth a facepalm and a loud raspberry!
    No kidding:roll:
     
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    Here's another video I found in that comment section. It makes a few new points.

    Secret Service MOVE Photographers Into Place RIGHT BEFORE Shots Fired: Clearing The Problem Angles
    https://rumble.com/v57177p-secret-s...nto-place-right-before-shots-fired-clear.html


    Be sure to check out the comment section.


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    Here's a different link to the video in post #85. It shows the comment section.


    TRUMP FAKE SHOOTING EXPOSED?! More Evidence Shows This Was Possibly Choreographed Stage Magic
    https://rumble.com/v56zn6d-trump-fa...idence-shows-this-was-likely-choreograph.html
     
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    The craziest of ironies! Not new either. The secret service are being efficient! These people have encroached on the wrong side of the safety barrier!
    THE worst place possible to find anything other than garbage.
    A pathetic video that suggests it's staged because his hand isn't immediately covered in blood and an idiotic observation about security "covering up his ear"?

    Could you possibly stop posting EVERY piece of batshit you stumble upon? Maybe pause, look at it properly, attempt to disprove it, find fault with it.
     
  16. Scott

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    I saw a quote a while back. I don't remember the exact words or who said it but it went something like this:

    The side that doesn't want people to hear what the other side says is usually the side that's lying.
     
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    I have a better one. See batshit, post batshit, never analyze it, never admit an error, avoid rebuttal and only frequent places that support confirmation bias - consider every alternative except the one most likely and at all costs refuse to entertain anything even remotely connected with the mainstream.

    I find it absurd that you think I want you to stop posting conspiracy junk because "I'm lying".

    Address this bit!
    Maybe pause, look at it properly, attempt to disprove it, find fault with it.
     
  18. Scott

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    I've modified my opinion several times.
    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...houted-warnings.620043/page-3#post-1074905527
    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...houted-warnings.620043/page-4#post-1074920784

    Objective truth-seekers don't get checkmated. The modify their opinions when they see they're mistaken. If I see anything else on which I think I'm mistaken, I'll modify my opinion.

    Of all the scenarios I've seen put forward so far, this one seems the most likely.
    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...houted-warnings.620043/page-3#post-1074916679
     
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    Here's some circumstantial evidence that supports the theory that Trump's ear wound was faked.

    The Trump 'Assassination' Fiasco: Logic and Critical Thinking Are Necessary Here
    https://garydbarnett.substack.com/p/the-trump-assassination-fiasco-logic
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    Almost immediately after this show, Trump's fundraising efforts were in full gear, huge sums of money flowing everywhere. His company, Trump Media and Technology Group, went up close to 50%, a gain of approximately $315 million for Trump. The media, including the leftist media, cancelled popular shows in order to give him 24 hour blanket coverage, causing him to soar in the polls; with claims that he was now unbeatable in the race for the fully controlled supreme leader position. Sympathy abounded, as he was given god-like status from every outlet. I would call this a very successful coup.
     
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    MEH!
    What has that go to do with you?
    The Secret Service were incompetent. Fits everything perfectly.
     
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    The main flaw in the fake-ear-wound theory is the fact that there was a guy on the roof attempting to shoot in the direction of Trump. I think most people have heard about the theory that certain people can be programmed with drugs and sleep deprivation to commit crimes.

    Watch the first scene in this video.

    People Get Mind Controlled to Commit Crimes - Hypno/Mind Control (In from the Cold)



    I don't rule out the possibility that Crooks was under such control. A rational person not under such control would know that he would be caught later and his life would be ruined. The idea that the mind of someone in a heavy depression could be affected by certain drugs to get him to just obey instructions sounds plausible to me. Someone in that state probably couldn't aim very well so his gun was probably made non-functional and other operatives did the shooting which hit the hydraulic hose on the crane, etc. That all sounds plausible to me.

    https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=cia+mind+control
     
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    Zero evidence supporting it.

    And mind-control drugs now?
    Uhuh, got any evidence? Or is this in the coulda-woulda-shoulda pile!?
     
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    This article explains it.

    BREAKING – Newly unearthed video from Trump shooting appears to show suppressed rifle fire from FIRST floor window underneath Crooks rooftop, fired toward Trump podium
    https://www.newstarget.com/2024-07-28-breaking-new-video-from-trump-shooting-first-floor-window.html


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    I've only watched five minutes of this but I'm posting it anyway.

    BREAKING: Evidence suggests second gunman involved in Trump assassination attempt



    I found it here.

    Evidence points to SECOND shooter on second floor in Trump assassination attempt
    https://www.newstarget.com/2024-07-...second-floor-trump-assassination-attempt.html
     
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    Modern software, AI etc. make video editing and fakery really simple. So, significant time after an event, some guy claims to have captured new footage, not seen before.

    What are the chances he is pointing straight at a gunman and only just "discovered" it?

    Viral videos can make people rich, my immediate thought is deception, with that in mind.
     

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