Caitlyn Jenner Is Still Studying Womanhood: “I’ve Missed So Much”

http://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2016/01/caitlyn-jenner-advocate-cover

See this article is important, because it makes it easier to explain what I have told Trans and their supporters for awhile.

When these adults or kids go transgender, its not something they have no control over, and at times is the parents fault. If the boy who wanted to be a women, was not surrounded, by labels, and mainstream media sterotype of women, he never would have been able to be transgender. In other words, transgender is not something your born with, but also its degrading to women and is just pathetic.

Here we see Bruce clearly admitting he cant do half of what makes a women and women, including important time periods that effect their ideology and the way they behave. but we are supposed to accent it as normal and his head was in the wrong body....

I mean Bruce is the definition of my original point, he was around the Kardashians and been in the media spotlight, eventually he broke down what a women is, degraded them, and his mind gave him a set of stereotypes he was interested in, and that is the only way for a transgender boy or girl in reverse can exist. Even now, as the article states, he is looking at a book looking for bullet points so he can act like a fake women using what the media makes women out to be.

If theres one good thing Bruce could be doing by going on with this nonsense, it could be that he may be the one who might actually be able to kill the trans issue for good indirectly.

 

Caitlyn is hardly a spoke person for the Trans community. And no she couldn't kill the trans issue. Let me let you in on a little secret it is never going away you cant pray or legislate it away.

 

It is going away unless you havent been paying attention to the increasing public rejection. But then you probably watch CNN all day or something.

 

No it isn't if it is then why do you and another poster here always seem to be concerned with what is between someone else legs, or who they sleep with.

Sadly you want it to go away. However, I will remind you that these people still pay taxes and are due the same right and protection as any other American.

 

No it is going away. Trans issues were increasing and getting more coverage and positive opinion until a couple years ago, and its been rapidly declining. LGB will soon drop them like the peds.

Also guess what other groups pay taxes. But I bet youll deflect and say they dont count if I mention them.

 

deflect what point out that all tax paying citizens deserve the same treatment and right as others? Hmmmmmm that's in the Constitution. You or anyone that disagree cannot legislate by vote. That is why there is the Supreme Court.

Plus like I said it is not going away because people like you wont let it. Funny how you say it is going away and the LGBT community will drop the T when none of them are talking about it. LOL

 

I'm actually inclined to think it is a result of perceived gender roles and may go away. Until then, live and let live. Bruce wants to be Caitlyn? Wtf do I care?

 

I think Bruce Jenner has accomplished his goal in life. If being Caitlyn makes him happy, it's fine with me.

 

We should post a new trans story everyday here....just to (*)(*)(*)(*) him off.

 

The OP states that the trans issue is dying yet there is a story daily posted here so they can bash away???

 

Don't worry, Bruce. Women will also never have your life experience of being born a boy-turned-man, turned Olympian, turned into a woman.

 

Why would anyone need to care about what this poor confused person has to say. Why is he or she important ? Better yet if he/she important. Why should anyome need to care about transgenderism ?

 

From what I understand "SHE" decided to keep his penis.......

 

I believe the whole "trans" thing is starting to die out. Reason being is it hypocritical to liberal logic. That is to say something cant exist and not exist at the same time.

Let me explain

Liberals believe that a man can be ome a woman by dressing a certain way, acting a certain way, changing his name, having silicone put in his chest, and having his penis lopped off. None of these in part or in whole make a man a woman. However we see the above in all m2f trans. They grow their hair long or wear wigs, wear ladies clothes, try to change the natural sound of thier voice.... In essence try to be more girlish adhereing to female gender stereotypes. Jenner is case and point. In essence a man in ladies clothes calling himself a woman.

Heres how it cant exist.

According to liberal logic, gender roles do not exist. There are no boy toys or girl toys, boy/girl clothes, hair styles, and apparently genitals. If this is true why do all m2f only adapt to traditional girls gender roles.they all try to be more girly but according to liberals there is no such thing as girly. Basically all being trans really is on sex assuming the gender roles of the opposite sex, which liberals say do not exist.

So my question is, if bruce wants to assume female gender roles, why cant he be a man that assumes female gender roles,and not a "woman"( which he physically can never be) assuming womens gender roles.

 

You are assuming the Left is in fact logical. An extremely dubious assumption.

But to be fair there are certain feminists known as TERFs (trans excluding radical feminists) who understand your very reasonable observation and bitter are the battles on the internet between TERFs and Trans* (don't ask me what the * means, I don't know).

 

Well, considering the spotlight that Jenner has brought on it, yes s/he is a spokesperson for it. And while s/he isn't going to kill the trans community, Jenner sure is doing a great job of trivializing it. Or turning it into a complete farce. Or both.

Here's the thing: This issue is something where I kind of depart from most conservatives on. I actually do believe there's something to it; I've run into enough kids at school where there is definitely some gender confusion going on. Enough for me to believe there's something to this male-born-in-a-female-body et cetera et cetera kind of thing going on. And I don't have an issue with it, really.

BUT. Let's not forget a few things: Fact one - the MOST important fact - is that for all intents and purposes, Jenner is a Kardashian, one of the klub. And they do nothing - NOTHING - unless there's money, publicity, or a combination of the two involved. There is NO altruistic motive for anything those prostitutes do, never has been, never will be. Bruce has pretty much abandoned his kids from previous marriages to be with the Kardashians, and then let Kris Jenner prostitute all their kids out for all the fame they could squeeze out of them. And dollars to donuts says Jenner made the change not because s/he wanted to - but because s/he had other reason$.

Fact Two: Jenner came out knowing s/he'd be feted by everyone. Jenner got awards for bravery all right - awards s/he got in return for interviews. And let's face, it,pretty much the whole world knows this about the trans movement: You go into it knowing you're likely going to lose a lot of your family, maybe your job, most of your friends, your social life will never be the same, you won't be on TV, get awards, get your own show, get supported by a community (the entertainment field) that is welcoming of LGBT issues, and you won't have access to the best medicine and medical treatments around. Much less clothing - after all, the hardest part of being a woman is picking out what to wear, if you believe Jenner. But Bruce? Why, becoming a woman was as simple as slipping on a dress and off you go.

Fact Three: Bravery? It's there for all to see, going into a situation where you're already rich INTO one where you'll get even MORE rich and MORE fame, into a community that rewards you for coming out and one where you can hide from anything you wish to is NOT bravery. And no one is fooled by all of this except the people who want to be fooled. Jenner - and the more I write about it, the more I want to call this screwball Brucilla again because it kinda pisses me off - is a fraud, and almost everyone knows it. Brucilla can hide in her fancy mansions shielded from any negative consequences just like any 1%-er. S/he golfs with his/her friends who support Jenner 100%. Jenner basically has the money to hide away from anything and everything that the normal trans community can't. And is the Time runner-up for person of the year for 2015 for doing so. But let's not fool ourselves, would Brucilla have done all this had s/he been some working-class slob maybe making 30k a year instead of a mega-star, would he have done it then without the publicity that comes from the backing of a major infotainment conglomerate backing him up financially and socially? No. Freaking. Way. Or what if Brucilla had instead been Butrus al-Jenner Mohammed in Syria, where coming out as trans means likely being you'll be thrown off a rooftop the next day? Yeah, now that could be called bravery. And if you think Brucilla has bravery like that, then I have some beachfront property on the Moon I'd like to sell you.

Whether you like it or not, Brucilla IS THE Trans Spokesperson at the moment, because the press has decreed it. Brucilla is everywhere, s/he's the Flavor of the Month. But at the same time, no one can, with a straight face, discuss how authentic Jenner is. There's nothing authentic about any of this at all, it's PR smoke and mirrors. And at the end of the day all Jenner has done is make a ton more money and scored a bunch of free PR using the trans community. And I think everyone deep down, no matter their gender or self-identification, realizes it.

 

So Bruce is a WINO--Woman in name only

 

Bruce gets bashed because most people think he did it strictly for publicity.

I don't think other TGs get bashed the same way. That would be like bashing a schizophrenic or Alzheimer's patient. They can't really help that they're mentally ill or damaged.

 

Interesting food for thought. Thanks.

 

That is very stupid thought to she did it for publicity lol. She is worth more than a 100 million.

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Shakes head you have no understanding of the issue and liberal logic is there is no genger roles???? Where are you cominv up with this bull(*)(*)(*)(*)?

 

Look at the OP'er. Count his new threads. Someones obsessed. Just saying....

 

I only have a few moments Jenner didnt do it for publicity or money. She has a net worth of around 100 million. So no she didnt do it for money. Two she went through one massive surgery with the face healing time of around 3 to 4 months. So to go all through that for money is a very foolish statement.

 

I will get back with you on the other points because there is some truth to it

 

Brucilla is part of a Kult that does absolutely nothing unless there's publicity involved. The whole family calls the paps first, THEN leaves the house, or gym, or wherever. It's as if they live their whole lives on camera so they can soak up the publicity. They're all so thirsty, an entire ocean can never fill those idiots up. The plotlines on their "reality" show are discussed and plotted out months in advance. And the whole family is money-hungry in ways so off the charts that we will never understand. Just the last two of Kim's weddings alone should tell you something, especially since as rich as they are, they negotiated that E! pay for the whole shmear. Heck, I believe Kim made a tidy profit off the marriage when all was said and done. And Brucilla learned about what it means to be a woman - from the Kardashians, a group of self-obsessed vapid women that spend hours just taking then editing their own selfies for public consumption. I'd even go so far as to say Brucilla has a large amount of his brain devoted just TO publicity and how to achieve more.

Okay, no prob.

 

I think he did do it for publicity. Once the Kardashian's kicked him to the curb, he knew the publicity train was leaving the station. So he had to come up with something to remain relevent.