California passes law allowing women to sue man who sends her nude pictures

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  1. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So in mind of Progressive Leftist, "man bad, make him pay woman a lot of money"
     
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    Only if this applies equally to women, should they harass men with unsolicited vagina pics.
     
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    It's worth noting that incels living in mom's basement won't need to worry, anyhow. No sueable assets.
     
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    If you're on a hookup site the conversation is sexual it's the only reason to be there. If you're using it as a replacement for Facebook you are the problem.
     
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    This doesn't concern them in a slightest they don't engage in this. The Men Who get attention from women on online dating typically don't fit that category. They're the ones that most women want to see their penis and then get mad when they realize it was just a hookup.

    If I don't want to see granny porn I don't go looking for granny porn. If I don't want to see penises it's really pretty easy to avoid.
     
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    Well it's really more about protecting women from criticism.

    See some women have found online dating and through this they have found a way to have access to people who are out of their league. And when you regularly have sex with people who are out of your league they don't tend to stick around with you because they can find someone better. Through online dating the value their marketplace value and I know speaking about it in these terms seems kind of ghoulish for lack of a better word but dating websites have created a marketplace.

    I remember Tomi lahren expressing how men are garbage because she can't figure out how to find one that's good enough for her to date and so that's everyone else's problem but hers. This ethos has permeated much of culture today.

    So what this is wanting told me accountable for not wanting to date them. So they just pretend they get dick pics from them and squawk about it.

    I don't think this is a real phenomenon I just think women complain about it to pretend like it's real kind of like complaining about racism or white supremacy.

    And my reason for this is I'm a man but I date other men. Or at least I did before I chose one to stay with. And even if I rejected a guy I never got a picture of a penis that I didn't ask for. But you know something kind of interesting if I rejected women as in I had no interest in them because I'm a gay man is this happened in public they would shake their breasts at me.

    So I think this is a behavior that is exhibited by women that they want to pretend men are doing.
     
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    lol.. um, maybe there's some exceptions on places like F***bookhookup.com, where the junk is literally on the profile and some consent to seeing nude pictures can be inferred, but there's definitely mixed intentions on things like pof, match, okcupid, etc. and even if the intention is to hook up, usually the conversation starts out lighter... since the opposite just makes you look like a crazy exhibitionist or desperate.
     
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    No the goal of being on okcupid and the match are hookups.

    That's what all online dating is the reason why I know this is because for the millennia that humanity existed before online dating we didn't need it.
     
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    You are totally right. This law is going to run into some more controversial issues, when it comes to sites well known for casual sexual hook-ups.
    Because once women know they can potentially get thousands of dollars, they are going to start trying to sue men, even in situations where the woman put herself in a situation where she should totally not be surprised she is getting those pictures.
    The analogy would be like a woman stepping up on stage at a strip club in a skimpy dress, pretending to be surprised at the treatment she gets, and then trying to complain about sexual harassment.
     
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    Have switched to thinking this isn't really a real occurrence. It's the way some women behave when they are spurned so they project that onto men.

    I don't run into this online dating because I don't date women and I don't do online dating. But I have ran into it in public when I'm not interested in a lady and she doesn't get the hint and I had to tell her straight up. A lot of the times they go to check their breasts in my face.

    I normally don't say anything as I don't care.
     
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    So a guy sending an unsolicited dick pick should be legal and your neighbor whipping it out to show you should be illegal?
     
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    I used them years ago. Actually found my wife on match. Actually most of my relationships started virtual to avoid awkwardness at places like school and activities. Most of the women that I encountered were definitely not there for hookups, particularly match. Exceptions were rare and I was open to hookups on the way to finding somebody. Actually it kind of sucked because if a girl was having sex with me it usually meant she wanted to be with me and my threshold was lower for that. Maybe it varies by state and orientation. Tinder was more hookup than not I suppose, but even there a lot of women were primarily looking for relationships. Maybe if I were a dumb but hot guy my experience would have been different, lol. Not saying that's you, it's just not the norm for American women to go looking for hookups outside of college. Not judgement, just my experience.
     
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    Well you used them years ago. They are for hookups now things change.
    Not from what I have heard it's more up to date info.
    Or if you were single today.
    Then why do so many of them participate in hookup culture. The guys doing it aren't banging other guys.

    Do you think they're all just sharing one lady?
     
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    Sure it's possible things have changed, but your last statement gets to the gist of it. There are a smaller proportion of women who want to participate in this overtly, and so those that do rack up more partners than the men do, on average, even while being more selective. Though the anonymity of the internet does help them keep plausible deniability / avoid slut shaming and so there's more of it on the internet than, say, going out with friends. At least that's how it was back in the old days 10 years ago, lol.
     
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    If a guy is desperate to send a pic of his junk to someone, they should just ask clearly in a text if it is ok, then they will have a record of consent.

    better advice is to just not send a pic of your junk to anyone no matter how bad she wants it.
     
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    That rated a gen-u-ine LMAO!
     
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    I think your participating in wishful thinking.
    10 years ago as far as this is concerned was the cretaceous. Dating sites are just hook up sites that's the only purpose they serve.

    If you don't use them that way they're just playing with yourself
     
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    Well I guess I'll find out if I ever need to date again. I find your assessment unlikely, though. Things haven't fundamentally changed that much. People still date to find relationships. People still use the internet to find dates and to hook up, or both. It's easier and less awkward to use a site, for some people, than using their regular social connections - for both finding relationships and hooking up.
     
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    based on what? Who do you know that uses these who do you talk to?
    yeah I'm sure some people use them to date or try. But much of what you're saying is untrue here it's not easier it's certainly not less awkward. You should quit relying on an experience from 10 years ago and talk to people who use them now.

    Women have an easier time getting lucky in general but I tell guys not even bother with online dating. Unless you're absolutely gorgeous you're not going to get anything and if you are it's only going to be a few rides on that carousel because quality women don't use that.
     
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    Just logic at first but I did some digging. People still form relationships. It exists as a tool that can do that. Different sites have different mixes of people. So while it may be more frustrating to try to find a relationship on tinder (people still do it), there are alternatives for people who primarily want relationships such as match.

    Dating App Survey | Are They Just for Hook Ups? | SimpleTexting

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    That's your opinion. I'd rather not date people at my gym because I want to continue going to that gym after it doesn't work out, for example, or school, or work, or anywhere I go regularly.

    I actually don't think that's much better than 10-year-old personal experience. You'd want a study or at least a survey (as I showed above). I think that survey is from 2022, but not certain. Here's something a bit better than asking your friends, just the first recent thing I found: Match.com vs. Tinder (2022) Which Dating Site is Right? (healthyframework.com)

    Not true at all. I'm only "gorgeous" when I'm in shape and I wasn't 10 years ago and it worked fine. Honestly being a good writer helps a lot. Being interesting, unusual, funny, just anything other than boring, desperate, or weird. People with any experience on these sites know that pictures are only a rough idea of what they look like anyway. And there are people who put up pictures from 10 years and 50 pounds ago, as well as attractive people who put up really unflattering pictures, I think there was a site for helping to choose a better picture. So sure, there are disadvantages. Unlike blockbuster video, bars still exist for a reason.

    And I don't know about quality women. I found all types (except whatever type absolutely hates online dating I guess). Some were really amazing people, actually, including but not limited to my wife.
     
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    yeah probably for advertisements that are there to encourage people to create more traffic on dating website.
    well sure and I've said that several times now it's just predominantly that their hookup websites.
    but it is like searching for fresh food at a dump. You might find it but you're going to have to handle a lot of disgusting refuse to get to it.
    this is what people say they want it's not what people are really doing so I'll trust actions over words any day of the week.
    it's really all rather mood at this point you're talking about something that existed during the Cretaceous period.
    surveys are asking people what they say not what they do people lie.
    I don't give a crap about your survey. Again people lie not just to surveys not just to survey takers but to themselves. The posting the survey is just as useless as posting ice cubes opinion.
    how is that better I've got real experiences versus some advertisement.


    your experience from 10 years ago is irrelevant.

    Why is this so personal for you?
    no it's about how sexy you look in your pictures those people don't even read that garbage. Is it with me too much time invested for very little chance of reward.
    yeah people are pretty good at spotting deceptive photos now. There's hours upon hours of online tutorials teaching you all about it.
    Again that was 10 years ago technology moves at warp speed it might as well be a thousand years ago.

    There seems to be a lot of more genuine people on them in the time period you were using it because I was using them a little earlier than that. When they seem to be something viewed as a way to get dates for weirdos and losers. All of a sudden exploded and it became the way to meet people. And then it was devoured by hookup culture. The reality is you simply don't know. You rely on information probably funded by the hookup apps themselves to try and trick people into believing that they're not just hook up apps.

    I don't just have a few friends I have general consensus.

    You aren't going to change my mind I know better.
     
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    lol... it's personal because it's what worked for me and I like it. I actually enjoyed using them too. Um, I think you just have the opposite issue, a grudge against it based upon personal bad experiences. Surveys are way more valid than your personal experience and friends, but sure if you find a better survey let me know. I don't see any reason to lie on an anonymous survey unless you think they're lying to themselves.

    I saw the early evolution of online dating. Back when it was weird, and I was young, I was using AOL. Match didn't change much at all from last time to the previous time 8 years prior.

    It's definitely not just pictures, though it depends some on the site. A bad picture on tinder and you'll be swiped before they see any text you wrote. A good picture can make up for bad messages and profile though, particularly if you're talking to the 15% of women who are openly using it for hookups.

    They didn't address casual vs not, but there's this:

    A majority of online daters say it is very important to them that users include photos, the type of relationship they’re looking for in the profile | Pew Research Center

    Which showed that the 2nd most important thing for a profile was the type of relationship the person was looking for. If it was just for hooksup, this info would be assumed and not the 2nd most important thing next to the picture.
     
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    so it's nostalgia? Yeah they came about too late in my life for me to have any nostalgia for them at the time I use them they're a means to an end currently they seem to be that still it's just a different means and a different end.
    that's a swing and a mess I actually didn't have bad experiences on it it actually was quite helpful for me as when I started using them I was coming to terms with my sexuality and it helped I met some nice people had some fun and feel happy for the experience. Though I didn't meet my soulmate there.
    that's your opinion I don't share it it's not really based on personal experience, and not really on the experience of friends I seems to be general consensus. I guess you missed that the last time I said it.

    If there was a survey telling me that most people on the planet think the Earth is flat I wouldn't believe it you can create a survey to say anything you want they're not valid it's just opinion.
    except that it's definitely just pictures though. There's people that done the experiments that wrote some really nasty **** in their bios and nobody reads it.
    Yeah 10 years ago.
     
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    You can't just declare "consensus" based upon nothing, lol. Here in case you missed it from the ancient time of 2020:

    A majority of online daters say it is very important to them that users include photos, the type of relationship they’re looking for in the profile | Pew Research Center

    Given type of relationship is more important to include even than whether you have kids, it must be that there is a mixture of people looking for hookups and serious relationships, lol. And who actually cares? People looking for serious relationships who don't want hookups. Most people looking for hookups don't care that much if the person they do would rather have formed a real relationship, but they do care in the sense that they don't want to wait 3 dates for anything intimate to happen.
     
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    well if it's upon nothing why does it bother you so much if you really believed this it wouldn't be so triggering.
    people can say whatever they want actions speak louder than words.
    I have no trouble believing people say this because I have no trouble believing people lie about it they even lie to themselves.
    Again based on what people say not what they do.

    People lie you should go into a dating application knowing that everything you read and everything you see is absolutely not the truth.
     

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