Can I convince PF's resident 'Truthers' that AA77 hit the Pentagon? - Take Two

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  1. leftysergeant

    leftysergeant New Member

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    There is no forensic evidence of an explosive device, so the eye witnesses and accounts of fire fighters picking up the bodies and plane parts is all anyone has to work with.

    Found any rebar yet?
     
  2. NAB

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    haha. Look at the troll attempting to net lawyer.

    Protip: Before you create a lawyer persona on the net, you might want to create a persona that's familiar with the basics of grammar.
     
  3. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    of course not. what would you expect from an expert investigation?

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    yeh I noticed that

     
  4. leftysergeant

    leftysergeant New Member

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    Cute.

    Evidence of an explosive charge inside the Pentagon would be all over the lawn.

    Show it, starting with the rebar you said was there in front of the building.
     
  5. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    explosive "charge" huh?

    I would wager not. LMAO

    So where are those plane pics?
    Still waiting.
     
  6. NAB

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    Actually, you didn't. Unfortunately for anyone who's read your screed, it's blatantly obvious.
     
  7. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    maybe you got some nice evidentiary pics of a plane for us yah?

    I have one!

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    piloted by achmed!

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  8. LogicallyYours

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    1. Please provide the evidence or proof of someone or some group placing the hundreds bits of plane part in and around the Pentagon.
    2. Please provide the testimony of those who saw it happen and why isn't it on that same video?

    mystery_engine.jpg
     
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    911-flight77-debris.jpg
    mystery-debris-backshot-sm.jpg
    757-rim2_small.jpg
    engine_part_inside.jpg
    landing_gear.jpg
    debris_firetruck.jpg
    helipad_debris.jpg


    There are more but, these work. Now, how put those there and why isn't THAT captured on the same video?
     
  10. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    someone swept out the back of their pickup truck huh.

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    they forgot the wings that were sliced off by the poles.
     
  11. leftysergeant

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    It would have taken a standard moving van to hold all of the aircraft debris photographed at the scene. Somebody would have seen t being planted, especially the stuff that was photographed inside the office spaces.

    Sorry, but your lame gifs show that not even a firmly-anchored, non-breakaway wooden pole shears of wings.

    Got evidence of something else hitting the building?

    Got rebar?
     
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    So, now we have established those plane parts are evidence of Flight 77 crashing into the Pentagon, right? Or did you want to make another off-topic ignorant comment and not address the fact you have been provided what you asked for?

    1. Please provide the evidence or proof of someone or some group placing the hundreds bits of plane part in and around the Pentagon.
    2. Please provide the testimony of those who saw it happen and why isn't it on that same video?
     
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    Please explain why the hundreds of people who would have been present, either working in those offices or passing through did not blow the whistle on the massive crews it would have taken to plant those aircraft parts?

    Got a theory, supportable by what a 5-year-old would consider evidence that anything other than a 757 did the damage seen?

    Don't bother saying that it was a missile of some sort. Too many military veterans who are not senile have seen the photographic evidence.

    Got rebar yet?
     
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    It would have taken a standard moving van to hold all of the aircraft debris photographed at the scene.

    See how easy it is, Like I said someone simply swept out their pickup truck.


    Somebody would have seen t being planted, especially the stuff that was photographed inside the office spaces.

    Yeh the people who planted it! BWWHAHAHA


    Sorry, but your lame gifs show that not even a firmly-anchored, non-breakaway wooden pole shears of wings.

    again that is the wing tip flying through the air


    [​IMG]

    Yeh I know cant see any plane what so ever in those fuzzy 1 frame (*)(*)(*)(*)ty gif.


    Got evidence of something else hitting the building?

    Nope no plane,

    Got evidence anything hit?

    Plane?
     
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    Please explain why the hundreds of people who would have been present, either working in those offices or passing through did not blow the whistle on the massive crews it would have taken to plant those aircraft parts?

    Forensic evidence trumps witnesses


    Got a theory, supportable by what a 5-year-old would consider evidence that anything other than a 757 did the damage seen?

    Got shatterd wings? evidence already posted.


    Don't bother saying that it was a missile of some sort. Too many military veterans who are not senile have seen the photographic evidence.

    Who cares no evidence it was a plane


    Got rebar yet?

    Got a plane yet?
     
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    What??? the Forensic evidence like, all the plane parts? ...more than a van full...and some very heavy.

    The entire plane and its contents were destroyed via the impact and subsequent explosion. However.....



    We have posted/shown you as evidence and proof, parts of the plane found on the ground and in the Pentagon...as well as, eyewitness statement from regular people who saw what they saw was a passenger airliner. The evidence is overwhelming. You are simple being dishonest by claiming we haven't provided the evidence.

    Yup. Got honesty or credibility yet?
     
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    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    for whatever reason you fail to grasp that there is no EVIDENCE a plane IMPACTED the building.

    evidence of plane parts IS NOT EVIDENCE OF A PLANE IMPACT, its really not that hard to grasp.

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    in fact the evidence proves otherwise, nope no plane here.

    forensic evidence trumps witness testimony
     
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    For whatever reason, you're being completely obtuse, disingenuous and dishonest. Let's see, we know a plane was hijacked, seen to clip light pole, seen to crash into the Pentagon...where plane parts were found inside and outside the Pentagon...there exists a number of videos that appear to have something traveling at a high speed, resembling a plane, crash into the Pentagon at the same exact time the eyewitnesses saw the plane crash into the Pentagon.

    In what world does your position fill anything but a diaper?

    Actually, it is and especially, in light of all the other evidence and eyewitnesses....it most definitely is. And, highlighted by the FACT you cannot present ANY EVIDENCE or eyewitnesses who saw anything different.

    There exists no evidence to the contrary of what the eyewitnesses saw and what the evidence prove. You're pissing into the wind and telling everyone it's raining champagne.

    Facts trump Bull(*)(*)(*)(*). You lose....well, you were never actually in the game.
     
  19. Kokomojojo

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    Not at all, the evidence speaks for itself.

    You people simply insist that a plane impacted and the forensic evidence completely contradicts that theory.

    [​IMG]
     
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    The plane parts lying about the site trump any idiot's ear crickets. There are pieces of aircraft and marks consistent with the impact of an aircraft everywhere to be seen, in every photograph.

    There is exactly NO evidence of any other device having struck the building.
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    Got evidence of something else?

    Got rebar?
     
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    Prove it. I challenge you....I bet you can't even begin to make your case.
     
  22. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    wheres the plane?

    I dont see a plane?

    show us a plane

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    all I see is a trail of white smoke


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    I am really sorry man I dont see anything that looks like a plane.

    where is it?

    [​IMG]

    that is what a plane looks like
     
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    That's your entire argument?

    So, debris found inside and outside the Pentagon, with SN matching a Boeing 757 and paint marking matching American Airlines...personal effects matched to people known to have boarded AA Flight 77 is all not evidence unless someone can cough up a video of a jetliner crashing into the Pentagon?

    Is that your position?
     
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    events happen in chronoLOGICAL order within the time domain.

    I see no plane just white smoke, you know like a missile and that DOES fit rummys version.

    Until you can prove flt 77 actually impacted the rest is meaningless

    well not meaningless it does show that we need extremely tight laws placed on government operations
     
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    Provide Rumsfeld's quote and prove it was nothing more than a transcription error. Tell me how it makes any sense at all.

    Show me debris from a missile
     

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