CDC director says over 75% of covid deaths were people with “at least four comorbidities”

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  1. Richard The Last

    Richard The Last Well-Known Member

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    I try to follow everything. I read NIH, CDC, WebMD, NYTimes, The Blaze, The Guardian, Epoch Times, Christian Science Monitor, Mayo Clinic, I listen to Biden and his people, I listen to Trump and his people, I listen to folks in Congress, I listen to Joe Rogan, I listen to my governor and many other governors, I watch NBC, CBS, ABC, FOX, BBC, Al Jazeera, I read the news from Australia, Israel, UK, Sweden. I am retired and spend many hours on the internet reading and listening. Then based on what I have seen, heard, and read I make up my own mind as to what is happening in the world, what is good and bad, right and wrong.

    Nowhere have I found legitimate sources with legitimate information that indicate the Covid-19 vaccine:
     
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    ~ I suppose we all decide for ourselves what immunity is ... :wierdface:?

    Immunity: Protection from an infectious disease. If you are immune to a disease, you can be exposed to it without becoming infected.

    Vaccine: A product that stimulates a person’s immune system to produce immunity to a specific disease, protecting the person from that disease.
    ~​

    https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/02/dr-...e-may-not-provide-immunity-for-very-long.html

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    " Of course, one would wish to have high sterilizing antibody titers forever, this is not the case for these vaccines. But the clinical data clearly show that protection from severe disease remains high. ”

    https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2786818

    “ ... mild breakthrough infections in a small percentage of vaccine recipients have been described - which is not surprising as none of the registered vaccines will provide sterile immunity against infection. "

    https://www.theatlantic.com/science...izing-immunity-myth-covid-19-vaccines/620023/

    " COVID-19 vaccines were never going to give us sterilizing immunity... "

    CDC Director doublespeak

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bu...nated-people-do-not-carry-covid-19-2021-3?amp

    https://nypost.com/2021/04/02/cdc-walks-back-claim-that-vaccinated-people-cant-carry-covid/amp/

    https://www.eatthis.com/news-cdc-vaccinated-people-can-spread-covid/
     
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  3. Richard The Last

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    James, thanks for the links. In reading through the linked articles I saw a lot of information. Nowhere though did see anything that suggested the vaccine "gives no immunity". That was your claim in the earlier post, the vaccine "gives no immunity". I'm guessing you misspoke there.
     
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    ~ Perhaps so. I think "lasting immunity " was more correct as that it what people expect in a vaccine. Personally I am hoping the protein based vaccines { NovaVax } are more successful . They are also much cheaper to produce and store, making them more available to impoverished countries.

    https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-03025-0
     
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    China's vaccine apparently produces better long term immunity

    https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/resp.14191

    CoronaVac elicited significantly higher structural protein-specific CD4+ and CD8+ T-cell responses.
     
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    I believe the percentage of COVID deaths with comorbidities is much higher. The original CDC page displaying the figures/stats seems no longer to exist (not even in cached form). Here is the original URL:

    https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm#Comorbidities

    Luckily I made a screenshot of the entire page thinking it might one day be deleted. Here is the significant part, stating the percentage at close to 95%.

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    Here is another page on the CDC's site entitled
    Underlying Medical Conditions and Severe Illness Among 540,667 Adults Hospitalized With COVID-19, March 2020–March 2021
    The page no longer exists, but is still viewable (for now) in cached form.

    Original URL (not working):
    https://www.cdc.gov/pcd/issues/2021/21_0123.htm

    Cached:
    https://webcache.googleusercontent....es/2021/21_0123.htm+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

    Excerpt:
    In this cross-sectional study of 540,667 adult hospitalized patients with COVID-19, 94.9% had at least 1 underlying medical condition. Hypertension and disorders of lipid metabolism were the most frequent, whereas obesity, diabetes with complication, anxiety disorders, and the total number of conditions were the strongest risk factors for severe COVID-19 illness.
     
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    CDC director says over 75% of covid deaths were people with “at least four comorbidities”

    I have repeated often that covid deaths and deaths occuring while testing positive for covid are not the same thing. If covid were deadly, it would kill people randomly. Instead it appears to work against the immune system relative to co-morbidities more than other forms of flu. The people who took a bat virus and developed it into something that would pass easily from human to human, also caused this ability whether intentional or not. Luckily mother nature has caused the virus to evolve into more transmissable and vaccine resistant but less harmful strains.
     
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    It seems some of those who've taken the shots now have the functional equivalent of AIDS.

    Yes, the bio weapon is working as designed.
     
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    Nonsense, what batshit website convinced you of this? Don't you people believe AIDS was made up!

    It is a vaccine and it is working as designed. Your misinformation is pathetic.
     
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    To be more accurate, the vaccines worked well against the original strain of covid for which they were developed. In the meantime the virus has mutated many times and has resulted in a current strain that is more contagious, more resistant to the vaccines but far less dangerous. It is a natural course of evolution for a corona virus. The vaccines have been obsolete for a while but are less necessary given the relative triviality of getting infected with the current strain. Everyone will contract covid over time just as everyone has contracted the common cold. It is manageable. No need to join the hysteria.
     
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    Sooner or later, everyone in America will contact COVID. The only reason te White House and pharmaceuticals are up in arms is the $$$ involved.
     
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    911, they told, even coerced people to go back up in the towers too!
     
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    and of course what it is not saying is how many people with 4 comorbidities or more were factually 'saved'!

    So my question is: How many lives of people with 4 or more comorbidities (those with one foot already in the grave) did this 'miracle' vaccine really SAVE?

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    Florida say through the BS and did not follow the CDC/govt/democrats "guidance". And Florida did great, while those states that followed the "guidance" did poorly.
     
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    It was the trump admins “guidance”
    Sounds like another failure of the Trump admin. Sad!
     
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    How many who died on 911 had comorbitities? We shouldn’t count those deaths right?
     
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    Yes it was a failure of Trump because he did not stop the Fauci madness in June 2020 when the data showed Covid was no worse than the flu.

    Trump had a number of failures and that was one the worst.
     
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    When’s the last time the flu killed 3k people a day here?
     
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    Seriously?

    The whole Covid $cam death numbers are a complete FARCE.

    "Pa. removes more than 200 deaths from official coronavirus count as questions mount about reporting process, data accuracy"

    Any injection associated with covid viron lie is the equivalent of one playing Russian Roulette with a poison that's already had 1.6 millions jabs rejected (from one of the G-7 governments) for vials having "metallic" like substances.
     
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    I can imagine how difficult this can be for someone who cant connect simple dots.
    ok you see when you are told to do something that can or will result in your death or injury that is the guv working AGAINST YOU not for you. Crystal?
     
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    I agree, people saying Covid is just the flu clearly aren’t on my side
     
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    Not enough. Never enough.

    Thanks for caring, though.
     
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    nice dodge! so what next that you will support a ressurection vaccine?
    Try exercise and good health habits.
     
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    Which covid jab contains attenuated or inactivated sars-cov-2 virus?
     
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