Celine Dion admits to neurological conditions

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  1. Eleuthera

    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    Neither she nor her doctors will admit that the shot played any role, though her symptoms began shortly after taking the shots.

    Is this denial on her part?
     
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    Wow. Your anti-vax obsession now has you fretting over Celine Dion? Man get a grip. What makes your thread so absolutely irresponsible is the fact that the neurological disorder Dion has been diagnosed with has existed long before any vaccines let alone Covid 19 and you have zero evidence Covid 19 vaccines create it.

    You at this point project your bias assumptions on any event or news item. Good God man go find out what SPS is and how it existed long before Covid 19. Next you will tell us Parkinson's, Muscular Dystrophy, ALS, Multiple Sclerosis, Lupus, Arthritis, Psoriasis, Asthma, all are created by Covid 19 because like SPS they have similar symptoms and are also auto-immune disorders.

    Enough. You engage in the same rigid, stereotypical negative assumptions about Covid 19 vaccines and those who created them as any other bigot does about the scapegoat they target and you won't let it go.
     
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    People get diseases and have new health conditions all the time. Most Americans have taken the vaccines. We can't correlate every health condition as being a result of taking the vaccine without evidence.
     
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    Agreed. SPS by the way was first diagnosed as that name of syndrome in 1956. Before that it probably would have been misdiagnosed as Parkinson's disease or arthritis.
     
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    I had a Dr. Pepper this morning. I stubbed my toe later in the day. Does that mean that the DP made me stub my toe? Would that be worthy of a thread?
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    Some don't, but those who've been paying attention to the Pfizer documents ordered released by a court early this year know that NEUROLOGICAL CONDITIONS were referenced in those documents. That is, Pfizer knew from its limited tests on individuals that NEUROLOGICAL CONDITIONS were some of the many harms caused by the clot shots.

    Celine took her shots like a good girl and soon became disabled, spastic and unable to sing anymore. Thousands of other such reactions have been described in VAERS.

    Only humans in denial and pharma propagandists are "unable" to see the connections.
     
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    This is crazy. She and her doctors deny the shot played any risk but some rando guy on the internet that has never met her blames covid vax. Do you even know what shot she took? I recently had dental surgery, should I attribute that to the covid shot too?
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    No, I recently had dental surgery too, and I have not taken the shot.

    Anecdotally, I know several surviving family members of deceased friends in these last 2 years who are in deep denial about the harms caused by the shots. Those in denial have taken the shots and suffered no apparent harm, even though their father took the shot and stroked out 3 months later.

    Humans in denial of reality are a dime a dozen. Celine Dion is one of them. Her doctors are in thrall to Pharma, CDC and the rest.
     
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    coincidence is not causation
     
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    Dion is known to have liberal political leanings. It is GA--HAWD who is visiting this horrible but deserved retribution on her.

    And the vaccine of course. If she had drank the Clorox while swallowing some UV tubes, like my late uncle, she might be alive today. (oh, she is? oh uh...speedy recovery then, here, have some horse pills)
     
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    If are able to understand that then why not the fact that neurological conditions existed before the covid vax and people that have never taken the the vaccine will also develop neurological conditions. You can see the fallacy of making assumptions based on no more information than she took the vaccine and later had a neurological condition. I mean using your logic what else did she do leading up to her condition?
     
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    Lol if you want. I am sitting with my dogs and it is to cold to go out. Finally someone other than me who admits they drink Dr. Pepper. I am not supposed to. I have diabetes 2 but I like it. I have one small can like once a month, oy gevalt shoot me. I guess I will get Covid 19 from it.

    Just so you know the old cherry coke was the go to drink with smoked meat sandwitches. The real ones on rye. I am from Montreal. We rival if not surpassed New York with smoked meat although I know one guy outside Toronto who does it natural. No one does it natural anymore in Montreal damn it. You have to put the briscuit in a wood barrel with the brine and **** and let it sit for a month until it turns. Its supposed to be brown and coated in black on the outside. You need the fat but you can cut it off later.

    You are not supposed to eat smoked meat without a kosher dill pickle and a Dr. Pepper and regular mustard. None of that dainty French mustard nonsense. Dr. Pepper is ok. Cherry coke from the fountain is hard to find anymore.
     
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    You are sick. I love it. This thread is silly and Eur needs to lighten up and laugh. Wow.

    You know Celine is from my original province. She has been rumoured to have had an eating disorder. I suppose that was caused by Covid 19 as well. She is Canadian and she is a Montreal Canadiens fan so I have to stand by her. If I saw her I would give her a chocolate bar.
     
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    Denial does not admit causation. Truth does not mind being questioned. A lie does not like being questioned.

    Adverse events mentioned in Pharma literature are recorded in VAERS, and neurological events are common.

    Now it appears that Grant Wahl, once proud of his shots record, has succumbed suddenly at 40 something years. No autopsy.
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    My conclusions are based upon the knowledge that the shots cause harm, that they contain graphene oxide, that they grossly change the appearance of blood under a microscope, and that many doctors like Peter McCullough have recommended that they be ended immediately.

    Oh yes, and my conclusions are based upon common sense and knowledge of how this event was planned years ago. Common Sense sir, give it a try. The shots are poison.
     
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    Common sense should tell you are too far removed from this case to make any reasonable diagnoses. I could almost understand if you have some medical information specific to Celine that backs this up but you are only working with the fact she has a condition and took a shot and are connecting the two. You cited Pfizer released document which REFERENCED neurological conditions which sounds vague enough on it own BUT do we even know if Celine took Pfizer? Maybe she took Moderna? She is Canadian so maybe she took Astrazeneca?

    You are making an armchair diagnoses about a real person's medical condition and spreading your suspicions on the internet. Why not let doctors and medical professionals who have the opportunity to examine her make that determination rather than some anonymous rando guy posting on the net.
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    Just like you, I am a member of the general public, and I'm entitled to judge Celine's public statement as much as you are.

    The difference between you and me is that I'm an independent thinker and informed individual about the dangers of the shots.

    From your posts it appears you prefer to place great faith in the statements of career criminals like Anthony Fauci and the rest of the crooks who brought the Plandemic.

    I've always been a big fan of Celine's. I'm glad she was not killed by the shots like 15 of my friends and acquaintances have been, but the world will miss her music.
     
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    I rarely post in covid threads so I am impressed you know my thought process. Like you I am a fan and this thread caught my attention because it was about Celine not because of covid. My view on the vax has always been simple. It is your choice. Take it if you want, don't if you don't want too. I was always against government mandates but supported the right of private business to do so.

    I find it amazing that you know 15 friends the died after the covid shot. 99% of the people I know including friends, family and co-workers have taken the shot and none have died. We have a big family Christmas dinner coming up with about 25 invited guess all are vaccinated. No family members have died from covid or taking the shot. I manage a large department with lots of reports and reports having reports all are vaccinated and no one died.

    I am curious when you say 15 friends of yours died, what percentage of friends does this represent. Most people probably only have about 15 close friends so your percentage seems very high. Is it possible your friends are very old already? I must admit it would be very troubling if 15 of your friends aged 20-40 dropped dead after the covid shot.
     
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    Thanks for a civil response.

    I've lived in the same 4 county area for most of my life, and I'm 75. So 15 out of all my friends and acquaintances is a very low number. You're right, most people, the majority that have taken the shots show no visible signs, but they have not (I presume) ever checked a slide of their blood under a microscope, and that includes my only sister(a nurse) and 2 brothers. Further, of the 15, nobody has had an autopsy performed, and those surviving family members who I know closely have ALL been in denial about there being any connection at all to the shots.

    OTOH, the vast majority of close friends and family who have taken it, are adamant that they will never take another shot. Many friends who have taken it HAVE had problems, but have not died. Neurological and cardiac events are most common. I know 3 previously healthy males who now wear pace makers because of the cardiac issues.

    You are absolutely right that it is an individual choice to take it or not BUT the law demands informed consent, and nobody I know participated in that process. Nobody I know was informed of the dangers of the shots, and they were too damn scared and distracted to understand it's not a vaccine and was issued under EUA. All were driven by fear of a virus with a 99% survival rate. Humans behave like lemmings quite often.

    The 15 were all middle aged, with the fastest death at 4 hours after injection, the average being about 3-6 months with one woman dying at a week after. I was just told by a friend(he took the shot last year with no apparent side effects) last week that his 18 year old grandson took the shot and is now wearing a pacemaker.

    Celine is just one more person whose data never made it into VAERS, but whose experience is typical of those who were entered into VAERS.
     
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    What are you talking about?
     
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    Things you refuse to understand.
     
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    I must admit those cases sound highly suspicious. Why were no autopsies performed on the death of middle age people? Did they know the cause of death? Were any causes like accidents or drug overdoses? Why is the family not making the connection to the covid shot? Are they satisfied with the reasons the doctors gave them?

    TBH if I were you I would not suspect the vax but look for some other common factor. The reason I would rule out the vax are your numbers are tremendous outliers. If you were to poll people here and ask how many people do you know that was middle aged and died after a covid shot, my guess it the average would be very close to zero to 1 percent. To be honest I only know 2 people that have ever died before 60 and one was from an biking accident and the other from an overdose, both were before covid. To have 15 in a close circle of friends and in a short period of time is really suspicious. The mystery fan in me makes me say you should broaden your search because if it was vaccine related more people would have experiences closer to yours not closer to mine.
     
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    If you won't explain it then it has no validity whatsoever.
     
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    Few autopsies are routinely performed in the US. One of the surviving family members told me that the family/estate would have to pay for it here in Florida.

    Apparently autopsies are done more routinely in Germany, and those that have been done on those who've taken the shots have shown widespread spike protein infestation, like the blood shows under the microscope.

    Also, embalmers and funeral directors have discovered grotesque looking objects in the veins and arteries of those injected.

    I know that the serum injected contains graphene oxide, and that cannot be good for humans. I also know that Pfizer found widespread cases of harmful side effects AND COVERED THAT UP. Thankfully there was one good judge who ordered Pfizer to release its data. Pfizer has pleaded guilty to criminal medical fraud a number of times, and these clot shots are another example of medical fraud and worse.

    You can pretend that Pfizer, Fauci and your government would not lie to you, but I cannot do that.
     
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    I learned years ago that one can lead a horse to water, but one cannot make the horse drink. So too, one can lead a man to knowledge, but one cannot make him think.

    If you were actually curious about the matter you would already know.
     

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