Chris Mathews apologizes on behalf of white people....

Hence the reason Progressives are changing the history books.

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What guessing? Just hit the link:

https://www.google.com/search?q=chr...fficial&client=firefox-a&channel=np&source=hp

 

Says the poster with the Union Jack as his country of origin? That's rich.

 

You might have broken the treaties, but both sides of my family emigrated here from Ireland and Sweden in 1903 and 1905, respectively.

 

Every nation that became a nation, did so by eradicating the people who were there before them. It's not a recent invention. It started when the first man killed another man and stole his cave or woman.

 

I don't deny it whatsoever. It's the condition known as liberalism. The party of tolerance is anything but. Shame on the Democratic Party. Double shame on black people for not realizing that the Democratic Party isn't looking out for them.

 

Sorry but I agree with Oldyoungin on this one.

"My family came to America to escape Nazi Germany. I have nothing to apologize for to black people in our country. How long can the excuse of something that ended 130+ years ago and not a single survivor exist."

BTW I am Part Chipewa. So I have to disagree with you on your statement "Similar to the rape of the American Indians then?" ....... why should Oldyoungin or anyone else have to apologize for 'that' again?

 

Actually the Mescalero Apache settled the area of present-day El Paso to Fort Stockton. The Lipan Apache ranged from Texas to Colorado.

 

You mean besides the Lakota Indians in 2007?

http://scienceblogs.com/mikethemadbiologist/2007/12/29/lakota-indians-unilaterally-br/

 

Good Lord! First off, Zimmerman is Hispanic. Secondly, "white" people did nothing wrong in this case. The jury found him not guilty based on all the evidence. It's done; get over it, Chris!

 

Well, at least, you admitted that you are part of the problem. That is a good step forward. I hope you continue to make progress.

 

Oh great, another self identified native american white person. Oh boy, let the guilt trip commence.

You may want to read and comprehend the entire discussion with Oldyoungin.

 

Houmas Indian here.

 

Is withdrawing from a treaty actually breaking the treaty?

 

He doesn't speak for me.

 

Thank you for posting that. My entire family immigrated LEGALLY through Ellis Island between 1900 and 1910.

African tribes were generally in a perpetual war with each other over territory, hunting grounds and other resources. When the warriors did battle one tribe (the one winning the battle) usually captured warriors from the opposing tribe. They would make slave labor out of the other tribes captives, the ones that weren't needed were typically put to death. When the slave traders showed up, the tribes stopped killing the excess captives and started trading them for things like blankets, wax candles, oil lamps and the oil to run them, fire water, pre made bows and arrows and food.

Think for a second, most slave ships carried a crew of 50 or less. African tribes of the time typically numbered from several hundred to several thousand, there was safety in numbers. The slave ship crews were armed with one shot flintlock pistols, one or two per man. A good man with one of these pistols could fire three rounds a MINUTE , the procedure to reload them is slow. I'm sure there were cannons and rifles aboard the ship. Assuming they would leave 10 crew to protect the ship from pirates. 40 guys with single shot pistols would be quickly overwhelmed by several hundred battle experienced with spears, clubs and knives. So I highly doubt they were able to steal the tribe members for long before the warriors would be waiting to let 'em have it. If they want to be angry with anyone they need to start with their ancestors who SOLD them to the slave traders.

Question for Libs: Who is more responsible and should go to jail the drug user or the drug seller?

 

You very well could be right, I learned it in texas history in 6th grade and that was a quite a while ago.

But what I took away was that Indian tribes did to Eachother exactly what we did to them.

And what human beings have been doing to each other since the dawn of time

But white folks are the best at it and thus get the blame

 

If it's against the law, both are equally culpable. Not a lot of grey area between 'Illegal' and 'Legal'.

 

I would call that theft. When you place a people in concentration camps and take their land.

There are ways to acquire things and there are ways to acquire things. You can murder somebody to take their land or you can invade and outbreed, the latter is not something europeans will ever be able to do because, nature intended them to be warlike. Don't assume all cultures are like yours.

 

South Americans built pyramids and had vast gold reserves.

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Like I said before. Dont ever let me see you condemning bank robbers or carjackers. Alpha males you see, thats what they do.

 

Im not proud of it, dont worry your cotton socks. So please by all means, lay bare all of you grievances

 

Okay.

Chris Matthews is in no position to apologize for an entire people who, quite frankly, have made it clear that (one way or another) there is no single voice for an entire demographic... and we've seen as much when it comes to recent protests. There are white people that think this whole ordeal is an outrage and there are others that believe justice was rightfully served. Easy stuff.

Somehow though, we cannot take that same approach with African Americans. I'd rather not call it outright racism... it seems more fitting to instead label it a "culture of suspicion". It's formed on stereotypes, generalizations, comically limited experiences, jaded media misrepresentation, and (most importantly) the laziest interpretations of statistical analysis. It's this culture of suspicion that leads people like Richard Cohen to ironically also attempt to speak for all white people while trying to justify profiling:

I don’t like what George Zimmerman did, and I hate that Trayvon Martin is dead. But I also can understand why Zimmerman was suspicious and why he thought Martin was wearing a uniform we all recognize.
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"We all recognize"... because every black man that seeks to wear a hoody (even in rainy weather) should accept the fact that it's a reasonable uniform of suspicion. Never mind that this doesn't apply to any other race... it should just be accepted. If you agree with his statements, you've lost any ground to claim racial intolerance and/or inequality is a figment of the black man's imagination. You're endorsing the theory. By no measure, should 0.01% of blacks that decide to murder someone speak for me, or my children... in the same way that a racist segment of a tea party should speak for it's entire premise/message . As stated before, some African Americans do themselves no favors by giving individuals (in their immediate surrounding) every reason to suspect ill will with words & actions that fit the suspicion, but there needs to be a reasonable cut off... and it should start somewhere around being able to walk down the street with the garments of my choice without being thought a criminal. No American should ever have to contemplate that before going out into public.

 

You are right. Chris cannot speak for all of us but his comment has sparked this discussion. So, in my mind, his mistake worked.

Bravo. That is the real problem that I have been trying to explain. Thank you.​

 

The real libs never let truth get in the way of a good accusation.

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So is Obama, whenever Matthews is around.

 

In the words of Hillary: "What difference does it make?"

If he pretends to speak for an entire race, then he is out of line.
Doesn't matter what it's for.

 

MSNBC is an embarrassment.