Christian Values Lead to Happier Marriages

Our medical establishment in the US has traditionally recommended circumsision for hygenic reasons. It's not strictly a religious practice. Female genital mutilation has NEVER been recommended for hygenic reasons.

 

If someone had given me a choice, I probably would have preferred to keep the inside of my foreskin clean rather than cut it off.


Sometimes I cry myself to sleep at night thinking about the pain I endured. Ok just kidding.

I think I heard that having a foreskin reduces the chances of getting infected by HIV among people living in Africa.

 

Who are you to judge that they are not something they claim to be?

Have you done the dna analysis?

Have you done a serious examination of their bodies - requiring serious medical training.

Have you done analysis on the various glands that exist in human bodies and implement aspects of gender and sexuality?

Are you capable of analyzing their brain structure in enough detail to know what "should be" attractive to them in close human relationships?

Do you have detailed knowledge of their health history from birth to date, noting issues such as the sexual assignment surgeries that doctors have performed on babies that present with nonstandard genetalia?


For you to declare what someone else IS, in that kind of intimate way just doesn't cut it.

 

while it's true, most Christians do not wait to have sex until married

high body count lessens the odd of a "forever" marriage

 

just ignore the bad stuff in the bible\quran\etc


http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Deuteronomy 22:28-29&version=NIV

 

so if a boy had boobs, would you want him to wait to his late 20's to get surgery?

what about circumcision, should they wait as well?

 

It’s all just too complicated to figure out. You have to be an expert.

 

just remember, the bible also supports LGBT marriage, vs to burn in passion - one should only marry per the bible if they can not control themselves

WWJD.... stay unmarried

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1 Corinthians 7:8-9&version=NIV

"
8 Now to the unmarried and the widows I say: It is good for them to stay unmarried, as I am.
9 But if they cannot control themselves, they should marry, for it is better to marry than to burn with passion.
"

 

What I want for the boy is irrelevant. Circumcision seems pretty unnecessary to me.

What I would hope is that the boy learns to accept himself and love himself as he is. Oh sure that doesn’t mean just flopping down and doing nothing of course. It’s important to live and be healthy, to feel good about your body and comfortable in your own skin. Exercise, eat right, educate yourself. I want that for everyone. I just don’t necessarily agree that surgery is the solution. From my experiences with the whole transgender thing, it’s more about accepting yourself for who you are not trying to surgically alter yourself to fit some unachievable ideal. It goes for others too. The girl who has to get her lips puffed and her boobs enhanced and her butt enhanced etc.

But you know what? If that’s what they want to do, I’m not here to stop it. I just think that it sounds like an unhappy existence and a good lesson on acceptance is what might just benefit that person. The suicide rates bear that out.

 

agree, but that applies to heterosexuals as well, your referring to elective surgery to alter one's appearance

and I agree, it's their choice, good or bad, they are the ones that have to live with it

suicide rates seem to be mostly due to bullying in grade school - the bullying often drives people to get the elective surgeries, heterosexual or otherwise

 

I believe Modern leftists would have heard of the adage "Ignorance Is Bliss" ? if not remiss ?

Yup.. blissfull ignorance there Mary. "Family Research Council" Har har har

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and with that we get into the hardcore bliss --- God's plan for sexuality ? you mean when Lot's daughters Shagged the Old Man ? All the Patriarchs had concubines .. and the great Temples of YHWH has both male and female temple prostitues.

Where do i sign up for that mate ? well .. you can have the male temple prostitute.. no use for that one I have .. oh and no daughter shagging for me .. but whats not to like about the rest ?

 

No just principles that are purely religious as law. Oh wait, we already did that. For all the good it's done.

 

SO you're against a girl who has developed 36DD breasts by age 14 getting breast reduction surgery? Or little Johnny taking insulin for his diabetes?

 

This is the main problem with opponents. They keep conflating the some into the all and then want to ban the actual all.

 

The suicide rate drops some 40% after transition. And part of the reason the suicide rate is so high, before and with the remaining group after is not the transgenderism/GD itself, but the harassment and bullying. You are right, acceptance is the solution, but opponents don't want to be accepting.

 

It's still mutilation of the genitals, and, as another poster put it, "altering their biology through ... surgery", not to mention that it is based purely on a religious principle, and most of the world does fine without it being done.

 

Seems to be a religious right maxim, since they want to ignore any science they don't agree with. It's been that way every since someone once said the sun, not the earth, was the center of the solar system.

 

Same Scat - different pile .. but, why figure this out you have not ?

 

Happiness is just a temporary blip and only meets your definition for the during of said blip.

 

You speak for yourself and no one else. I feel sorry for you.

 

You ever see the movie, "The Family Man," a wonderful movie [2000] with Nicolas Cage and Tea Leoni depicting the choice of seeking the superficial pleasures of life v. the deeper commitment to wife and family?

Making that type of commitment [to family] requires a culture that can provide the young man or women with reasons to seek the proper path [to long term personal contentment and social prosperity] despite the incredibly [but vacuous] temptations of adolescence, leaving the majority chasing after 'this or that' in an attempt to fill the void.

There are no greater gifts [to society] than are happy marriages, as this should be the main focus of a healthy society.

 

Of course I speak for myself. Who else would I be speaking for?...and you have no need to feel sorry for me as this emotion is ALWAYS about self.

This is where people assume that not only do they know another to the point where they can "feel sorry," but that they accurately understood the context and meaning of my words [which you did not].

If you must feel sorry for somebody, make it for your self, for you have assumed the roles of judge, jury and executioner without cause.

 

I also believe some people are not emotionally compatible with modern civilization. Its unfortunate, but it makes evolutionary sense. Prior to civilization, many of the instincts that drive behavior that undermine the survival of civilization were necessary for the survival of the hunter-gatherer, from whom we were gifted the bulk of our genetic heritage.

 

That's his whole point. Everyone can only speak for themselves and no one can define what makes another's happiness.

 

The experts in human biology DO have answers to these questions.

And, as a society, the only possible response is to recognize that humans (and all life forms) do not come in cookie cutter form.