CNN Medical Analyst Admits After Two Years There's Been 'Overcounting' of COVID Deaths

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  1. Eleuthera

    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    In terms of public health it does.
     
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    Has your president and governor ended the COVID emergency orders yet?
     
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    Then there are sources that figure covid caused deaths are undercounted:

    The study, published on 10 March in The Lancet, says that the true number of lives lost to the pandemic by 31 December 2021 was close to 18 million. That far outstrips the 5.9 million deaths that the study says were reported to various official sources for the same period. The difference is down to significant undercounts in official statistics, owing to delayed and incomplete reporting and a lack of data in dozens of countries.

    The loss of life “is much higher than simply assessed by reported COVID-19 deaths in most countries”, says study co-author Haidong Wang, a demographer and population-health expert at the Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation (IHME) in Seattle, Washington. “Understanding the true death toll from the pandemic is vital for effective public health decision-making.”

    https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-022-00708-0
    You and the other medical experts. :roll: :roll:
     
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    A million Americans died from covid and this is your level of concern for them?
    Flyover red states are poorer than blue states.
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    https://smartasset.com/data-studies/states-most-dependent-on-the-federal-government-2022
    Blue states will be fine if red states quit leeching off them.
     
  5. LangleyMan

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    Your evidence is what?
     
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    The thing your funny little claim fails to address is the NIMBY-ism of the blue states.

    It isn't that the red states are dependent on the federal government. It is that the federal government needs locations to do their work and blue states don't want it to happen there. This isn't just true of military bases as an example. It is also true of energy production, oil refining and so on.

    You make it sound like a bad thing when in fact it is a good thing. Activity needs to happen at some level in some places. Claiming you're a wonderful place because you make (made) software and movies while other places grew food, refined and pumped oil, had military bases and so on doesn't make one DEPENDENT. In fact it is blue cities that would fall apart in days without all the exterior support.

    Now stop deflecting and address the proper thread topic.... COVID DEATHS being labeled excessively to gain authoritarian control.
     
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    Yah, sure—"they" want to control you.

    Get a clue.

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    You have evidence California, Oregon and Washington aren't taking their share of things red states want done? Most of our trade with Asia goes through West Coast ports. We have military bases up and down the coast.
    You get back more in government services than you pay in personal and business taxes.
    Blue states make a lot more than movies and software.
    You made the erroneous claim (see above).
    This is half-baked, paranoid nonsense,
     
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    I agree completely. COVID deaths are being massively over-reported.
     
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    And in 2020, an excess of 500,000 death certificates were fabricated;

    First Name; Joe or Jane
    Last Name; Smith
    Underlying cause of death; Mainly Covid
     
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    Like we didn't know that, already.
     
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    The better evidence is that they're understated.
     
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    What I know would contradict thousands of hearsays, and mainly Covid related.
     
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    If one believes that an excess of 500,000 death certificates were fabricated in 2020, and State’s Health are all managed by Liberals, then obviously, Covid related deaths were massively over-counted/over-reported.
     
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    try to close that military base or government facility to see how dependent the locals are on that money.
     
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    Then what was the cause of all the excess deaths in 2020 and 2021?
    If not covid?
     
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    An obvious conspiracy to scare people and keep them under state control. :) :)
     
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    Well they are until you need to prove the vaccines are working and then they flip the reasoning.

    That's the point though. It's a trade-off. It isn't a dependency. The blue states simply do not want energy generated in their backyard, or the land they control used for certain things. They believe they are above such matters.

    Oh and COVID deaths are still massively overstated.
     
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    Seems like a statement from China to downplay COVID.
     
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    How many topics will it take for the right to understand the concept of excess death counts? It's been years and they still don't get it.
     
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    It's understood. Right now the excess deaths are coming from "suddenly dying" young people. That is part of why CNN is trying to downplay the number of deaths previously assigned to COVID. They're trying to retroactively lower the prior death count since it is now rising but from the vaccine.
     
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    Your post clearly shows you don't understand. The excess death counts were rising well before the vaccines were available. Blaming the vaccines for excess death counts that precede the vaccine is an argument dumber than a sack full of cross-eyed hammers.
     
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    How would a president implement shutdowns in states?
     
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    Such a silly reply.

    I never claimed the "excess deaths" prior to the vaccines were caused by vaccines. They were caused by the lockdowns. Stop being so silly.
     
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    I'm trying so hard to assume this isn't parody. Please do more homework -- though I have yet to have any vaccine conspiracy theorists agree to do so.
     

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